Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I can't get excited about a Kojima game. He doesn't have the talent surrounding him anymore.
No numbers then? OkIt's being played more than everything else except Fortnite and COD: Warzone. That's not insignificant no matter how you slice it.
Numbers?Its means more micro transactions and money spent on the game.
the joke went right over your head.Yes... people who sold their PCs... on which you could play Doom, Quake, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, etc. for years and years... have sold their PCs.... and rebought them at twice the price....
This definitely happened in real life.
Feel like these console wars are genuinely driving people insane.
Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
Of course it never left. Its a firsty party studio game.Gears 5 was on Gamepass day 0, No. 1 on most played charts during launch week, and then.... After 4 weeks went to No. 40 on most played charts. Yeah, GamePass helped Gears 5. :/. And Gears 5 never leaved GamePass.
Big enough numbers on Xbox to only be topped by Fortnite and COD. Spin it however you like. Square Enix by dropping their title into Game Pass it's getting loads more attention from Xbox gamers than what it would have without Game Pass. I sure as hell would have never played it, which would have been a shame since it's actually quite fucking good.No numbers then? Ok
He put Subsistence on Xbox. He came on the Xbox stage at e3 at least once.Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
Ok so just to make sure...no numbers then. Ok.Big enough numbers on Xbox to only be topped by Fortnite and COD. Spin it however you like. Square Enix by dropping their title into Game Pass it's getting loads more attention from Xbox gamers than what it would have without Game Pass. I sure as hell would have never played it, which would have been a shame since it's actually quite fucking good.
Ok so just to make sure...no numbers then. Ok.
kojima dont need anybody he makes his games on his own. he's that goodI can't get excited about a Kojima game. He doesn't have the talent surrounding him anymore.
ShrugsWait, top 3 across all of Xbox consoles wasn't good enough for you? I can always tell when I'm dealing with an upset child. Join my prestigious ignored list kid.
Yeah, I agree 100%! Kojima is about to shoot himself in the foot (assuming it is true)
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honour and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance. What this means is the Japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase this game for any system, nor will they purchase any of Kojima's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima is about to alienate an entire market with this move. Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel this (rumoured) Xbox deal or you can kiss your business goodbye.
This copypasta is the gift that keeps on giving.
Yeah, I agree 100%! Kojima is about to shoot himself in the foot (assuming it is true)
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honour and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance. What this means is the Japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase this game for any system, nor will they purchase any of Kojima's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima is about to alienate an entire market with this move. Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel this (rumoured) Xbox deal or you can kiss your business goodbye.
then what are you doing in this thread?Shame cause I only support Sony. Screw PC and Xbox. They don't deserve my money. Only Sony does. You won't catch me buying Xbox anything for a Kojima Xbox exclusive.
You're only looking at the most recent gen (which was rough for all Xbox fans regardless of the tepid interest in the Xbox brand in Japan), and also you're excluding every non-American gamer outside Japan who might buy an Xbox solely because of a Kojima game. Don't forget Japan was only a part of the PS4 being one of the best selling consoles ever. It's the PlayStation's global appeal that has kept it so successful. Having an exclusive game on Xbox would be pretty big for many people that typically avoid Microsoft. Lastly, if gamers in Japan are unwilling to buy an Xbox then all anyone can do is say best of luck, wave and move on.Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
Well, they get it from Microsoft: "Microsoft and Sony announced a “strategic partnership” in May 2019, which will result in the PlayStation maker using Microsoft Azure data centres for cloud gaming and content streaming services."
He tricked Sony into funding his passion project. I bet the Xbox game will be more traditional in its gameplay whatever genre it ends up being. The Stadia rumor already pointed to it being a horror game.
It’s true. Just look at the credits throughout his games. Kojima did everythingkojima dont need anybody he makes his games on his own. he's that good
"simultaneous accounts" LMAO!What is so surprising about this? What does "most played" mean? Do they even provide the number of simultaneous accounts playing their games? If you don't give us any numbers, all that "impact" is meaningless.
Ok"simultaneous accounts" LMAO!
Thats fine they dont have to, im playing plenty of japanese games on my xbox here in America.Will believe it when I see it. Nobody in Japan gives a shit about Xbox.
and with kojima love for hollywood type of thing you think he cares about the Japanese market? which among other things is only interested in the mobile/portable games/consoles?Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
Certainly your anecdotal evidence trumps years of poor xbox sales in japan but whateverThats fine they dont have to, im playing plenty of japanese games on my xbox here in America.
Companies are more than 1 country that’s lacking in sales ...Certainly your anecdotal evidence trumps years of poor xbox sales in japan but whatever
I don’t think he tricked Sony at all. It was Andrew House’s leaving gift to an old friend.I genuinely believe this shit. He got Sony to fund the insane shit he wanted to do, and his next game will be more like what was expected of him.
Mark Cerny is buying Kojima too!
Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
It's Kojima, I cannot imagine many publishers saying "no" to him, especially not Sony. Sure it all comes down to the money, so Microsoft can make the best offer. Agreed, when it is a offer which you cannot resit, it's probably hard for him to say "no", but as a Japanese person who cares about his image in his home country, it's not that easy. Japanese gamers will not think like "I guess he didn't had any other choice, considering the offer", they will be furious at him instead. So from a business perspective I get it, but it would surely turn the japanese gaming community against him and I am not sure that he wants that, unless he has plans to permanently relocate outside of Japan.It's not an exclusivity deal (which implies a deal between a publisher and a platform holder), it's just a straightforward publishing deal. Kojima is an independent developer and can't make a game without a publisher, for all we know he pitched it to multiplatform publishers and they said no. It's not about picking sides, the guy just wants to make games.
I guess the same as the Xbox one versión of nba2k21 its treating youDecade old games, new games, upgraded games, you name it. How's the PS4 version of Avengers treating you?
Wow. Are we remaking posts or is this a remaster?Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
I mean... That would kind of be the point of itWill believe it when I see it. Nobody in Japan gives a shit about Xbox.
It's Kojima, I cannot imagine many publishers saying "no" to him, especially not Sony. Sure it all comes down to the money, so Microsoft can make the best offer. Agreed, when it is a offer which you cannot resit, it's probably hard for him to say "no", but as a Japanese person who cares about his image in his home country, it's not that easy. Japanese gamers will not think like "I guess he didn't had any other choice, considering the offer", they will be furious at him instead. So from a business perspective I get it, but it would surely turn the japanese gaming community against him and I am not sure that he wants that, unless he has plans to permanently relocate outside of Japan.
Unless SONY told him to fuck off with his next game request. I personally enjoyed DS but it wasn't for everyone and the Kojima name isn't as big anymore as it was in the mid 2000s. He is just slowly but surely becoming a meme like that Ninja Gaiden guy that never takes his sunglasses off. Just too full of himself but the industry moved on.
Sakaguchi seems to be doing just fine in Japan despite his deals with MS that brought us Lost Odyseey and Blue Dragon.Look I get it that it’s business and all that counts in the end is the money, but honestly I cannot see Kojima agreeing to any exclusivity deal with Microsoft. Japanese gamers don’t own a XBOX, you can see the numbers of consoles shipped to Japan and it didn’t change with XBox Series X/S. Making an exclusive game for Microsoft would piss of nearly all Japanese console players and they would start to hate him. I live already over 10 years in Japan and your public face and honor is among the most important thing for Japanese. So as a Japanese person who also stated his love for his PlayStation fan base and is thankful to Sony for everything I cannot really seeing him agreeing to any kind of deal. Sure money is the best motivator but he knows what that would mean for his public face in Japan.
Lets get a little context here. Sunset overdrive, one of the best playing games of last gen came out on a console where good games didn't matter to the the online forum. People pointed fingers at it and said "lol 900p at 30 fps, what a piece of shit" they pitched the game to Sony first but Sony wanted to own it. They went with ms because ms were tge only company that would allow them to keep the IP. Something that will hopefully allow is to see a sequel at some point.I wonder if this may turn out to be a situation like Sunset Overdrive.
Insomniac Games was as close to Sony as any studio could, but they developed an exclusive game for Microsoft, published by XGS, Sunset Overdrive. That game tanked, and Insomniac realized the reach and market share of PlayStation and the importance of long-term fans. They never worked with MS again, and even ended up being acquired by Sony after stating multiple times that they want to stay independent.
Either way, good luck to Kojima, and I hope he makes a wonderful game -- regardless for whomever he makes it.