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Lords of the Fallen: Early Impressions
- Thread starter Jindrax
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It's not only about the sequence break though. You can explore quite a bit and there are a few different routes to get to places. You can get to the Graveyard boss from different directions for example. You can also evade one of the bosses by taking a different route if you feel like you need some more leveling (I didn't).
It does give you a few options, so I'd definitely call it relatively non-lineair.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Will be sure to check that out now.
This is what I didn't like from watching the reveal/gameplay videos, the world felt like it was trying to trap the main character from all angles.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Huh. For some reason I thought this was another LOTR related game.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
The game literally tells you about this (the woman does, IIRC) the one time you can do it.
Meh.
day 1 patch, im hoping, will fix the technical problems. kinda sad people are playing through it earlier than planned, but not much you can do.
i'm just hoping the gameplay is good, and to all the impressions so far, it seems to be. sad to hear about the enemy variety and the locations are similar, but this is a small studio and pretty much their biggest try at a new game they've ever done. if it sells well i'm sure their studio will expand.
this game unlocks late on steam right? no chance that steam will do a Shadow of Mordor and release it earlier for everybody? Sucks that I have to wait until the evening otherwise
i'm just hoping the gameplay is good, and to all the impressions so far, it seems to be. sad to hear about the enemy variety and the locations are similar, but this is a small studio and pretty much their biggest try at a new game they've ever done. if it sells well i'm sure their studio will expand.
this game unlocks late on steam right? no chance that steam will do a Shadow of Mordor and release it earlier for everybody? Sucks that I have to wait until the evening otherwise
Hahahaha
Oh shit.
Edit
OK, so it sounds like the PS4 version is fucked. Does the Xbox One version have similar issues?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
To see how much content the title actually has, which gives his opinion a lot more weight behind someone who just ran straight through the story instead.
yeah, i agree, his opinion seems well researched, just not sure i'd personally play eight hours of something i wasn't enjoying, if he's being compensated obviously that's different.
Diablohead
Member
So has anyone got to or tried new game + yet? I want to know if it becomes harder or not, all I have heard about it in a video is you can use + and ++ to unlock the magic groups you skipped the first and second time through.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Note that the positive reactions come from previewers who have played only the first area of the game, up the second boss.
I'm a reviewer.
I'm a reviewer.
flaxknuckles
Member
This is why I don't pre-order games anymore. Previews don't take into account the game morphing into dog doodie half-way through. Thanks for the impressions! I might be saving some money if all the reviews are as negative as yours.
ok sorry gotcha, also sorry to hear it sucked.
NavyPharaoh
Member
Early review impressions seem unfavorable. Oh well, still excited to play for myself
drotahorror
Member
It was a 360 problem. I would private chat with a friend and we both had the same issues, different parts of the USA. You were extremely lucky to get an invade or summon at launch of the game. He also had the ps3 version and had no problems on it.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Honestly, I'm having a good time and I'm about 7 bosses deep. I get that you really, really don't like this game but I'm having a good time, not OMFG amazing but good. So I wouldn't say all positive reactions are early.
cleveridea
Member
man sucks about screen tearing on ps4
do we have any news on xbox one version? if the 900p is without tearing I'll pick up that version instead (have ps4 version preordered)
do we have any news on xbox one version? if the 900p is without tearing I'll pick up that version instead (have ps4 version preordered)
ive seen alot of people streaming that says they are only allowed to stream up to the first 4 bosses. i guess its different for some, but this one dude yesterday said the game was great so far. i dunno, there has been so many mixed impressions so far, but most of them has been very positive. especially from the "souls veterans" themselves.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Yeah. Was only allowed to show up to boss 4. Though I feels like that was a long time ago for me at this point. I feel that this game is best played with patience. Much like Dark Souls. If I try to rush an area, etc I get sloppy, I get killed more, and I get frustrated. Starting the game over after 8 hours for my stream was great cause I was now used to the games mechanics, and also found stuff I missed the first time. Also been playing xbox one. There is tearing and framerate issues. Though I don't think they are throughout. Seems they only pop up in some areas, etc.
qa_engineer
Member
Today I learned that ground zeroes was the benchmark for "fun" on the PS4. The first party drought is real, folks.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
What class were you playing, if I may ask? People were saying (I have no idea if rightly or wrongly) that warrior = easy, cleric = normal and rogue = hard, or something...?
That's very disappointing to hear. Especially for the story and NPCs. They forced this lame protagonist on us instead of giving us a character creator in the name of the "story", and it's not even good? Urgh.
Hopefully those will be fixed with the day 1 patch. Anything about the framerate? What someone else said was really alarming. 15-20 FPS?
Ouch. :/
But there were some bosses that gave you a hard time, right? Capra, S&O, Smelter, Sentinels, the Chariot, Darklurker, Ancient Dragon, the DLC bosses (both games)?
SlasherJPC
Banned
Honestly that sounds about right. The classes just lump your points into other areas of your abilities. Otherwise every class can use any weapons or armor they receive.
Story isn't amazing but it's there and the game sorta guides you. A bit more in depth then Dark Souls. I think most will be satisfied with what is there seeing as the Souls series is pretty much cryptic as shit when it comes to the story.
Hopefully those will be fixed with the day 1 patch. Anything about the framerate? What someone else said was really alarming. 15-20 FPS?
The issues with text appearing, dissapearing enemies, quest items, etc. Didn't happen to me in all my time with the Xbox One version. Only thing is the framerate and tearing moments. Also clipping of some stuff on the character, etc.
Here's the thing about people not liking the fact that it's a dark souls clone. I actually welcome that. Main reason? I want more Souls-like games. We have tons of FPS, tons of action games, tons of stealth games. But we don't really have many Souls-like games, unless you count Monster Hunter in that category. I welcome another developer taking a stab at it outside of FROM. Then again, I'll reserve my judgment until I actually play it tomorrow, but I am pumped for it.
Same here. I have seen enough to know that I will have fun with the gameplay and gearing up.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I always appreciate when people actually watch gameplay, ask themselves if it looks fun to them, and use their own thoughts to play a game before judging it. Whenever you see postive posts on a game, versus the negative. The negative seem to really sway people which is weird cause you know opinions and stuff.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
The story is no way more in-depth than in Dark Souls, it just gets shoved in your face all the time.
The script is laughable, really. "What are you doing here!?" "I'm here to kill a Lord." "Good luck with that!", etc.
This game has stuff like a female character that desperately needs stone slabs to translate an ancient text that is the key to her survival, but when you want to give her all those slabs later on, she forgets all about them and you don't even get the option to give them or throw them away. Then there was this sidequest that had me collect a bunch of human tattoos, and I completed them before even finding them all even though the character specifically told me to find them all. So, so bad.
I played as a warrior, by the way. I'm not keen on magic, and I play my Dark Souls builds as Strength or Dex.
The framerate wasn't exactly smooth, but I'm not someone who gets too fuzzed about these sort of things, anyway. Mechanics and level design are way more important to me.
Look, I WANTED to love this. This game has been on my radar since Gamescom 2013. I've met the devs twice, I raved over the demo builds they let me play, etc. But the full game infuriated me, simple as. I can't lie to my readers.
The script is laughable, really. "What are you doing here!?" "I'm here to kill a Lord." "Good luck with that!", etc.
This game has stuff like a female character that desperately needs stone slabs to translate an ancient text that is the key to her survival, but when you want to give her all those slabs later on, she forgets all about them and you don't even get the option to give them or throw them away. Then there was this sidequest that had me collect a bunch of human tattoos, and I completed them before even finding them all even though the character specifically told me to find them all. So, so bad.
I played as a warrior, by the way. I'm not keen on magic, and I play my Dark Souls builds as Strength or Dex.
The framerate wasn't exactly smooth, but I'm not someone who gets too fuzzed about these sort of things, anyway. Mechanics and level design are way more important to me.
Look, I WANTED to love this. This game has been on my radar since Gamescom 2013. I've met the devs twice, I raved over the demo builds they let me play, etc. But the full game infuriated me, simple as. I can't lie to my readers.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I'm sure your motives are pure and different games click differently for different people. I don't think our tastes are similar though. You liked Lords of Shadows 2 more than Lords of Shadows 1 and I thought the second game was utter garbage though I loved the first.
Diablohead
Member
I'm excited to play the game but some things I noticed from streams which I wish really were a lot better:
NPC's just stand around like they are stuck to the ground, no one really moves. Some of them ask you to find someone hoping their ok, two corners away there's dead bodies and a monster... it's like no one can bother looking themselves.
two NPC's were talking to each other, you walk away and they suddenly stop talking, walking back to them repeats the lines from the beginning and it sounds really unnatural.
You can't seem to kill anyone but enemies, would have been nice to kill a knight and start a riot or fight to mix things up, too much work and story I guess.
You can refill potion bottles way too often and easily.
NPC's just stand around like they are stuck to the ground, no one really moves. Some of them ask you to find someone hoping their ok, two corners away there's dead bodies and a monster... it's like no one can bother looking themselves.
two NPC's were talking to each other, you walk away and they suddenly stop talking, walking back to them repeats the lines from the beginning and it sounds really unnatural.
You can't seem to kill anyone but enemies, would have been nice to kill a knight and start a riot or fight to mix things up, too much work and story I guess.
You can refill potion bottles way too often and easily.
Well, the story approach in the game is supposed to be hand-fed. Some people will like it and some don't. It's hardly the main appeal of the game. Not sure what to say about the side-quest, maybe it was optional to find all of them or you missed the timeframe to do it? Sure they could've worded it better. Not sure if the 5gb patch is fixing that.
But warrior is the easiest way to play the game. People go into this thinking it's gonna be Souls-like difficulty. Not ever have they said that. They've said the game will be challenging, but definitely not as hard as Souls. And that is by design. But it's obvious you didn't like it very much, but 5/10 is like the worst game ever made with todays review scores, and I have such a hard time believing that from all the streamer-impressions. Have you tried the NG+ or going as Rogue? How is the difficulty then?
Yea looking at his post history... I'm gonna wait for more impressions.
Same here. While I enjoyed the 30-40 hours I put into DS1, the constant 'gotchas' are what made me put the controller down.
It sounds like this game tones it down quite a bit.
cleveridea
Member
Jimmyfenix
Member
Slasher said above there is framerate and tearing moments on xbox one as well.
Alcoholikaust
Member
the screen tearing was an issue with their video capture
edit:not saying its gone- but the retail copy I was playing yesterday was improved over what this video shows
They said it was the capturing equipment, I guess we will see.
"VideoGamerTV vor 1 Monat (
Apologies for the screen tearing. That appears to have been an issue with our recording setup, although we haven't encountered that before. FRUSTRATING.
Hope you like the format of this video regardless!"
in the comments
Jeronimo Jones
Member
I appreciate these impressions and am approaching this game with caution. It seems like something I would like based on articles and videos I've seen, but I can wait a few days for more impressions/reviews. I hope the technical issues are isolated and fixed with the day 1 patch.
From my perspective, the Souls games are good, but there's room for similar games.
From my perspective, the Souls games are good, but there's room for similar games.
This is a game that not everyone is going to enjoy, but for the people that do enjoy it I think it does a good job of scratching that itch. I have been playing the PS4 version and find that I do enjoy it a decent amount. I don't care for the story, there are a lot of little issues that bother me, but the standard gameplay (movement, combat and rpg elements) are what I really care about and while nothing is revolutionary it's a fun enough game to get me to sit down and play.
As for the screen tearing, without the day 1 patch it's ridiculously bad, like seriously don't play the PS4 version without that patch. With the patch it's still there and I notice it but not in every area so I find that it doesn't kill the game for me (but it will probably drive people who are sensitive to this stuff crazy.) There is another patch in the works that further addresses the tearing but I wouldn't bet on it being 100% gone.
As for the screen tearing, without the day 1 patch it's ridiculously bad, like seriously don't play the PS4 version without that patch. With the patch it's still there and I notice it but not in every area so I find that it doesn't kill the game for me (but it will probably drive people who are sensitive to this stuff crazy.) There is another patch in the works that further addresses the tearing but I wouldn't bet on it being 100% gone.