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Can't believe there is so little love for Metal Gear Solid Touch!
No, I think MGS4 and Lords Of Shadow are very redeeming but then they didn't need redemption in the first place imo, unlike Square Enix.
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Konami is the worst of this generation.
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Can't believe there is so little love for Metal Gear Solid Touch!
No, I think MGS4 and Lords Of Shadow are very redeeming but then they didn't need redemption in the first place imo, unlike Square Enix.
Ragnarsson
Member
Willfully ignoring Metal Gear, Castlevania, Pro Evolution Soccer and titles such as Silent Hill: Shattered Memories or Lunar Knights? Yeah, I totally agree.
you cray
Hey Konami, reboot Sunset Riders with fox engine as an open world title RDR clone with the most brutal storyline ever conceived, wait for those GOTY awards rain.
You're welcome.
And Silent HIll Downpour, give it chance, it's bette than 4. Only true SH this gen.
Everyone loves Metal Gear, I hate Soccer, Castlevania LoS didn't appeal to me, and I'm not a fan of Lunar.
It was decent. Not as good as 4 or Shattered Memories, but decent.
Audible Phonetics
Member
Contra 4
Says it all.
Says it all.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Well, in the case of Street Fighter, I almost find it nostalgic as it's the same kind of thing they did back in the day (though not to that insane degree).
Bionic Commando was not a sales success but as a game? It was fantastic. Rearmed was absolutely amazing and, on the PC, the reboot was also a hell of a lot of fun. Rearmed 2 was also good.
Konami has achieved near global irreverence, with each gen since the snes/genesis era they been going downhill now there at the point no matter what they do they can't disappoint or anger anyone since they have very little mind share.
What has konami done this gen
Bought Hudson soft and killed off the company and it's franchise like bomberman
Killed off Goemon and got rid of the goemon team
Killed the internal igavania team and outsource castlevania
Killed off the silent hill team and outsourced the franchise to make some bad games and an unplayable hd remaster
sukioden who? gone
Pro evo soccor has become a sad joke
Failed to make mgs revengence so they outsourced it to developer that can, then made a video ridiculing the team that failed.
All in all there E3 Press conference was Legendary!
What has konami done this gen
Bought Hudson soft and killed off the company and it's franchise like bomberman
Killed off Goemon and got rid of the goemon team
Killed the internal igavania team and outsource castlevania
Killed off the silent hill team and outsourced the franchise to make some bad games and an unplayable hd remaster
sukioden who? gone
Pro evo soccor has become a sad joke
Failed to make mgs revengence so they outsourced it to developer that can, then made a video ridiculing the team that failed.
All in all there E3 Press conference was Legendary!
TalesOfWin
Banned
I gave up faith when Goemon (mystical ninja) stopped coming over to the west.
Konami invested too much into Fox engine so they couldn't put out enough quality games. Now that the engine is finished I hope we get more and more games. MGS isn't enough they need to start developing more quality new IP's, and for fudge sake give Silent Hill to someone competent!
And personally I think they should purchase Platinum and allow them to create whatever they want. It will be the best decision they ever made.
And personally I think they should purchase Platinum and allow them to create whatever they want. It will be the best decision they ever made.
As long as it's not made by some c-grade developer I'll be very happy. Can't they just put Team Silent back together again or have the staff left?
The Frankman
Banned
how dare you rock a Carmelo avatar and not post in the NBA thread in OT Community.
No.
RustyNails
Member
That e3 (2010?) Konami conference is simply the greatest live presentation on earth. We will never see anything like it.
TheGreyHulk
Member
we're waiting for that PC release.
thesuperfunk
Member
Wait, I thought we all hated Capcom this gen?
BluePoint did the HD conversion, so Team ICO haven't actually released anything.
edit: beaten
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Lords of Shadow was a different IP with Castlevania elements shoehorned in. It would have been better off as its own series.
Bluekaveli
Member
Atari says hi.
Alone in The Dark speaks for itself.
Alone in The Dark speaks for itself.
But Atari is dead.
chemicals
Member
I keep hearing this, too. Never tried it yet.
Oyashrio-Sama
Member
Lords of Shadow was awesome!
I really feel sad for having to agree with this assessment OP. Konami used to be high up there in the gaming pantheon for us all, right next to Capcom, Nintendo, Sega in fact. That they now are betting almost everything on one (be it good) franchise is depressing to me.
Just think how cool it would be if they had released frequent updates to Contra, Sparkster, Gradius / Parodius and Ganbare Goemon throughout the years and that these would have evolved along side Metal Gear into relevant and popular modern franchises as well? Or how about some good licensed games such as the TMNT ones from the past, or even new IP's that rival their old output just as Capcom has more or less successfully tried to do?
And while I welcome the fact that they still bother to do something with the Castlevania brand, I'm still not sure if the lastest games (while being pretty good) are what I want for that franchise (heck, if they do have to ape another franchise, make it Dark Souls instead of God of War seeing as the old Castlevania gameplay already was quite slow and difficult).
Their take-over of Hudson Soft is also depressing to say the least. At least do SOMETHING with the more popluar Hudson brands such as Bomberman, Konami. We beg of you! (Here is a free idea: why not release a colorful Wii U multiplayer focused Bomberman in the vain of Pacman Vs.?)
Mentions MGS4
"the worst of this generation."
JustRiffled
Banned
They aren't worse than on PS2 but not as good as they were on Dreamcast and early Xbox.
Sega's most notable PS2 series, Yakuza, has envolved the most this Generation. For their RPG''s with their Sakura Wars series (JP only bit still) and Skies of Arcadia, they countinued that legacy well with Valkyria Chronicles.
Sonic has been a mixed bag (since the DC), Phantasy Star went downhill, and their Xbox output was killed (Smilebit's games) and no Shenmue 3...but they published Platinum Games, fixed up Sonic and Phantasy Star.
thesolidshark
Member
One thing many of those reviews may have glossed over was the Game+ aspect, where you could take new weapons, abilities, costumes, etc into higher difficulties that made a world of difference.
Konami and Platinum sold me an 80+ hour game, so far; even each story DLC I could get 10 hours out of. It's not the story length, but how it's fun enough to make you keep coming back.
Absinthian
Neo Member
Konami published probably the best Contra game ever with Hard Corps: Uprising
Konami just doesn't know what the fuck it's doing these days. They have serious company-wide issues, not just related to development, but PR/marketing and all the rest of it.
They did release a handful of gems this generation, but overall it was a mess. The only thing they actually have any competence in is Metal Gear, and that's because they seemingly take a hands-off approach. Konami just tells Kojipro to make another Metal Gear, Kojipro is like "okay", and they handle the rest. I bet it wasn't Konami the publisher's idea to give MGR to P*, because that was a great idea, and they're not capable of great ideas.
They did release a handful of gems this generation, but overall it was a mess. The only thing they actually have any competence in is Metal Gear, and that's because they seemingly take a hands-off approach. Konami just tells Kojipro to make another Metal Gear, Kojipro is like "okay", and they handle the rest. I bet it wasn't Konami the publisher's idea to give MGR to P*, because that was a great idea, and they're not capable of great ideas.
SporeCrawler
Member
Nobody mentioned Pro Evolution Soccer on WiiU right? Best useof the wiimote ij a soccer game imho.
SporeCrawler
Member
Elebits was a pretty good game.
1. Not many major japanese publishers gave wii that much support. The most support came from marvelous and they are still pretty fine.
2. Wii had two zelda games (3 if you count crossbow training) and three mario platformer games. On top they had a wide range of games incl. Old (punchout, donkey kong, smash bros) and new ip(xenoblade, last story, wii sports, wii fit, regonleiv).
1. Not many major japanese publishers gave wii that much support. The most support came from marvelous and they are still pretty fine.
2. Wii had two zelda games (3 if you count crossbow training) and three mario platformer games. On top they had a wide range of games incl. Old (punchout, donkey kong, smash bros) and new ip(xenoblade, last story, wii sports, wii fit, regonleiv).
Duxxy3
Member
No metroidvania.
That is the only game that I want from Konami and there has not been one since OoE, hasn't been a console one since SOTN (that xbla game doesn't count).
The only thing I have had to get me through my metroidvania fix was monster tale, and that was back in 2011.
Dammit Konami I need my fix!!
That is the only game that I want from Konami and there has not been one since OoE, hasn't been a console one since SOTN (that xbla game doesn't count).
The only thing I have had to get me through my metroidvania fix was monster tale, and that was back in 2011.
Dammit Konami I need my fix!!
No releases is a step up from releasing garbage.
All three of them published tons of great games atleast
BadAss2961
Member
"soon"
Duxxy3
Member
I often wonder how many people he has brutally murdered in his life time.
I will go ahead and say 415.
I can defiitely imagine they're the worst for long term fans, but they've been a very successful company precisely because they've abandoned their fans and explored other avenues. For those who don't know, Konami has been quite profitable this generation; in an age when SquareEnix and EA and Take 2 and Sony and THQ have all lost considerable amounts of money, Konami has grown significantly thanks to their refocusing on fitness centers outside of gaming and mobile devices in gaming.
...Fitness Centers? Now I've never heard of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami
"Video games" as we know them just aren't Konami's primary business anymore. Much to their benefit, economically.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
I've played the game over and over myself but most people don't care that much and the sales showed that. Replay value is not an excuse to fragment the game. Bayonetta had almost twice the main story length.
Milking the loyal gamers and alienating a wider audience is a dumb idea. If sales were better, we would already be talking about a sequel.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
They killed Hudson. That's all they needed to do.
corrosivefrost
Member
Best action games EVER. It's pretty much the *only* action game of 2013, IMO.
Sure Silent Hill HD collection had a bit of issues, as well as ZOE HD... but apparently ZOE HD just got a patch, long after the game's release to finally fix the problems. MGS HD was good on consoles and on Vita (save for the lack of PW HD being ported). Revengeance is one of the best games put out this generation. I justed picked up the SH:BoM game for Vita on sale last week and it's a fun game. Konami put out Hard Corps. The list goes on and on.
Anyway, Konami is fine. There's much worse out there.