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LTTP: Bloodborne

Man i should really just restart that game. I got half way through my ng plus run but got stuck on
shadows of yarnham
. Two runs of ds3 later and i feel like im ready to go back
 
The difficulty of the bosses are subjective. I remember people complaining about
Dark Beast Paarl
when the game first came out and I beat him on my first try at level 33.

BSB was two tries for me and (DLC boss)
Ludwig
as well.

Honestly I found Mr. Flies-around-and-shoots-you-with-a-billion-swords-on-a-snowy-rooftop the hardest :P

That guy was straight up a Kingdom Hearts boss.

Yeah, that guy and especially lady snail-butterfly were the hardest for me. But I know there's a lot of people that find BSB a terrible pain in the ass.
 
I would argue there is no tutorial area in the game, and if anything the end of the "tutorial" area would be the bridge since you need to fight the cleric beast to unlock leveling up.

You actually don't, there's a Madman's knowledge in the sewers, guarded by some rats.
 
You actually don't, there's a Madman's knowledge in the sewers, guarded by some rats.

Wait, insight it's what triggers leveling?

Huh, didn't realize, i found (and killed) the cleric beast before venturing into the sewer, so i had not gotten any insight prior to that and assumed the boss encounter was what triggered leveling up rather than the insight.
 
I would argue there is no tutorial area in the game, and if anything the end of the "tutorial" area would be the bridge since you need to fight the cleric beast to unlock leveling up.

That's fine. I just feel Central Yharnam presents the enemy variety that effectively teaches the combat mechanics the player can lean on throughout the rest of the game.

And Cleric Beast is completely optional.
 
It definitely ranks as one of my favourite games ever. I was just in awe of its brilliance the whole way through. The world and the atmosphere just sucked me in like no game has since maybe Metroid Prime.

Miyazaki and his team are incredibly talented.
 
You have one of two options:

A) Start over with all the knowledge you have gained up to this point and then summon someone in and get the job done.

B) Try and get the boss beat yourself.

If you decide option A, hit me up. I love co-op in this game.

Edit: Further clarification below.

There's a madman's knowledge in a chest hanging around the area before you reach cleric beast. That will allow leveling before hitting the boss.

That being said, Getting the armor set hanging out in the sewers does a lot for defense before running into that fight.
 
I'm another new player having picked up the GotY edition a couple weeks ago.

Currently nearing the end of the main game and ready to dive into the DLC before the last two fights.

Now, with the wealth of DLC weapons, I'm undecided on what to use. I'm currently 40 STR 40 SKL, basically just benefitting Ludwig's. Am I currently locked out of using different types of weapons? I really like the idea of Rakuyo, yet it seems a weapon one should have dumped everything into skill for. Also, what I read seems to put emphasis on it being a PVP weapon. What are your experiences with it in PVE?
 
I have Dark Souls 1 on steam, Bloodborne GOTY edition, and I plan on getting Witcher 3 GOTY in the next steam sale. In what order do I play. I'm itching to play Bloodborne, but I don't want it to ruin my experience playing Dark Souls. As for Witcher 3, I hated the combat and inventory in 2 and I don't want the combat gameplay in the other games to ruin the experience playing Witcher 3.

Any suggestions?
 
Wait, insight it's what triggers leveling?

Huh, didn't realize, i found (and killed) the cleric beast before venturing into the sewer, so i had not gotten any insight prior to that and assumed the boss encounter was what triggered leveling up rather than the insight.

Yeah your first point of Insight triggers the doll waking up.
 
Wait, insight it's what triggers leveling?

Huh, didn't realize, i found (and killed) the cleric beast before venturing into the sewer, so i had not gotten any insight prior to that and assumed the boss encounter was what triggered leveling up rather than the insight.

If you spend all your insight the doll becomes immobile again. However, you can still level up from her.
 
Tips for first boss.
  • You can dodge through his swipes. Dodge behind him. Don't be afraid to be aggressive but save some stamina to dodge.
  • There is a free set of armor in the sewers you can get that helps with defense. Otherwise you could buy the one in the hunter's dream.

I'm another new player having picked up the GotY edition a couple weeks ago.

Currently nearing the end of the main game and ready to dive into the DLC before the last two fights.

Now, with the wealth of DLC weapons, I'm undecided on what to use. I'm currently 40 STR 40 SKL, basically just benefitting Ludwig's. Am I currently locked out of using different types of weapons? I really like the idea of Rakuyo, yet it seems a weapon one should have dumped everything into skill for. Also, what I read seems to put emphasis on it being a PVP weapon. What are your experiences with it in PVE?

The shit response is that all weapons are viable if you know what you're doing... In terms of damage, you might not hit as hard as ludwigs. Few weapons can. However if you upgrade the weapons and gem them you can clear enemies with ease. It is just a matter of learning the timing and movesets.
I like to take weapons I am interested in but inexperienced with through the early chalice dungeons since they start off so easy I don't need to upgrade to have them work it also makes the early bosses marginally less of a snorefest. For later chalices it is still fun though I generally keep something else in the second slot that i can fall back to.
 
What was your strategy on beating cleric the first go?
Used my stock of Molotovs (probably about 5 at that point,) kept my distance, completely ignored parrying, wailed on him with the Hunter Axe. Totally almost died, and ran through all 20 blood vials. Also cursed out the terrible camera, and wondered if that alone would put me off of the game.

I was also playing visa Remote Play to a Mac laptop, so maybe that made me play safer / more conservatively, since I knew there would be some lag?

Impossible.~How the hell did you do it? I almost throwed my PS4 from the window trying to kill that |@#|@€|#

I knew that poison was a big part of that fight, so I bought the Gascoigne set. Other than that, similar to the Cleric: kept a bit of distance, and punished the hell out of it (using the Kirkhammer) when it missed. Actually parried in this fight, but only for the final blow.
 
It's definitely a good game. Glad to hear you're enjoying it.

I still really hate the blood vial system though.
 
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I joined the party.

Probably a weird question, but what kind of car is that?
 
I have Dark Souls 1 on steam, Bloodborne GOTY edition, and I plan on getting Witcher 3 GOTY in the next steam sale. In what order do I play. I'm itching to play Bloodborne, but I don't want it to ruin my experience playing Dark Souls. As for Witcher 3, I hated the combat and inventory in 2 and I don't want the combat gameplay in the other games to ruin the experience playing Witcher 3.

Any suggestions?

Bloodborne would be nothing without its challenging bosses, while Wicher 3 could live without any fighting at all, and run purely on story and characters. Honestly never understood why the two games are ever compared.
 
I have Dark Souls 1 on steam, Bloodborne GOTY edition, and I plan on getting Witcher 3 GOTY in the next steam sale. In what order do I play. I'm itching to play Bloodborne, but I don't want it to ruin my experience playing Dark Souls. As for Witcher 3, I hated the combat and inventory in 2 and I don't want the combat gameplay in the other games to ruin the experience playing Witcher 3.

Any suggestions?

Try The Witcher 3 first because the controls were what I had the biggest problem with. If you're fine with them then keep on playing. I would do Dark Souls next then Bloodborne since there are important differences between Dark Souls and Bloodborne that people don't immediately realize if they go from Bloodborne to Dark Souls. Poise as a mechanic is one of those things. With high enough poise in Dark Souls some enemies don't stagger you so certain boss fights are trivialized. But regardless of the armor you wear in Bloodborne, any enemy attack can stagger you in that game. Poise isn't a factor in deciding which armor you wear.

Bloodborne would be nothing without its challenging bosses, while Wicher 3 could live without any fighting at all, and run purely on story and characters. Honestly never understood why the two games are ever compared.

Riiiiiight.
 
Bloodborne would be nothing without its challenging bosses, while Wicher 3 could live without any fighting at all, and run purely on story and characters. Honestly never understood why the two games are ever compared.

This ... I've seen a lot of things said about W3, good and bad, but this may be the single worst opinion I've seen on it yet.

Purely on story and characters?

Waaat?
 
This ... I've seen a lot of things said about W3, good and bad, but this may be the single worst opinion I've seen on it yet.

Purely on story and characters?

Waaat?

distinct exaggeration, obviously theres more to bloodborne than bosses, and more to W3 than its writing. But the games cearly focus on very different things to the point where the bloodborne vs witcher3 comparisons make very little sense.
 
Currently going through it again on NG+. No weapon clicks for me quite like the Axe does, the move set and range are amazing. I really wanted to like Ludwig's Blade, but it just doesn't compare to that Axe move set. I was considering picking up Dark Souls II remastered for PS4 next, even though a lot of fans seem to think it sucks. It's not that bad, is it?
 
I joined the party.
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Great game, but a bit on the obscure side. Couldn't get pass the first boss without a guide.
. I was considering picking up Dark Souls II remastered for PS4 next, even though a lot of fans seem to think it sucks. It's not that bad, is it?
I loved DSII and I'm not a Soulsborne fan. Great game with a very real Castlevania vibe, specially the later parts. I recomend it 100%. Never played the expansion though.
 
Nah, you can find them in the sewers.

It's weird going back to this after spending so long away. Wasn't there supposed to be some type of Return To Yarnham event as well?
Yup first area. All the speed runners grab that and use it.

Love BB. Only regret is I can't experience for the first time ever again.
 
distinct exaggeration, obviously theres more to bloodborne than bosses, and more to W3 than its writing. But the games cearly focus on very different things to the point where the bloodborne vs witcher3 comparisons make very little sense.

yeah they are different games and scratch different itches.

However I'm not sure you are giving Bloodborne enough credit for its story. The style of story telling is more show and not tell, a masterclass on how to present a story to the player. A lot of the story is not explained to the player but if they are observant and piece all the elements together like dialogue, environment, items, weapons, enemies and NPCs you get a very deep and interesting story about the Bloodborne world.
 
Wait, insight it's what triggers leveling?

Huh, didn't realize, i found (and killed) the cleric beast before venturing into the sewer, so i had not gotten any insight prior to that and assumed the boss encounter was what triggered leveling up rather than the insight.

Yeah, I read online that you have to kill the cleric beast to level up, so I spent about 30 minutes fighting him before I could finally do that. Locking leveling up behind a boss (or in this case, getting a piece of Insight) is dumb as hell though, and one of the problems I have with the game.
 
Bloodborne would be nothing without its challenging bosses, while Wicher 3 could live without any fighting at all, and run purely on story and characters. Honestly never understood why the two games are ever compared.

LOL, there is a heck of a lot more to BB then it's bosses, are you for real? The Level/world design, art direction, exploration, enemy designs, mechanics are all top tier for the industry. Maybe just stick to the witcher books then?

There is also a lot more lore and story in BB then you clearly are aware of.
 
Yeah, I read online that you have to kill the cleric beast to level up, so I spent about 30 minutes fighting him before I could finally do that. Locking leveling up behind a boss (or in this case, getting a piece of Insight) is dumb as hell though, and one of the problems I have with the game.

Thats wrong. You get an insight from meeting the boss and keep it regardless if you kill the boss or not. You can get it from Cleric Beast or Father G.
 
Yeah, I read online that you have to kill the cleric beast to level up, so I spent about 30 minutes fighting him before I could finally do that. Locking leveling up behind a boss (or in this case, getting a piece of Insight) is dumb as hell though, and one of the problems I have with the game.

Don't believe everything you hear from the internet.
 
For anyone that listens to gaming podcasts that is looking for a group as passionate about Bloodborne as Gaf is, I highly recommend the Bonfireside Chat podcast. Been listening to the episodes about Bloodborne and they add a ton of perspective and analysis to the storyline that never occurred to me...
 
I got a PS4 last month and got BB GOTY. I played through the DLC last year on a friend's ps4 with him, but never got to play the entire game by myself. I just beat
Ebrietas
on my first try, and I don't even fucking know if it's just that I'm gud or I got lucky or some shit, but my hands are a puddle.
This game ties with DS1 and Persona 4 for my GOATs

EDIT: Bloodborne beats Dark Souls because of the story, I'm in love with
the tone shift, Eldritch shit is life. Also I've always been a fan of "woops we saw something that we weren't supposed to and now we fucked up" in stories.
 
OP don't skip Dark Souls 2 just 'coz people bitched, it's still an amazing game albeit with some issues. The SOTFS version of DS2 is probably my favourite Dark Souls and it's great on PS4, smooth frame rate and all. A few of bosses in the DLC areas are some of the best bosses I've ever fought.

That said, Bloodborne is GOAT. Enjoy it.
 
I knew that poison was a big part of that fight, so I bought the Gascoigne set. Other than that, similar to the Cleric: kept a bit of distance, and punished the hell out of it (using the Kirkhammer) when it missed. Actually parried in this fight, but only for the final blow.

I beat BSB on the first try too, but I didn't know shit and just face-tanked the whole thing.

I stayed in melee range the entire time and bodied that fool he was easy.

Slaughtered the first prey, not before escaping a deadly pig. Fucking terrifying, holy fuck!

Holy fuck this game is too good. It's better than I expected, I love it. The world is so scary and beautiful to explore and I'm finally getting the hang of leveling and improving weapons. Love this

It only gets better from here, the world and leveling and weapons all improve on such a satisfying path. Especially the exploration. The world is so well designed.
 
Slaughtered the first prey, not before escaping a deadly pig. Fucking terrifying, holy fuck!

Holy fuck this game is too good. It's better than I expected, I love it. The world is so scary and beautiful to explore and I'm finally getting the hang of leveling and improving weapons. Love this
 
Slaughtered the first prey, not before escaping a deadly pig. Fucking terrifying, holy fuck!

Holy fuck this game is too good. It's better than I expected, I love it. The world is so scary and beautiful to explore and I'm finally getting the hang of leveling and improving weapons. Love this
I think you missed an optional prey before that.
 
Slaughtered the first prey, not before escaping a deadly pig. Fucking terrifying, holy fuck!

Holy fuck this game is too good. It's better than I expected, I love it. The world is so scary and beautiful to explore and I'm finally getting the hang of leveling and improving weapons. Love this

You are in for a treat OP, seriously. Central Yharnam is a fantastic starting area but barely scratches the surface of what that game has to offer.
 
Slaughtered the first prey, not before escaping a deadly pig. Fucking terrifying, holy fuck!

Holy fuck this game is too good. It's better than I expected, I love it. The world is so scary and beautiful to explore and I'm finally getting the hang of leveling and improving weapons. Love this
The Cleric Beast's shriek will stay with me my whole life.
 
So for some reasons i had to let the game rest a bit and i restarted to play it two days ago. Yesterday i beat the
blood starved beast
. But just before i wanted to see if i could beat the
hunter that fires on you with the machine gun il old Yarnahm
but he felt from the building and the loot was unreachable :/

And is there an interest to gain insight, i read that the game becore more difficult with more insight is that true ?
 
The Cleric Beast's shriek will stay with me my whole life.

isnt that the same scream every single boss makes? they got a lot of mileage out of whoever did that VA (vicar amelia, blood starved beast, ludwig, maybe even orphan of kos etc)
some of them were super obnoxious with their screeching, but none were as awful as the crows sound
 
So for some reasons i had to let the game rest a bit and i restarted to play it two days ago. Yesterday i beat the
blood starved beast
. But just before i wanted to see if i could beat the
hunter that fires on you with the machine gun il old Yarnahm
but he felt from the building and the loot was unreachable :/

And is there an interest to gain insight, i read that the game becore more difficult with more insight is that true ?

Reload the game and climb back up the ladder to where he was. The loot will be at the top there waiting for you. You also want that loot as it allows you to buy one of the best weapons in the game (
the stake driver
) from the messengers.
 
Reload the game and climb back up the ladder to where he was. The loot will be at the top there waiting for you. You also want that loot as it allows you to buy one of the best weapons in the game (
the stake driver
) from the messengers.

Oh cool thanks for the info !
 
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