RazzleDazzleRB
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A little info on whether it is PnC or action adventure:
https://twitter.com/mattkorba/status/541115723725012992
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King's Quest (The Odd Gentlemen/Sierra) coming Fall 2015 - PS3/PS4/Xbox One/360/PC
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A little info on whether it is PnC or action adventure:
https://twitter.com/mattkorba/status/541115723725012992
SDCowboy
Member
Phew! Makes me wish I could still boot up one of the greatest games ever...KQ6. Aw yeah.
ElodieTicotoune
Banned
I am totally not liking the new way its taken. The main guy looks like a dork.
I hate the 3D look I would rather it be hand drawn like the way they redid the NEW Monkey Island.
I hated it with a PASSION when Monkey Island went 3d ish and Sam and Max so MUCH that I refused to play them.
Sorry this is a no go for me and i was SOOOOO happy at this news but not anymore.
And how dare he take his hat off. Roberta almost looked like she was going to cry.
I hate the 3D look I would rather it be hand drawn like the way they redid the NEW Monkey Island.
I hated it with a PASSION when Monkey Island went 3d ish and Sam and Max so MUCH that I refused to play them.
Sorry this is a no go for me and i was SOOOOO happy at this news but not anymore.
And how dare he take his hat off. Roberta almost looked like she was going to cry.
that's a relief, thanks for posting this
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
I agree that Graham looked a little too clumsy and goofy, not serious enough. It was almost like Guybrush meets Graham
Bomber Bob
Banned
looks something telltale would do
Salz01
Member
I echo this sentiment that it should have been made like the monkey island remake on ps3. That still holds up well. What they are trying to do here makes everything look clunky. But it's a year away so hopefully it will look better.
SDCowboy
Member
Six. Period. Make sure you have the manual though because I recall it was required for some puzzles.
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
I think the way I currently feel about the game is that this looks like a game I would love to play regardless, but I'm just nervous about the KQ name attached to it. That comes with a lot of expectations and responsibilities to live up to. I wish Roberta could have been more involved in coming up with ideas for the game. She is an essential ingredient in a KQ game. I do have some faith since the developer stated that KQ was his favorite game series, so I am sure he wants to get it right. It's going to be interesting to see how this game ends up turning out.
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
Monkey island + Kings Quest + Dragon's Lair
Go to GOG, and buy the IV, V, and VI collection. I enjoyed I, II and III, but they are pretty different beasts. I'd consider everything starting V to really be amazing, in particular V, VI, and to some extent VII (which I replayed recently).
If you enjoyed those 3, then I'd go back and play the first ones. Continuity wise, they do all string together, but the connection isn't firm, so you and enjoy all of them without knowing very much backstory about the previous games.
Edit: I think Graham looks fine in the trailer. Personality wise, he was always kind of a guy who bumbled around and stumbled into the right things, with more than a few falls in the process. The visual characteristics fits his persona.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
I agree with the poster. The dragon looked pretty bad because the shadows didn't do the model justice.
so not PnC
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
I think this is one of the games that needs to be seen in motion and screenshots don't do it justice.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
The dragon doesn't look any better in motion in the youtube clip.
Obviously that's a jpeg of a youtube clip so it isn't going to look good but that's one of the better shots of the dragon.
Mad Season
Banned
count me in, King Graham!
Haha exactly. "The essence of point and click with new feeling" reads like a shallow non-answer. I didn't expect a KQ financed by Activision to be a pure PnC for a variety of reasons, but I was kind of interested to see what the team is doing regardless. The trailer was probably an adventure purist's worst nightmare.
I guess the pointing and clicking will come in the form of QTEs...
ratcliffja
Member
I'm a huge point and click adventure fan and I thought the trailer looked excellent. I'm really excited for the game and hope the new gameplay stays true to the original.
thanks for killing my last shreds of hope for this game! (><)
Perfect opportunity to let you guys know there is a free fan remade of the first 3 Kings Quest games by AGD Interactive from their website. Yep there is even a Quest for Glory 2 remake.
http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/games.html
- PnC Controls
- Added story and fleshed-out characters
- Changes to puzzles
- Enhanced artwork and graphics to be more like Kings Quest 5 onwards
- Remastered music
- Added ambiance
Whoa
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
because of the stupid pr answer
I don't have a problem with using a controller for this game.
I'm kinda glad its not point and click. I grew up playing and loving King's Quest, but point+click is a little too niche nowadays. I wouldn't mind it, but I think the game will generally see a bigger audience with a more accessible gameplay style.
So long as its a great game on its own merits, I'm ok with it.
So long as its a great game on its own merits, I'm ok with it.
People bumming out about "not PnC" did not play 1, 2, 3, or 4, at least in their original forms.
OG King's Quest involved walking around the screen with the arrow keys and then typing in the command at the right location.
If you move Graham directly with the analog stick and then use buttons to do stuff this is in fact a return to form. KQ 1 and 2, at least, had "jump," "swim," and "duck" keybindings.
OG King's Quest involved walking around the screen with the arrow keys and then typing in the command at the right location.
If you move Graham directly with the analog stick and then use buttons to do stuff this is in fact a return to form. KQ 1 and 2, at least, had "jump," "swim," and "duck" keybindings.
Mad Season
Banned
exactly and maaaaaaan was it hard figuring out what to do in those days
I don't think people mind using a controller. I guess here people use "point and click" to mean the kind of focus on logic or inventory puzzles that characterize adventure games.
But the guy's tweet is kind of hilarious, like a thin PR deflection. He'd be better off just saying that the game is a re imagining of KQ with action-adventure gameplay. Otherwise people may cling to that idea of this being a classic adventure game, setting it for disappointment and poor reception.
That's a bit dramatic. Roberta wasn't emotional because he took off that hat (which he did because he had to talk about how much she and her games meant to him, which he did immediately afterwards), she was emotional because they were celebrating her legacy. You can't blame the guy for being a bit nervous. He has done nothing but geeking out about replaying the old games, visiting Roberta at her home and showing her the game in recent weeks.
As for your other points: you're really missing out on some great adventure games. 2D isn't necessarily better than 3D - I'd say that the Monkey Island remakes (especially the first one) completely missed the mark about what made the original art so special. The original art was done by actual great artists like Steve Purcell and Peter Chan, guys who know how to set up a scene and work with color. The remake looked like somebody half-assed a copy of that in flash. You can tell they were under a lot of pressure with money/time, but man, I can't stand how the first one looks. The second remake is better because they listened to the criticism and stayed closer to the original art a bit more though.
The 3D Sam & Max and Monkey Island games were actually, for a large part, written by the people who wrote the original Lucasarts games. You shouldn't really ignore that. Especially the third Telltale Sam & Max season looks great at times - probably the closest they have gotten to the look of the original comics in any medium. You can criticize titles like this based on the writing or gameplay/puzzles, but purely disregarding them because they're using 3D models (which gives them a lot more freedom in animation and camera angles/movement, allowing them to do much more with their budget compared to a 2D title - something as good looking as Curse of Monkey Island isn't going to happen these days because it costs a ridiculous amount of money to make something like that look good) is just so weird to me. We're not in the 90s anymore, you can actually convey some pretty cool artstyles in 3D.
As for this game - very curious, will probably check it out. I was always more of a Lucasarts guy than a Sierra guy, but I always respected the titles for what they were. I'll give any new adventure game a chance, even if they're doing something a bit different with gameplay.
SeventhSon
Member
Sir Graham better be voiced by Josh Mandel!
SeventhSon
Member
King's Quest theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkyqHwSKe78
Dog Problems
Banned
Awesome. A bit more excited for this now.
OpinionatedCyborg
Member
We all know this is the true theme of the series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69M2iiI__XQ
Does anyone actually know what the plot is going to be? I remember the guys talking about how it's about an older Graham telling a story about his past to his granddaughter. The trailer shows a lot of scenes that could be from the first game. It's been a while for me, but I recognize the dragon, his cave, the mirror that was found there and the well. Could just be nods, but it makes it seem like it's retelling of the first game (which kind of goes against the narration, although they can extend it quite a bit as there isn't exactly a lot of plot in the first game).
Like I said earlier, I was never really a Sierra guy back in the day, but one thing that I always found really cool was how big the world seemed and how you basically decided where you wanted to go yourself. I hope they'll keep that, instead of turning it into a linear action adventure. I'm not expecting a Skyrim-sized world, but getting lost and deciding where you wanted to explore was kind of magic back in the day.
I don't think I've ever beaten a Sierra game though. I could handle (and liked) the death scenes, but the dead ends and obscure puzzle solutions where way to much to handle for me as a 8-year old non-English speaker. Just liked walking through the world and trying random stuff. My real passion began with the first Monkey Island. Still, pretty cool that it's coming back, and cautiously optimistic about it, depending on what they're actually going to do with it.
Like I said earlier, I was never really a Sierra guy back in the day, but one thing that I always found really cool was how big the world seemed and how you basically decided where you wanted to go yourself. I hope they'll keep that, instead of turning it into a linear action adventure. I'm not expecting a Skyrim-sized world, but getting lost and deciding where you wanted to explore was kind of magic back in the day.
I don't think I've ever beaten a Sierra game though. I could handle (and liked) the death scenes, but the dead ends and obscure puzzle solutions where way to much to handle for me as a 8-year old non-English speaker. Just liked walking through the world and trying random stuff. My real passion began with the first Monkey Island. Still, pretty cool that it's coming back, and cautiously optimistic about it, depending on what they're actually going to do with it.
SeventhSon
Member
Perfect opportunity to let you guys know there is a free fan remade of the first 3 Kings Quest games by AGD Interactive from their website. Yep there is even a Quest for Glory 2 remake.
http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/games.html
- PnC Controls
- Added story and fleshed-out characters
- Changes to puzzles
- Enhanced artwork and graphics to be more like Kings Quest 5 onwards
- Remastered music
- Added ambiance
By the way, every King's Quest fan should play the KQ I-III remakes, they are superb. They even got the original voice of King Graham from KQ V (Josh Mandel) to voice Graham!
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Much as I doubt Odd Gentlemen's including all the old death sequences and myriad ways to enter no-win scenarios (probably for the best, as they apparently make playing the older games a chore), I'm not going to assume the new game's a QTE adventure or something like what Telltale does. I'm not satisfied with the non-answer tweet either, but the trailer showed off set-pieces primarily, and KQ's always had those at some level, so it's likely the trailer's catering to the Game Awards viewers rather than us. Not a single look yet at the UI or catalog of regular actions players can take as Graham and people are jumping to conclusions already. My hope is that inventory puzzles in the vein of Williams' games are here to stay, with multiple solutions and medium challenge involved. Being able to select game progression settings (like starting from the beginning upon death or electing to continue from the last checkpoint) would expand the audience for this more.
Labrynian Rebel
Member
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
looks amazing. When I was little, I'd watch my older brother play Kings Quest.
As I got older, I played several of them. I only beat Kings Quest IV. But damn, it was an amazing game.
As I got older, I played several of them. I only beat Kings Quest IV. But damn, it was an amazing game.
AvoidDaNoid
Banned
Glad it is an Adventure game. Trailer looked lime something else. I love the genre. Bring back Space Quest or Quest for Glory next please
youre right... it looks so much better than the hand drawn animation from the old school KQ games... what was i thinking.
Stop lying, We all know THIS is the true theme to the King's Quest series.
Joking aside, the tribute to Ken and Roberta Williams at The Game Award took me aback for how heartfelt it was. Really makes me want this game to be great.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Nostalgia's a powerful thing.
lol okay maybe not exactly... im more reminiscent of KQVI
anyway.. my point being that it SHOULD have opted for a better cel-shaded look to give it an updated animation quality (if not outright just being updated hand drawn animation) rather than this quasi-cel-shaded look.
To be honest id rather have a KQ game done in the type of animation used in Curse of Monkey Island but higher resolution
That's a nice dream and all, but putting together thousands of hand drawn, high resolution animation cels tends to be outside the scope of an indie developer's budget.
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask but I guess I will anyways. Trying to figure out which King's Quest I played when I was reaaaaly little. All I remember is that I think at one point you play as a blonde girl (princess?) and have to break out of a dungeon at one point. I really want to try it out again so I would be thankful for some help. Sorry, I know I barely have anything to go on.
Edit: Holy crap, this is the third time I've opened a page today.
Edit: Holy crap, this is the third time I've opened a page today.