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Kotaku posts new rumors about Xbox 720/PlayStation 4 (Power, Release Timing)
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Roughly 8 times as powerful is what that old roadmap leak from Microsoft said and that's damn good. If people don't think that's going to be a generational leap then they are crazy.
I really hope that the PS4 is much, much, much easier to program for than the Playstations of the past.
I really hope that the PS4 is much, much, much easier to program for than the Playstations of the past.
And people thought Sony had this generation in the bag. Nothing is for certain.
Region free, anyway (which is the more important of the two, for me)
pharmboy044
Member
Sony needs to hit Black Friday.
Black friday won't mean jack shit. This is launch year.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
Sony needs to take their time and release hardware that's better than microsofts for cheeper.
If both consoles are equal in power, the one with the better first party and free online is what'll get me. Kinnect/Move shit is a non-issue for me.
Green Biker Dude
Banned
true, but sony made mistake after mistake
microsoft has the superior tools, will likely have the superior hardware, they have more people attached to their services, as well as a better relationship with the majority of western third parties than sony or nintendo... they just have no disadvantages besides (maybe) weaker exclusives. and that's a big maybe.
i don't think console launches are what they used to be. i guess we'll see with the Orbis/Durango, but i think huge launches with 0 supply everywhere are a thing of the past.
The PSP/PS3/Vita are region free however. Why would Sony go back?
DeuceGamer
Member
Sounds good, let's hope it's true and that they do come out soon. They mention the momentum 360 has but neither want to wait until they lose all their momentum before launching a new console.
SonicColours
Banned
......Well half of that joke still works. Then again with Windows 8 underperforming it's easily changed
lolwut?
PSVita is region free, but it's sort of a step backwards from PSN stuff on the PS3. And things like P4A / MGR:R demo being region locked are issues.
Not assuming they'll go back, but it's looking like more of a possibility than say a year ago.
KillerMan91
Member
Maybe if you look things from US perspective. In other parts of the world Sony still has edge over MS as total shipped numbers are pretty much equal at the moment for X360 and PS3.
After PS3 and Vita, I also think Sony won't go all "hardware-power" next gen. I do think it will be pretty close.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
All this launch stuff makes me curious - will MS go the extra mile to make sure they don't face another RROD situation this time around?
After owning three 360s, I don't know if I want to buy a launch console from them... well, ever.
After owning three 360s, I don't know if I want to buy a launch console from them... well, ever.
Dr.Palutena
Member
Well I think Microsoft is slightly more competent than Sony -brushes RROD, windows vista and 8 under a rug-, ever so slightly. Well at the very least there aren't as many stuff for them to bungle.
I agree the way it works on the Vita isn't ideal. As for the the demos that's just Atlas/Konami being jackasses. Hell, Atlas is the only company to release a region-locked game on the PS3.
It's going to be hilarious watching your reaction if/when it turns out to actually be true.
Why is it so unlikely for this to happen?
Tallshortman
Member
Black Friday is not that huge of a deal for launches because the price will remain the same. As long as they launch within the holiday window (at least a few weeks before christmas) they should be fine.
eighty(one)
Member
Services like Live have become my sour grapes. As a primarily single player gamer, the online successes (as a service medium) have been translated by third parties as: shoehorn multiplayer/co-op into every game.
There are many times where a game might have turned out better without resources and disk space diverted to tacked on modes. Not only this, why must games (RE) I don't want to play co op in, have multiple characters tagging along with AI?
Damn this Internet gaming era!
(great multiplayer or online integration I applaud are Dark Souls/Dragons Dogma interaction)
I say Feb is the earliest they would get it out. It would be interesting to see the chaos if they did a very limited Japanese release for Christmas. Like some VIP style release.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
If MS is going for an 8x leap from the 360, Sony will too. They're both going to be right on par with one another so they both get all the third-party games. It will be just like this gen with the PS3 and 360.
Anyone have that quote from Tretton where he said something about Sony being a hardware company and always wanting to push tech... I can't remember, but it was a while ago and was in response to a question about next-gen.
Only an idiot would think the Wii U could even dream of running the NeXtBox's games.
It simply is not going to happen. At least nothing near the same quality...if it even gets a down-port.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Don't forget the Zune, Kin and the cancellation of Courier
Edit: And Windows ME. Good God damn did ME suck piles of shit.
Don't forget the Zune, Kin and the cancellation of Courier
I'LL NEVER FORGET MY BEAUTIFUL BROWN ZUNE DAMN IT!
Chuck Norris
Banned
For many, like myself, Live is not a compelling factor. I have invested in a PSN account and I see XBL as a ridiculous barrier for entry. I doubt I'm alone.
I think the quote was something along the lines of "We've never been first and we've never been cheapest."
The one thing I'm curious about is whether Sony will wait for a worldwide release or if not, what territory they'll release first in. Microsoft can get away with releasing in the US for months before EU and Japan get the system. Sony is a bit more reliant on sales in all 3 territories.
Technically that would be the 680/7970....those are the second most powerful GPU levels.
You can't just throw out a range...there's even a noticable gap between a 660 and a 660ti.
How do you propose they do that? To produce better hardware that is also cheaper, they would have to significantly delay the PS4 unless they are planning on taking a bigger hit on hardware.
Also there's little chance either company really knows what the other is doing, so how would they know how much to spend on hardware?
I have repeatedly said I don't expect any big difference in performance, but I recall you being very willing to believe the PS4 will be more powerful than the 720 in the PS4/Jeff Rigby thread. So why is the opposite so lol-worthy to you?
I can care less if there is a noticeable difference in performance between the two platforms, I'll just get the more powerful of the two at launch. However IF the xbox is more powerful than the PS4, I can't wait to see your reaction.
That was all marketing PR bull with no basis on any facts or knowledge on their competitors. That's no different than the person at Sony saying they don't want to launch last but it's still a possibility.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Different Exec's say different thing's. Tretton has said they don't care about being out first with PS4 just being the best. While another (maybe Andrew House..I don't remember) has said they don't want to launch after the others. (Paraphrasing)
Between them they'll cover all bases.
Well, bigger costs will probably kill a lot of developers and the ones with money won't be willing risk it making "not mainstream" games. I do know there are some other platforms for smaller developers, but but I fear for the bigger ones...
Only if they didn't learn anything this gen. I do believe they'll be close to each other, but I don't think microsoft will push it that much too. I could be wrong, of course.
Nealand Liquor
Member
I do feel bad for all the posters that absolutely believed the wiiu was going to rival current top PCs. I have little doubts that the wiiu will be a great console for Nintendo and fans, but I don't expect to see next gen down ports coming to it. One good thing going for wiiu owners is they can expect ps360 ports as MS & Sony will likely support last gen for a couple years after the new consiles launch.
Beerman462
Member
I think both systems will be very similar.
From everything I've read I think they will both have
8core APU with multithreading. MS will stick with IBM, but Sony is going AMD. I also think the GPU portion of the APU will be used for aiding the discrete card I've seen rumors of vsync without a performance hit. Since MS is using IBM they might be able to work some backwards compatabilty.
7800 AMD graphics probably somewhere between the 7870/7850
Split Ram 2GB video 2GB system. Would like 3GB each maybe Epic will convice them to add more.
Both will have Blu-Ray and a Hardrive nothing special.
Sony could easily sell at $350 and not lose much. MS will want to bundle Kinect 2.0 which means a $400 console or they take a loss to compete with Sony.
This is all pulled straight from my ass. But it's what I believe based on all the rumors I've seen. The price is based off past and present BOMs I've seen.
From everything I've read I think they will both have
8core APU with multithreading. MS will stick with IBM, but Sony is going AMD. I also think the GPU portion of the APU will be used for aiding the discrete card I've seen rumors of vsync without a performance hit. Since MS is using IBM they might be able to work some backwards compatabilty.
7800 AMD graphics probably somewhere between the 7870/7850
Split Ram 2GB video 2GB system. Would like 3GB each maybe Epic will convice them to add more.
Both will have Blu-Ray and a Hardrive nothing special.
Sony could easily sell at $350 and not lose much. MS will want to bundle Kinect 2.0 which means a $400 console or they take a loss to compete with Sony.
This is all pulled straight from my ass. But it's what I believe based on all the rumors I've seen. The price is based off past and present BOMs I've seen.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
im say this every thread but the company that keeps BC with this gens online games, gets my money.
No Retail BC i can live with but no PSN/LIVE BC is a dealbreaker.
No Retail BC i can live with but no PSN/LIVE BC is a dealbreaker.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... Out of everything that is probably the least likely.
nelsonroyale
Member
Eh, seems to be we have very little credible information so far, and there have been just as many rumours stating the next xbox will be less powerful as more powerful. So it seems to be there are people who are inclined to believe one or the other. Obviously with nothing like proof to offer on either side.
Like others have said though, I think it is likely to be a flush. I don't think either side can afford to give the other a substantial power advantage. Things might be different if MS to make a full on media centre though.
Chuck Norris
Banned
These rumours are quite old especially the RAM
It's either that or the 4G radio.
AstroNut325
Member
So the main takeaway from this "rumor" post is that Durango/Orbis are within the same ballpark of theoretical performance. So much for the FUD being spread around for Sony following Nintendo's path.
THANK THE LORDS!
THANK THE LORDS!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm just curious as to why people insist on bringing up Wii U in threads that have nothing to do with the system.
AstroNut325
Member
Because of the strangely held belief that Wii U is a next gen system and that it would get ports of Orbis/Durango games.
Chuck Norris
Banned
There is a 100% chance they know what their competitor is doing, people talk in all industries and dev kits are out in the wild. They may not know the exact configuration,it they will both understand the ballpark the other is aiming for. One of the more obvious comparisons the two can make with the other will be about RAM, and we have seen a bit of competitiveness there already if rumours are to be believed