Ive never seen people wearing campaign buttons in their avatar saying we believe in Yosp.
You clearly weren't in the 2013 PlayStation E3 thread then.
Ive never seen people wearing campaign buttons in their avatar saying we believe in Yosp.
Cerny*You mean like people worship Shu?
How did you know Spencer is not involved at the beginning?
It may help Microsoft that many of the faces associated with Xbox Ones bungled beginnings are also now gone. Don Mattrick, former president of Microsofts Interactive Entertainment Business (the division responsible for Xbox), quit to go work at Zynga. CEO Steve Ballmer has retired. And on the eve of GDC, chief product officer Marc Whitten left to take up the same position at wireless audio leader Sonos. Microsoft has a new CEO, Satya Nadella, and IEB has a new president in former Nokia CEO Stephen Elop, but Molyneux believes that the most significant departure of them all will be Whittens.
He was very influential, Molyneux explains. Perhaps more than you realise, because he was in charge of all of the software the operating system side. A lot of the things Phil Spencers group wanted to do, quite often they didnt happen because they werent implemented on the operating system side. Him leaving softens quite a few lines.
It leaves Harrison and Spencer as the public faces of Xbox, and being able to put two execs with extensive experience of the game industry in front of press, players and creators will surely help with image repair. Epic CEO Tim Sweeney says the two Phils have done a great job of opening up to the community and talking as real human beings about Microsofts plans, and thats a really welcome change from what was previously a very PR-driven company. Im very hopeful Microsoft is getting through this long winter of mismanagement. It came from the top, despite the best efforts of the guys in the trenches, and Im hopeful theyll do a lot of good things.
You mean like people worship Shu?
Double Irony?
Every single time a Phil Spencer thread shows up, we get the "HE WAS IN THE BOARD ROOM TOO!" schtick. And to me, anyone who uses that line of reasoning, clearly has very little, if any idea what actually goes on in corporate business planning meetings. Like, literally. None.
Because if you did, you'd understand what it'd be like to disagree with leadership decisions but still continue to do your job because you hope that you can affect change in the future. Was Spencer supposed to quit? You think there were others at Xbox who might've have disagreed with the direction MS was originally going with the Xbox One? Should they have quit? I'm sure some did, but you don't just bail on something because you can't have your way with a project. They teach this stuff in basic leadership courses for crying out loud.
MS wasn't committing war crimes or human rights violations here, but you'd swear by some of the rhetoric some posters use that they were.
And you think that Sony's position with #4TheGamers isn't an "act"? Do you honestly believe businesses are your friends? Because corporations aren't real people, my "friend".
Yeah because him says so, how he can lie? Such pure soul. He has nice talks, but he is in charge to change, he can't say otherwise.
Why do you think Phil Spencer would not have done the exact same thing as Mattrick. It's very easy for him to say they would have done something different since they now see the results of their poor choices.
Microsoft has always had a 3 screen strategy - mobile, tv & computer. The current xbox one was designed around that strategy. It is the reason they had to have 8 gigs of ram, which resulted in DDR3, which necessitated the embedded ram, which had the consequence of using DIE space taking away from a better GPU.
Kinect was a mistake, one which most likely pushed by Mattrick, but the home living room, multiple OS xbox one is what Microsoft wanted and what you would have received with Phil Spencer.
I'll avoid the obvious temptation to just post "triple irony?" here and just say that I think you're probably a tad too emotionally invested here.
Cerny*
Remember those bathtub posts?
What the... Wut? Because I said something of negative about him?We get it. You don't like Microsoft.
pls go.
I like Spencer a lot. I forgot the interview, but it was sometime during E3 and he stated that he owned an XBox One, PS4, and Wii U. Said he's a gamer first, but loves the competition.
He got dealt a bad hand in dealing w/ the Xbox One PR nightmare, but he's turned the brand around at a fast rate.
TBH Phil talks a good talk whereas Shu has walked the walk..
Seems like a really good guy - sad that there's a lot of cynical people automatically assuming that just because he has a high level job that he is just saying what everyone wants to hear.
Ive never seen people wearing campaign buttons in their avatar saying we believe in Yosp.
I don't see what's that great about him. It's not as if he hasn't made some shitty decisions during his time in charge of Xbone.
I don't know, the Kaz/Shu/Mark Cerny stuff seems far above the Spensor stuff. The Cerny bathtub shit along trumps anything I've seen.. outside of Gabe-love. The last time MS had a exec that was popular with fans was Allard.
lol at some point am worried people will start worshiping him
Shu is just too good ^_^
Did Cerny reach god state yet? or he is still a demi-god?
Shu's one word PR is working as good as ever
humble as always Shu
We need Cerny in the mix listening to Kaz nice speech lacks Cerny soothing voice
Why do you think Phil Spencer would not have done the exact same thing as Mattrick. It's very easy for him to say they would have done something different since they now see the results of their poor choices.
I don't know, the Kaz/Shu/Mark Cerny stuff seems far above the Spensor stuff. The Cerny bathtub shit along trumps anything I've seen.. outside of Gabe-love. The last time MS had a exec that was popular with fans was Allard.
Yeah I like him alot. Every time I hear him speak it makes me want an Xbox One but then I remember that I own a PS4 and most games will be the same That controller though. . .
Oh shit lol.uh-huh.
What the... Wut? Because I said something of negative about him?
You mean like people worship Shu?
How long has been managing Rare and Lionhead?
To be completely honest, both are probably true.
As an exec, you toe the company line, unfavorable decisions you made (indie parity, IP ownership), etc. Most interviews with high-level execs have them being very careful with what they say. Some people frame it in a very professional manner(House/Mattrick), some in a jovial manner (Shu), and some in a more passionate manner (Phil), but behind their presentation... they all say the same things.
That doesn't somehow prevent Spencer from being a good guy. It's just that he's chosen to be less nice in some regards compared to other folk for the sake of business/company. It's the same on the other side of the court, really.
uh-huh.
Yes it's a good guy BUT this good guy has worked secretly to buy exclusive for games initially announced multiplatform. He is good just if you buy his product.To be completely honest, both are probably true.
As an exec, you toe the company line, unfavorable decisions you made (indie parity, IP ownership), etc. Most interviews with high-level execs have them being very careful with what they say. Some people frame it in a very professional manner(House/Mattrick), some in a jovial manner (Shu), and some in a more passionate manner (Phil), but behind their presentation... they all say the same things.
That doesn't somehow prevent Spencer from being a good guy. It's just that he's chosen to be less nice in some regards compared to other folk for the sake of business/company. It's the same on the other side of the court, really.
uh-huh.
uh-huh.
Oh God, so because I said negative things about microsoft I can't partecipate to the discussion. I'm a such horrible person. Forgive me.
He certainly interviews well. However, several of the changes he has made don't really sit well with me. The parity clause, for one, and the continued wasting of money on timed exclusives (which adds absolutely no value to the console for anyone who already has one and damages the industry) both make me feel like he says some things and does others.
It's true though. Throwing money at Eidos to delay the PS4 version of Tomb Raider and defending the parity clause are both fairly shitty.
And contrary to the claims of people on GAF (and MS's own claims at this year's E3) we haven't seen some sudden rush of game content on Xbone. In fact Sony are securely ahead in that league.
So far I only see him having done the bare minimum necessary to placate people and rouse some interest in Xbone. What MS right now is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, not just someone who 'isn't as bad as the last guy'.
Taking words out of context that would work most of those were sarcastic comments carry on you can find more but please pick the ones that fit your agendaYeah, it is always interesting listening to him.
uh-huh.
It's true though. Throwing money at Eidos to delay the PS4 version of Tomb Raider and defending the parity clause are both fairly shitty.
And contrary to the claims of people on GAF (and MS's own claims at this year's E3) we haven't seen some sudden rush of game content on Xbone. In fact Sony are securely ahead in that league.
So far I only see him having done the bare minimum necessary to placate people and rouse some interest in Xbone. What MS right now is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, not just someone who 'isn't as bad as the last guy'.
uh-huh.
Wow, on one page we have a great detectiveGAF post, and then a few posts later we have this. If this were reddit, this would belong in shittydetectiveGAF. This post is bad, and you should feel bad. Telling someone to GTFO because they don't like Spencer in a thread that's all about whether we like or dislike Spencer... Do you know how forums work?
What claims?
Parity is shit, but you have no idea what the deal was with Tomb Raider also its not like Phil Spencer put a gun to SEs head, they didn't have to sign that deal. If MS made an offer that was beneficial to both perhaps SE thought it was better for them in the long run.
How much do you expect to achieve in 6 months? MS have plenty of content coming, does someone really have to list it to show you?