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Lost Winds (WiiWare) = instabuy
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Alaluef said:Just a Frontier fan that did a quick google stalking after you posted.
Glad to have you here. Congrats to you guys for making such a lovable game!
OoooOO, okies. Well yeah, I didn't work on LostWinds, but I know the guys are overjoyed with the response that it's been getting <3. I'll pass on your message to them *nods*.
TheGrayGhost
Banned
Laeth said:
Do you happen to know what results from finding all 24 of the items scattered across Mistralis?
TheGrayGhost said:
AFAIK they are just there to encourage people to explore all the different areas; they're to let completionists know they have visted and explored every area.
Alaleuf said:
I'm not commenting on anything else; having worked in Community Management, I know when to keep my mouth shut. Muahahaha.
The only real gripe I have with the GameSpot review is that attacking it for its length seems odd. What were you expecting from a $10 game? I suppose it gets back to the Calling All Cars! review that GameSpot did. What's the right amount of content for downloadable games? I think some reviewers are still struggling with how to approach that question.
I completely disagree with Gigglepoo on the audio/video presentation, but hell, those are completely subjective and he feels what he feels. Life goes on!
I completely disagree with Gigglepoo on the audio/video presentation, but hell, those are completely subjective and he feels what he feels. Life goes on!
If you've already gotten thejarosh said:
chest in the abandoned village, you might be stuck in a sequence-breaking bug. But from what I recall, to get to the chest above wither falls, go to where Deo is, then I think just keep to the high roads as you go left. There's a spot where you may have seen before with a long vertical shaft you passed under, when you reach this shaft after getting the cape, the game will remind you how to use your cape, that's how you know you're in the right area.
ArtG said:
It is difficult to determine value based on game length - that's one of the reasons I didn't dwell on LostWinds taking me only 3 hours to finish. It's only brought up two times in my review. It's listed in The Bad so people know right away that this is a 3 hour game. If they don't care about length, they can remove that from my complaints. The only other time I brought it up was in my paragraph about presentation when I said, "It's a shame that half of this three-hour adventure takes place in the dank underbelly of this fantastic little village."
The length did not figure prominently in my review score. But, as a comparison, the last game I reviewed was Assault Heroes 2. It is also $10 but it took about 10 hours to finish the single player campaign. Usually, I would rather have a short game that never loses focus rather than one that artificially extends the experience by adding unnecessary quests. I just don't think LostWinds provided an amazing 3 hour experience.
ArtG said:
That's the spirit! I made sure to include a screenshot from the pretty sections and one from the, um, less pretty sections in my review so people could judge for themselves.
TheOneGuy said:
No offense taken. I've heard far worse things directed at me because of this review. Someone on another board said I should go back to playing 'roided up FPS! Ugh... I hope people don't get the impression I like crap because LostWinds didn't tickle my fancy.
RumblingRosco
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Gigglepoo said:
The only impression you gave me is that your opinion on games is so much different from mine that I'll likely ignore future reviews from you. Not that your writing or explanations were bad, but you seem to have much different standards for what makes a game good from my own, and that doesn't help me figure out if I'll like a game.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
well, you review does raise the question 'what (the fuck) does the review consider a worthy wiiware game?'. apparently LW met (or even overshot) most people's expectations, whereas in your case it was the opposite. so out of curiosity, what kind of LW-style production would've earned a, say, 8+ from you?Gigglepoo said:
Gigglepoo said:
Definitely true. I much prefer tighter experience. There's less chance for hitting a string of fluff quests that kill a game's flow. Thanks for clarifying. Good review, even though I disagree. I gave it an 8 in a user review I posted at GameSpot.
Well, I see that as one of the hurdles that gaming "journalism" needs to jump over. And it doesn't really have a lot to do with the journalists themselves, per se, but the audience that reads them. It seems like some readers take personal offense when I reviewer sees a game differently than them, and then usually attack the reviewer personally because of it. So, on one hand, you've potentially got PR breathing down your necks, and then some readers joining in on that mess. I'd be interested to hear how that can effect your mindset when you're going into a review. Obviously, you're not going to give a game a score you don't think it deserves; but at the end of the day, reader reaction is something that is in the back of your mind, is it not?
blu said:
LostWinds had three problems that combined to make the experience less than entertaining for me. The ease of the puzzles combined with the oftentimes drab environments and sleepy music made the game kind of boring. I usually don't require challenge in my games, but everything just kind of combined to put me in a stupor. I hope the sequel is longer (5 hours would be nice) with a few really challenging puzzles thrown into the mix. A few different musical tracks and more focus on beautiful (instead of the underground) environments would make me quite pleased.
As I said, I think it's brimming with potential, but they just didn't live up to it.
ArtG said:
I can't worry about what other people may think of the game or my review. If I start trying to please everyone, I won't please anyone and my reviews will be completely worthless (though I'm sure some people already think that). If I could go back to change anything, I would make sure people know that I love 2D platformers above all else and this just missed the boat for me. Other than that, I think I did a good job explaining why I didn't enjoy LostWinds so other people could determine whether or not they would be interested.
NakedCosmonaut
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Bought it yesterday, it's a nice little game, I quite like the controls. I was inspired to do fanart even.
NakedCosmonaut
Member
Alaluef said:
I do, but I only have one picture in there, and it's from... 2004 I think. Anyway, thanks for the comments. BTRA: here's a full-size version
AgentOtaku
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Nice smooth process and downloaded really fast!
....doing my part!
....doing my part!
Well, I had to clear out my Wii for this. When I downloaded the Nintendo channel the other day, it said I would have 260 blocks free, but it was actually around 200 it seems. So that's Starfox 64 and my NES games onto the SD card now. So much for me being worried that 48 channel spaces wouldn't be enough for VC, I've got 17 spare. Absolutely terrible decision by Nintendo. They need to either let you load VC titles off the SD card (as they can't be guaranteed on the speeds, presumably they could just pre-load them into RAM, similar to the Gamecube Master Quest disc) or release some kind of external storage device, it's getting ridiculous.
Anyway, I wasn't sure about this but figured it was only $10 so why not? Absolutely love it! The style is great, the music is nice and laid back, and it isn't punishing at all.
My only real complaint is that it was popping up tutorials on how to do things after I had already done them, both early on and near the end of the game. Finished it in just under 3 hours (2:56) and I don't feel cheated at all. Seems like the perfect price for a game as good as this.
If you liked Super Metroid, Knytt, ICO etc, you should just buy it without thinking. It reminds me of all of these games, in a good way.
Very glad to hear that there's a sequel in development, looking forward to it! Hopefully we'll see some different environments. Not that the ones in this weren't good, but I'd like to see some variety.
Anyway, I wasn't sure about this but figured it was only $10 so why not? Absolutely love it!
The style is great, the music is nice and laid back, and it isn't punishing at all.My only real complaint is that it was popping up tutorials on how to do things after I had already done them, both early on and near the end of the game. Finished it in just under 3 hours (2:56) and I don't feel cheated at all. Seems like the perfect price for a game as good as this.
If you liked Super Metroid, Knytt, ICO etc, you should just buy it without thinking. It reminds me of all of these games, in a good way.
Very glad to hear that there's a sequel in development, looking forward to it! Hopefully we'll see some different environments. Not that the ones in this weren't good, but I'd like to see some variety.
LW is definitely one of the best WiiWare games out now.
The game is more of Ico in platforming, but the control method is very unique and is only possible with the Wii.
The art style of the game is just so beautiful and the background music is just luscious.
The game definitely has its own issues due to backtracking and some glitches, but overeall, the game is a must if you're a fan of any of this game:
* Platformers
* Puzzles
* Ico
* Portal
It doesn't hurt it's only $10 anyway.
The game is more of Ico in platforming, but the control method is very unique and is only possible with the Wii.
The art style of the game is just so beautiful and the background music is just luscious.
The game definitely has its own issues due to backtracking and some glitches, but overeall, the game is a must if you're a fan of any of this game:
* Platformers
* Puzzles
* Ico
* Portal
It doesn't hurt it's only $10 anyway.
NakedCosmonaut
Member
Ah, sorry, try this oneblu said:
To Frontier: Since there is someone, if not multiple people that worked on the game in this thread, I just want to say directly to you that it's fantastic and I loved it. I really hope the Gamespot review doesn't deter a lot of people from playing the game. Gigglepoo, I honestly wonder if you have issues with the controller you used or the area it was in (light interference), because I never had those problems with the game (wind blowing the wrong way or difficulty picking up objects). Anyway, back to Frontier. The game is gorgeous and all that, but more importantly, I really think the mechanics you use make the game really fun to play as well as the Metroid-style progression. It works so beautifully and I can't wait to see what the sequel and future Frontier games bring. The presentation really brings a lot of immersion to the game, too.
Keep up the good work, guys!
Keep up the good work, guys!
I will defend GigglePoo on this one. We for so long are used to 8 - 10 scores for games even crap ones we have forgoten what numbers mean. A 5 is an average game not a garbage game. 7+ means we are starting to see more magical things.
While I agree the game should have a higher score, because I'm yet to play it I wont say much.
While I agree the game should have a higher score, because I'm yet to play it I wont say much.
Meta-Knight
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Gigglepoo said:
Mmm.. for me, art and presentation were a big plus in this game, especially for a downloadable game. I love how the game looks, and I also love the music (even though more songs would've been nice). Beside of it, most Wii games look very bland and uninspired.
Dragmire said:
I'll echo this one. I'm definitely interested to see how the next one turns out. If anyone missed it, Jeff Green from 1UP gave it a B. I guess I'm the only one who didn't really dig the game. Oh well, it's why there are so many reviewers on the internets. Gotta get every possible opinion covered, right?
trinest said:
Thanks, I am a reviewer who not only uses the whole scale, but thinks 5 represents an average game. Compared to other platformers, I thought LostWinds was slightly above average. That's not a bad thing.
I think DS could have handled this control method more effectively and accurately. That said, as a retail release it wouldn't be long enough for the price, and the developer would have had to eat the cost of production, so WiiWare was probably the necessary vehicle here.Arde5643 said:
evilchicken
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Has anyone figured out what collecting all 24 wind idols does? I have 23 and I want to know if it's worth hunting down the last one.
Gigglepoo said:
But did you compare it with $50-$60 platformers? I don't think that's fair. Obviously Lostwinds isn't going to stack up to say Mario Galaxy, that is why it is priced the way it is. I definitely think there should be different review standards for the 2. If Lostwinds were $50, I still would have disagreed with your review but I would acknowledge you had some valid points, especially with game length. Not so much with a $10 game.