Timan
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The usb comment was about how everyone freaked out over the initial ipad not having one
I mean hell all they need to do is include an adapter that you can just "leave on" the end of your 3.5mm headphone jack?
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Leaked iPhone 7 Plus Design = iPhone 6 Plus w/o Headphone Jack
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The usb comment was about how everyone freaked out over the initial ipad not having one
I mean hell all they need to do is include an adapter that you can just "leave on" the end of your 3.5mm headphone jack?
I don't think anyone here wants to have a cable connecting their headphones and phones forever. But at the moment, the technology available simply isn't as widespread, or doesn't offer much benefits compared to the traditional headphones with the 3.5mm jack apart from being wireless. Sound quality is still worse, there is the issue of having to worry about battery life on the headphones and pn the phone, since bluetooth is not always kind on the battery, and also, there is the problem that you CAN have a wireless headphone working on a phone WITH a 3.5mm jack. There is really no reason to get ride of it now as it is.
In 10 years time it might be we won't be using Smartphones any more.
LyleLanley
Banned
People really like to get worked up about this.
your every day Apple internet shit posters are going to be insufferable for the rest of the year. With the earnings + this seemingly boring iPhone this year, some people truly think Apple is done
RowdyReverb
Member
All we need now is somebody to put "-gate" at the end of some related word. Headphone-gate, adapter-gate, socket-gate, whichever sounds the snarkiest (probably not TRRS-gate). It will make the usual gadget news circuits, spark a twitter fire (#____gate will trend for a couple days). YouTube parodies of Apple's marketing videos will be made, and it will filter down to local news and late night talks show opening monologues. And then it will blow over in a month or two as people buy the phone in droves anyway and realize that it's actually not that big of a deal and they'll move on to the next "important" thing to get mad about.
Would that even be possible without some for of a DAC in-between or inside the adapter? Since you'd be transferring analogue (3.5mm) to digital (lightning).
Meus Renaissance
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All those comparing it to the floppy drive have just been added to the Ignore List. I don't have time for these sort of characters.
I never try a new technology until it's officially sanctioned by Apple.
Really though, it's only because I haven't bothered yet. I'll probably get bluetooth earbuds at some point. But I can't imagine an iPhone that requires bluetooth earbuds/headphones won't come with a free pair anyways. If that is the case, that may make it easier to jump ship from Android to iphone this winter when I'm due for an upgrade. Or not. The damn thing isn't even officially announced yet.
If people say cordless audio technology isn't up to snuff yet, that may change my opinion. On the other hand the technology may be forced to progress if countless millions of people who buy the new iPhone (which there will be) suddenly need cordless earbuds.
yikes that seems harsh. isn't it frowned upon to openly speak about ignore lists?
civilstrife
Member
If headphones over lightning cable will be so great, why do they need the removal of the standard headphone jack option to push adoption?
Because it's actually about pushing licensing fees.
SuperPac
Member
But you don't get to that future by coddling people along on a jack until the point people don't use it anymore. Someone has to be the first mover to get to the point where people don't use the 3.5mm jack anymore. There are already companies doing just that. So Apple's not even going to be "first" to this.
Can't wait to see the video of Jony Ive spinning this into a positive light
"What makes iPhone 7 so incredibly unique... is how you can experience the beauty of music without wires. The remarkable precision of rhythm without headphones allows you to express yourself around the world freely in a whole new way. Experience the music like never before"
lololol
"What makes iPhone 7 so incredibly unique... is how you can experience the beauty of music without wires. The remarkable precision of rhythm without headphones allows you to express yourself around the world freely in a whole new way. Experience the music like never before"
lololol
I mean, to be fair, LeEco's one of those Chinese "we're totally better than Apple" copycat companies whose CEO dresses up in a Steve Jobs cosplay while giving a presentation about how Apple's old news and they are the new hotness, so they almost certainly did this purely because Apple is rumored to
LyleLanley
Banned
If they left the the headphone jack in there barely anyone would bother using lightning headphones.
USB-C headphones still have a cord, and still offer the same quality of sound or better than the conventional 3.5mm jack, though. Also, I don't buy that argument. People will move to better alternatives when they are available. It is one step after the other. Develop technology that is convenient and offers advantages to the current technology and people will change. This narrative that Apple is making me a favour by removing the 3.5mm jack so technology can evolve is slightly insulting, tbh.
neat
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Been using a pair of Sony Bluetooth headphones at the gym. They're fine. They still shouldn't remove the headphone jack.
I was at my cousins engagement a couple of weeks ago and thanks to the headphone jack on my 6S Plus, the DJ just plugged my phone in and played a song he didn't have.
AHA-Lambda
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Speak for yourself. Oh wait...
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
I love My MacBook Pro and iPhone 6s Plus, but fuck Apple if they do this. I'll stick to my 6s Plus forever then. I was hoping to get the 7 Plus becuase I need a 64GB model, but 6s Plus I'll stick with then.
It's just a 6S Plus without the headphone jack. Therefore the 6S Plus is already far superior to the 7 Plus. Fuck that.
It's just a 6S Plus without the headphone jack. Therefore the 6S Plus is already far superior to the 7 Plus. Fuck that.
uncelestial
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Well all I can say to that is damn, I'm sorry your commute is so long!
Don't forget the new camera
I'll more than likely go with an iPhone 6S Plus if:
1. The specs for the 7 aren't a large improvement over the 6S.
2. The lightning headphone adapter (or whatever) will be more than $9.99.
I have $200 Klipsch earbuds. Had them for 6 years now. Great quality. I'm not replacing them until they stop working.
1. The specs for the 7 aren't a large improvement over the 6S.
2. The lightning headphone adapter (or whatever) will be more than $9.99.
I have $200 Klipsch earbuds. Had them for 6 years now. Great quality. I'm not replacing them until they stop working.
slick7rick
Member
I can't even remember the last time I used headphones with my phone. Without a commute or school, I have no use. I use wireless headphones for my TV and my PS4. I'm
more disappointed in Apple using the same damn ugly 6/S shape and design. 5S was the best.
more disappointed in Apple using the same damn ugly 6/S shape and design. 5S was the best.
Rushersauce
Banned
There.
WordAssassin
Member
To be fair the adaptor will likely be $19.99 but if you can wait a month or so 3rd party adaptors will come out at a fraction of the cost.
Filthy Casual
Member
No headphone jack lol wtf? Who thought that was a good idea? So fuck everyone who likes using earphones right?
NYR
Member
Yep. I use my shuffle to make phone calls and surf the Internet as well, and having all day battery life as well.You know what's way thinner than an iPhone and has a head phone jack?
:/
Dumb
freenudemacusers
Member
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Using wired headphones in 2016
Using wired headphones in 2016
I guarantee my wired headphones offer better audio quality than whatever wireless option you're using.
Technosteve
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I dont want this phone to be real 
🍐
My iphone 6plus will be worth so much money in a fee years
🍐My iphone 6plus will be worth so much money in a fee years
LyleLanley
Banned
Jokes on you, he actually has people sing directly into his ears.
I dont want this phone to be real
My iphone 6plus will be worth so much money in a fee years
it'll be worth ~$100 in 2 years
Dammit. Ok fine he has me beat.
freenudemacusers
Member
Hard to concentrate on the auditory experience when your senses are being interrupted by the brushing of rubber cables against the body. It's like wearing a condom over your balls. Doing it wrong.
With a wireless connection, the clarity of empty space is all that stands between you and the latest U2 album.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I guarantee most people don't give a shit. Just like how MP3s sounded worse than CDs, no one cares. Convenience wins.
Flying Toaster
Member
Unfortunately this is true. Unfortunate to the few of us audio junkies left. I don't know if I will jump ship or not because of a lack of audio jack.
Difference here is that wired headphones aren't actually very inconvenient. In-fact, there's additional inconveniences towards wireless headphones, such as charging and battery life concerns, that's on top of the worse audio quality, and additional cost. Your example is no where near as comparable to say MP3's and CD's, at least not at present.
If people actually gave a shit about going wireless, there would have already been mass adoption and a replacement of wired by now. Wireless headphone technology has been around for a very long time.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
No, I disagree. They're very convenient and I'm not the only one who thinks that. And they will only get better as the market will be forced to move away from 3.5 mm.
To hell with 3.5 mm and the luddites who cling to it.
The only convenience of wireless headphones over wired is "no wire". They're worse in literally every other way. That's a pretty small benefit compared to what MP3s offered over CDs, which is that you could fit thousands of them in your pocket compared to a dozen or so on a large disc that you had to change every time you wanted to hear something different.
RichiRamjag
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Stone cold
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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True, but it's a relatively moot point if you're streaming music via a mobile phone.
If you're listening using something like this then I'm with you.
If you're an audiophile using an iPhone, then you're not an audiophile and none of this matters anyway.
Honestly, your attitude is pathetic. You're happy for a feature that millions of people love and enjoy be removed, on the assumption that having no other alternative option will somehow force vendors to improve the current technology, at a rate different to what we've already been seeing.
If manufacturers want people to adopt wireless technology, rather than force it upon us, they should actually incentivise it enough that people transition of their own accord. That's the way technology and progress is supposed to work, and the way consumers actually retain maximum value proposition. You offer people a better alternative, and they will inevitably adopt it.
Right now wireless technology is more expensive, in some ways less convenient, offers worse audio quality and is more expensive at that. Basically overall it's worse. And you're actually celebrating people being forced to adopt a potentially shitter option. Classy.
Don't believe everything you read dude. These manufacturers are here to sell products. The iPhone, Galaxy S7, S6 etc, power cans like even the Beyerdynamic T1's and Sennheiser HD800's just fine. There might be marginal differences between how they sound out of a mobile compared to a high end DAC/AMP set up, but it really is minor (mostly in volume differences), but these high end headphones still sound far better than lesser headphones out of these mobiles phones. I know because I've tested these things extensively myself. Hell you don't even need a super expensive DAC/AMP to keep up with the more extortionately priced gear in the first place.
freenudemacusers
Member
The incentive is getting a new Apple product, as opposed to an old Apple product, or lord forbid, one of those also ran android or Windows numbers.
Where is that gif from?Difference here is that wired headphones aren't actually very inconvenient. In-fact, there's additional inconveniences towards wireless headphones, such as charging and battery life concerns, that's on top of the worse audio quality, and additional cost. Your example is no where near as comparable to say MP3's and CD's, at least not at present.
If people actually gave a shit about going wireless, there would have already been mass adoption and a replacement of wired by now. Wireless headphone technology has been around for a very long time.
RichiRamjag
Member
A lot of folks will just deal with it, that's true. I'm more disappointed with the use of the 6 body again, I wanted some innovation there.
Technosteve
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Am i being shamed by an audiophile?
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