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[Nester99]

I did not know star wars fans existed who still think GL owns the franchise.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I don't see why him doing bad work in any way supports the perception that he must relieve himself of control over his work and move according to what consumers want him to do. With perhaps the exception of his own financial interests.

"We're owned nothing" might be a worn notion but often (the colloquially called) hardcore fans are extremely quickly to dismiss authorship and just as often they have fantastical and dehumanizing ideas about the person or persons behind the woks they admire, and "we're owned nothing" is necessary to make people think with their feet on the ground.

He has already given the franchise up so it's kind of a moot point really but nobody is saying he has to do anything. It's just that "doing what one wants" isn't necessarily the path to a good product. I don't condone threats or insults on his person but as soon as he releases something to the public and asks money for it, people are free to criticize every single aspect of it.

My problem with the phrase "we're owed nothing" is that it's a pretty lazy excuse and dismissal of any criticism. It's become especially annoying with these mega franchises like Star Wars and Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire. Of course nobody is "owed" anything beyond the products they pay for. That doesn't mean one can be unhappy with the trajectory a franchise they have invested time and money in goes.

 

[Bishop89]

You are making my point by introducing JW. JW was also a hugely nostalgic trip and made a huge chunk itself. So did Age Of Ultron. I could look at the rest of the movies released in 2015 but my point remains.

SW's huge opening and incredible legs had EVERYTHING to do with it being the only ticket in town, the reuniting of the band after 32 years (as I said) and insane hype and great reviews.

There was NOTHING to compete with it in mid December, period. I would gamble it doesn't open to 248 million if Ultron is still 2 weeks into it's run and JW would have definitely cut it's legs when it came out.

TFA, like Avatar and Titanic before it, ran virtually unopposed into January and beyond.

wrong.

point break.

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lol