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Logan Review Thread - Go Fuck Yourself out of 5
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Fallout-NL
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I feel the same. I think in many ways it's better than The Dark Knight even. Of course Logan doesn't have a performance as strong as Ledger's, but on the whole I like the extremely atypical tone of Logan much better than anything TDK tried to convey. Also so good that they finally just told a smaller story.
Watched it and I thought it was a brilliant dramaction film. Gonna really miss Jackman and Patrick for their roles as Logan and Xavier; just perfect casting. I got really teary eyed in the end. I was 10 years old when I watch the first film
End of an era
Same. X-Men was the first film I watched at the cinema, and 70% of the reason I wanted to watch it was for Jackman's Wolverine.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Really awesome movie. At least as good as X2 and First Class which I liked a lot
My only issue is that
My only issue is that
Logan and the girl were a little underdeveloped. They probably had only literally 20 minutes of actual time together developing alone.
The movie did feel like TLOU at times but not as much as the trailers seemed to suggest. But as a point of reference for a father daughter dynamic it felt very under developed
Loved Xavier in this, and felt like the character really stepped out of the wise old man archetype for once. Felt like he leveraged abit of the McAvoy interpretation.
They really left the story thread about Xavier's mental health hanging though I felt that was going in an interesting direction
Similarly the whole story thread about the goal of the children being made never seem to come together satisfactorily.
Terminator Logan was bad ass. And quite impressive how young and old Hugh could look in the same scene
Overall the ending was very sad and felt like the end of an era. Though I personally like the concept of Wolverine essentially being near immortal more
Credit to Hugh for a great character. I hope the cape isn't fully hung up though, would love a Deadpool cameo
The movie did feel like TLOU at times but not as much as the trailers seemed to suggest. But as a point of reference for a father daughter dynamic it felt very under developed
Loved Xavier in this, and felt like the character really stepped out of the wise old man archetype for once. Felt like he leveraged abit of the McAvoy interpretation.
They really left the story thread about Xavier's mental health hanging though I felt that was going in an interesting direction
Similarly the whole story thread about the goal of the children being made never seem to come together satisfactorily.
Terminator Logan was bad ass. And quite impressive how young and old Hugh could look in the same scene
Overall the ending was very sad and felt like the end of an era. Though I personally like the concept of Wolverine essentially being near immortal more
Credit to Hugh for a great character. I hope the cape isn't fully hung up though, would love a Deadpool cameo
Logan (2017) - ★★☆☆☆
First thing first. We get the violence we've always wanted from a R-rated Wolverine, and we get a kickass cool X-23, and probably Patrick's best performance as Charles Xavier. Not that the violence does much but it does add up to this heavy grounded feel throughout the roadtrip and you get that closer bond to Logan and the rest. It's actually quite personal, yet when you slice your way into the core there's not really that much of a plot. It's very simple and the most story comes from alternative ways of telling a character background. The biggest con is that the movie doesn't do much with the lore it has, the villain is yet again a forgettable and simple one and the pacing is many times too heavy and off and it keeps going when it could have gone for a shorter runtime without losing anything. The movie was alright but the reason I give it 2 instead of 3 stars is, that when all is said and done, I don't wanna see this movie again and so I don't think I'll rewatch it in the coming years.
First thing first. We get the violence we've always wanted from a R-rated Wolverine, and we get a kickass cool X-23, and probably Patrick's best performance as Charles Xavier. Not that the violence does much but it does add up to this heavy grounded feel throughout the roadtrip and you get that closer bond to Logan and the rest. It's actually quite personal, yet when you slice your way into the core there's not really that much of a plot. It's very simple and the most story comes from alternative ways of telling a character background. The biggest con is that the movie doesn't do much with the lore it has, the villain is yet again a forgettable and simple one and the pacing is many times too heavy and off and it keeps going when it could have gone for a shorter runtime without losing anything. The movie was alright but the reason I give it 2 instead of 3 stars is, that when all is said and done, I don't wanna see this movie again and so I don't think I'll rewatch it in the coming years.
Mix Master
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Watching this tonight.
Yeah, i also feel that First class was better, but i believe Logan os better than TDK, since while TDK dragged a lot at the end, Logan actually ends with a bang. Both movies got some drag though.
ArtHands
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Its pretty much standalone, so don't worry
Fallout-NL
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Does Logan tie into any other XMen movie(s)? Does it even tie into The Wolverine at all?
I'm getting in The Wolverine in from netflix tonight to give it a rewatch to get ready. I thought it was entertaining enough on my first watch.
Lovely
I'm getting in The Wolverine in from netflix tonight to give it a rewatch to get ready. I thought it was entertaining enough on my first watch.
Mangold just tweeted this, I'm surprised it's that good
Lovely
Er... It ties into anything you want it to tie in.
It's written in a way where it could follow any timeline really.
33-Hit-Combo
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So do we have definitive confirmation that there is no stinger...?
Spike Spiegel
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Last night I was feeling nostalgic, so before bed I put on the first 'X-Men' starring Jackman and Stewart. I hadn't re-watched the original in years, and amidst the rough visual effects and obvious wirework I found myself marveling at how much younger everyone looked, and realizing how much younger I was when I first saw 'X-Men' in theaters all those years ago (not that young, mind you; I was in college). Life's changed a lot since then... But something kept pulling at my brain every time they brought up the subject of Logan's "Wolverine" dog tag, and by the end of the movie when he gives it to Rogue it hit me.
So this morning, I went looking in storage.
Looking forward to tonight!
So this morning, I went looking in storage.
Looking forward to tonight!
huh.....not sure I like that at all. But it's also probably the best Fox could do with the franchise at this point.
Thanks for the info!
Bobby Roberts
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I'm not sure what to take away from this review.
Bobby Roberts
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ArtHands
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There's a quick tits flash
More_Badass
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In a good way or a bad way?
When I watched the "hurt" trailer I was incredibly excited, but worried the movie could never live up to the tone and emphasis of te trailer (as is often the case of manipulative music in trailers), but this is the rare example of a movie where the trailer is accurate and if anything the movie eclipses that tone.
For me, in a good way, but you will need to decompress. This was by far my favorite comic book related thing and I think it was closer to terminator 2 than xmen films.
The best send off I could have hoped for and a lovely nuanced film.
Depends. Are you a sheep?
purnoman3000
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It's superhero No Country For Old Men with a dose of Mortal Kombat.
OST's unofficially up on YouTube btw. Here's the first track.
super-heated plasma
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Got back a little while ago. One of my favorite movies ever. It's bleak but still has an underpinning of hope. Finally being able to see wolverine really use his claws on screen was a dream come true. Not just because "yay violence and gore!" but because you really can now get the sense of the ferocity and animal rage that is wolverine in the comics that never was shown on film.
In my defense my parents doesnt usually care how bad the violence is, but no nudity for him. I know, it's weird.
wait, Hugh Jackman's magnificent pecs has been reduced from 30 mins to just a flash? goddamnit.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Logan is a 10
Logan takes everything I like about movies and centers it on Wolverine and his daughter killing the fuck out of people
By proxy, Logan is the greatest movie I've ever seen
Pack up your cinematic universes, we're done here
Logan takes everything I like about movies and centers it on Wolverine and his daughter killing the fuck out of people
By proxy, Logan is the greatest movie I've ever seen
Pack up your cinematic universes, we're done here
SuperStiltzkin
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Mangold just tweeted this, I'm surprised it's that good
The "Dark Knight" of _____ is usually always wrongly applied to films and shows that try for that gritty and grounded direction, but fall short.
In this case, I'd agree with the assessment. I'm not talking about story beats or how it tackles its themes or even its critical reception. I just mean in making a very grounded and distinctive superhero film with its own identity. Logan doesn't feel like any other superhero movie around and it doesn't feel like it's chasing the feel of the Dark Knight. It's a deeply personal film about these characters we've grown to love. It's not a movie interested in setting up a cinematic universe or setting up a sequel or following up a previous film. It's a movie that has a specific story it wants to tell without any compromises to continue a franchise.
MotionBlue
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Loved the movie. Easily the best X-men movie, and one of the best hero movies.
I think Wolverine has been hinted at being near immortal, if not for the admantium poisoning.
Messofanego
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Cross-posting my impressions from the MYSR thread:
Going to see it again tomorrow, this time in IMAX and with family.This is what life looks like...You should take a moment. Feel it, Logan. You still have time.
Logan
For such a stacked sub-genre that is superhero films, Logan still doesn't have many equals. Superhero films that are more character studies and thematically focused are either not particularly well liked (Ang Lee's Hulk), don't follow through (Hancock, Iron Man films) or rare but flawed (Nolan's Batman films). Here, the focus is squarely on fatherhood and importance of family in trying times. It's like a sci-fi Lone Wolf and Cub. It's 2029, and mutants are nearly extinct. A company called Transigen is about making new mutants as their own weapons. Logan (Hugh Jackman) has to take care of Charles (an unhinged Patrick Stewart) in a tipped over water tower, who's essentially his father, albeit one with a neurodegenerative disease whose seizures can cause people in the surrounding area to freeze (there's an inventive setpiece in a casino hotel during one of them). He also has to start acting as a father of a new mutant kid, Laura (Dafne Keen), who sports a similar rebellious personality. In a mostly post-mutant world, the few mutants are on the run which turns the film into a very effective and beautifully shot (DP John Mathieson) neo-western. This is not surprising coming from the director James Mangold who previously did 3:10 To Yuma. In fact, there's a key western film (Shane) in the background that ties to the two main characters, Logan and Laura, who have killed but whether it was for "right or wrong, it's a brand, a brand that sticks". The destination is North Dakota, so it's time for a perilous road trip.
Due partially to the R rating, the film can go into showing the true emotions of characters, especially their frustrations. Logan is at the end of his rope, drinking and suicidal ideation hand in hand. Logan's character arc is believable even if saddening, to go from shunning everyone to avoid getting them hurt to eventually trusting in others but there being a big risk. Charles is not afraid of swearing, but these moments can show these characters to be at their most raw and real. Laura (X23-23) is mostly mute, but her playful nature shines through in moments like riding a mechanical horse and getting angry when the ride is out of coins, wearing sunglasses, or riding Charles' wheelchair. Elsewhere the more adult rating shines is in the action being visceral through dismemberment, decapitations, and impaling. While the opening bout with groggy Logan outside of his Chrysler is not the most interestingly shot, it gets better in the later setpieces and especially near the end when tag-teaming is a strategy. Laura's action is as good as Wolverine at his very best. The action choreography with even the cars is memorable, like when Logan reverses his car with a barbed wire stuck to the bumper and uses that to knock out other enemies. There is a glorious one-shot of Logan in the forest just chewing through a gallery of enemies. The villains are formidable even if predictable, with one who can be on equal proving grounds with Logan, making for quite the SNIKT SNIKT battles.
However, when the action dies down, it's when the quietest and most intimate moments happen that give the film real weight (like a family dinner), incomparable to most other superhero films. When Laura, it lands like a hammer. The film isn't self-serious all the time and has rare but appreciable comedic scenes such as Logan's beard being cut to give his trademark mutton chops. All of these moments are when you realise you're watching humans interact and bond with each other, and not costumed heroes set to save the world.finally talks and delivers some powerful lines: ("You are dying. You want to die. Charles told me", to which Logan responds with, "What else did he tell you?" and Laura closes, "To not let you")
Early days, but one of the best superhero films ever with one of the most emotional and poignant final shots.
Honestly after thinking about it, a bit of both. But this isn't the spoiler thread so i'll leave it at that.
Chuck Norris
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you should reallly fix those spoiler tags!
newdayrocks
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I took my 12-year-old son to it last night, and it was completely fine. Lots of glorious violence and F-bombs, and a quick flash of breasts.
PhoncipleBone
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Corpsepyre
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Just came home.
I'll just cut to the chase. You need to watch this. It's a great standalone Wolverine film. Hyper-violent (R-rating was no slouch), and with excellent performances by everyone involved, especially Patrick Stewart. Watching this, you just can't help but feel how big of a factory-line entertainment MCEU has become. We need different superhero films that feel grounded, gritty and mean business. Glad Fox delivered on that front and more. Hoping this succeeds so we can get more experimental comic book films down the line.
17 years in, Hugh Jackman's final take on the character goes out with a bang.
I'll just cut to the chase. You need to watch this. It's a great standalone Wolverine film. Hyper-violent (R-rating was no slouch), and with excellent performances by everyone involved, especially Patrick Stewart. Watching this, you just can't help but feel how big of a factory-line entertainment MCEU has become. We need different superhero films that feel grounded, gritty and mean business. Glad Fox delivered on that front and more. Hoping this succeeds so we can get more experimental comic book films down the line.
17 years in, Hugh Jackman's final take on the character goes out with a bang.
I won't lie, this the first superhero film in awhile that finally made me feel like that.
I still love their movies tho
Corpsepyre
Banned
It's fine. I enjoy them too, but it's been nine years, and we need something different from the formulaic churn-outs.
HammerOfThor
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How hard is the R in this movie? Is it R because there's just a bit more blood and swearing, or is it super violent, nudity, etc?
SuperStiltzkin
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It is violent. Claws through jaw, up through the mouth and out through the scalp violent. And lots of swearing.
BlueDogAnchorite
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It's really violent, with a lot of swearing. There's hardly any nudity.
Can't disagree with you more on this - the MCU is a specific line that is more "general" than other movies. We also have the Netflix Marvel series (which are brutal as hell - Punisher's prison fight rivals anything in Logan) as well as other ventures like Watchmen, Sin City, Kick-Ass, etc.
The world hasn't been hurting for an R-Rated Superman movie. It's awesome that we have more branching out at the higher budget levels, but don't pretend that there haven't been efforts before. I don't want an r-rated MCU and I don't want a PG-13 adaptation of Sex Criminals. They're finding their proper place and that's awesome.
Corpsepyre
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We haven't been getting any real experimental superhero/comic book films lately. Not only talking about film ratings here. Sin City and Kick-Ass are old and done with. Watchmen flopped really bad, even though I loved it, but it effectively killed R-rated or mature big budget superhero outings. Ever since MCEU took over the box office, it's all we've been getting, with more films trying to pander to that formula. I'm glad Logan took me back to 2008 when TDK came out, and you felt that what you were watching was something more than a comic book film.
I do, however, like the Netflix Marvel shows, but they're TV shows in the end. We're talking about cinema here.
I want to see something like The Invisibles, Doom Patrol and Moon Knight.
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