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[MrPressStart]

Rooney is the type of player at this stage in his career that you either let him come off the bench or you hide his inabilities with others abilities. Signing Pogba goes a long way.

Last season we couldn't get to any headers. Felanni was our only real option. Ibra and now Pogba will more than fix that.... As seen today. Plus Smalling.

Rooney may be able to hide and do the little things this year and hopefully break the record and sort out what he wants.

 

[Lashley]

He'll be worth it for the jersey money alone.

lol

WAYYYY overestimating shirt sales

 

[Drifters]

lol

WAYYYY overestimating shirt sales

Such a Liverpool fan post. We've already covered his wages with the Ibra jersey sales.

 

[Regginator]

Juve is prepared to sell him, Man U can afford him. What more is there to say?

As watchers or fans of the sport, we really shouldn't give a fuck about the amount of money clubs spend to buy players (assuming, of course, they actually can and aren't in excessive debts). I'm not a Man U fan, but hot damn their team is shaping up tremendously. Good for the Premier League as well.

 

[kaizoku]

So in £ it was £89m.

Considering Stones and Lukaku are being valued at £70m, that's actually looking like a decent deal. He is probably the best box to box midfielder around and this archetype of player is seriously hard to find these days.

If he leaves for free in 5 years we'd have paid around £17m a season for him, we basically paid £20m for one year of RVP and didn't bat an eye.

If we sell him for £50-60m in 3 years we'd have paid around £10-13m a season.

If he plays amazing and we have success maybe he will renew or we sell him for a new record fee or closer to the Bale fee at least.

It's not like £89m is gone as if we've just paid for a steak. It's an investment that goes towards the team and eventually might turn back into money.

 

[Zabojnik]

Such a Liverpool fan post. We've already covered his wages with the Ibra jersey sales.

Christ, still with this nonsense. It's been debunked a thousand times.

 

[Rellik]

Such a Liverpool fan post. We've already covered his wages with the Ibra jersey sales.

Doesn't work like that.

 

[zeyadzoz]

Such a Liverpool fan post. We've already covered his wages with the Ibra jersey sales.

Except almost all of shirt sales actually go to Adidas.

Man United will pay Juventus 105 + 5 million euros in instalments for 3 years. They will also pay his agent Mino Raiola (probably around 20 millions but no official numbers yet).

 

[Kain]

Glad to know not only Barça get scammed when signing players.

Pogba is overrated and no way in fucking hell he's worth that. No player is worth that sum (not even Messi or CR), but in Pogba's case he's not worth even half of that. GG Juve... oh wait they just signed Higuain for a fuckton lololololol

 

[BunnyBear]

Good on them if true, surely one of these Man U signings will eventually end up working because the last half dozen or so have been pretty underwhelming.

 

[Atomic Odin]

Nowhere near worth 100M+. Nowhere near.

 

[chromatic9]

Christ, still with this nonsense. It's been debunked a thousand times.

There were some recent articles about Zlatan's shirt sales that spread like wild fire sadly. The shirt sale myth got another boost.

 

[Brinbe]

This is one deal that you can't just put in worth through kit sales. This was all about Woodward wanting to make a splash in the transfer market and making a big show of flexing United's financial might. After Ronaldo left, there's been a big chasm of having that Galactico-type signing/player on the team.

It's not as if United haven't spent in the past either. Rooney/Ferdinand/Cantona/Keane, we splash out when needed. But I think that's a different era.

Nowadays, as footie fans (and especially United fans) know, we've been spurned by almost every big level competitive signing over the past few years. Whether that's Thiago/Lucas Moura/Pedro/Vidal/Sneijder/etc, we've always lost out in the end. And this is a real signal of intent that we can compete for those big money guys that usually move to Madrid/Barca or Bayern.

This is a big massive overpay, but that's the point.

 

[ActWan]

Shirt sales are worthless to fund Pogba lol
BUT, there was a recent article that stated United will get approximately 40 million pounds this year from his image-rights that they got from the contract or something. But it was also from the Express so I don't know how reliable it is

 

[DerZuhälter]

Considering the pisspoor or unknown players that been signed this season for over 30M I believe he'll be worth every penny.

 

[chicko1983]

Man this is a stacked midfield and forward line.

De Gea
Shaw Bailly Smalling Darmian
Carrick Mata
Pogba
Ibra Mkhitaryan
Martial

No room for schniederlin, rooney, blind and Im being very nice on Carrick.

To be honest I dont watch Man U, just picked their team off their squad list.

 

[SplitYourInfinities]

This is the main reason why PL will never catch up to La Liga, instead of investing in local talents EPL teams keep overpaying for overrated players.

 

[chicko1983]

Except almost all of shirt sales actually go to Adidas.

Man United will pay Juventus 105 + 5 million euros in instalments for 3 years. They will also pay his agent Mino Raiola (probably around 20 millions but no official numbers yet).

Thats the next five years worth of part ownership of players for Juve sorted!

 

[Brinbe]

This is the main reason why PL will never catch up to La Liga, instead of investing in local talents EPL teams keep overpaying for overrated players.

lol wut... What a dumb statement.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/academies-produced-most-premier-league-7224364

Manchester United's former academy players have featured more often in the Premier League this season than any other academy's graduates.

As many as 22 of the club's former academy players have made a combined total of 226 Premier League appearances in 2015-16.

That's more players and more appearances than any other academy.

United's former academy players plying their trade in the league include Norwich's Robbie Brady (22 appearances), Watford's Craig Cathcart (also 22), West Brom's Darren Fletcher (also 22) and Leicester's Danny Drinkwater (20).

Aston Villa's former academy players have made the second highest number of Premier League appearances this season - 149 in total.

Barca and Madrid can poach from a vast area, while PL clubs are much more limited from where they can get young players. It's not even comparable.

 

[faridmon]

One manager let him go, another brought him back.

Your point is idiotic.

You are really trying hard to justify this aren't you?

To be fair, we are fleecing Man city and Chelsea off so I can't say anything about this.

 

[Audioboxer]

lol.

To be honest Juve fans would need to be mad to turn on him. Got him on a free, had some great seasons and massively helped the club and has now given a ton of money for the club.

Also Man Utd may have an abundance of central midfielders but they're mostly either past their sell by date or team players at best. It's been a long time since we had a Scholes (I think Pogba could become as good as/surpass).

 

[chicko1983]

lol wut... What a dumb statement.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/academies-produced-most-premier-league-7224364

There were nine spanish players who played in the ECL final last year, who played a total of 259 La Liga games last season (seven of them for Athletico, for 214 games).

Thats more his point. The best young Spanish players, are developed at their club and those club teams can beat the English teams, hence there is less of a need to spend big on players.

Although Athletico supports his argument, the poster did conveniently forget about the money spent on Ronaldo and Bale by the other Madrid team...

 

[chromatic9]

Although Athletico supports his argument, the poster did conveniently forget about the money spent on Ronaldo and Bale by the other Madrid team...

Also forgetting the incredible sum of money paid (around 80m) for James Rodríguez who hardly gets a game.

The two big clubs in Spain are the one's who pay and break records for the last decade or more.

 

[heidern]

If he leaves for free in 5 years we'd have paid around £17m a season for him, we basically paid £20m for one year of RVP and didn't bat an eye.

Van Persie won Man U the title. The PL is seems very competitive at the moment and Man U might not even make the Champions League. At that point he could be sold for £60m-£70m which could mean a loss of £20m-£30m not including what was spent on wages in 1 year. They could hold on to him but then you have Pogba not being in the Champions League. There is downside risk on both sides.

 

[chicko1983]

Also forgetting the incredible sum of money paid (around 80m) for James Rodríguez who hardly gets a game.

The two big clubs in Spain are the one's who pay and break records for the last decade or more.

yes for Real Madrid, however, Barca has three players who are all Ballon d'Or winners that all came through their academy.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

lol, what a bloated number. Hold this L EPL, stay losing. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Juve making out like thieves, wow

They paid like 90-100m for Higuain so no not really lol

 

[MisterR]

Good on them if true, surely one of these Man U signings will eventually end up working because the last half dozen or so have been pretty underwhelming.

Hmm. Martial seems to have worked out pretty well.

 

[Ikuu]

They paid like 90-100m for Higuain so no not really lol

To be fair they got a lot for their money.

 

[chromatic9]

To be fair they got a lot for their money.

So 1 million per kilo? Not bad.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

To be fair they got a lot for their money.

 

[Mafro]

Man this is a stacked midfield and forward line.

De Gea
Shaw Bailly Smalling Darmian
Carrick Mata
Pogba
Ibra Mkhitaryan
Martial

No room for schniederlin, rooney, blind and Im being very nice on Carrick.

To be honest I dont watch Man U, just picked their team off their squad list.

With those players in their actual positions it would be:

De Gea
Damian Bailly Smalling Shaw
Carrick Pogba
Mkhitaryan Mata Martial
Ibrahimovic

That's a really strong team and probably pretty close to what the starting XI will be in most games this season I think. Looks like Valencia might end up being the first choice RB, and Rooney as the number 10 until Mourinho has enough of his poor performances. Personally I'd go for:

De Gea
Damian/Valencia Bailly Smalling Shaw
Schneiderlin/Carrick
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Ibrahimovic Martial

4-3-3 since it gets the best out of both Herrera and Pogba.

 

[Paracelsus]

Juventus paid £75million for an overweight 29 year old Higuain. They aren't laughing all the way to the bank.

Pogba is far better value and Juventus are losing out overall.

Juventus wants to win the UCL, but they don't have the money to buy a top class striker who can guarantee goals no matter what. Look at who they had to go through UCL over the past five years: Matri, Quagliarella, Vucinic, Llorente, Tevez, Morata, Dybala, Mandzukic (I'm not even mentioning some of the subs because Jesus). Either people who aren't even Europa League material or has-beens or young lads, all cheap acquisitions except Dybala which was a lucky purchase because EPL doesn't follow Serie A all that much.

You haven't been following but Juve lost Aguero because of dosh, they lost Van Persie, even Dzeko (...), the only reason they got Morata was because of a glorified loan deal (they couldn't afford a few millions more for a regular contract like Schalke) and Tevez because they thought he was finished. Last year they couldn't afford Draxler so they had to give the #10 to Pogba to calm Adidas' rage and buy Hernanes as a filler.

The overall group is good but the strikers just are not: Mandzukic is utterly old school unremarkable mediocrity, Zaza is only good as a sub, Morata doesn't score as much as he should, Dybala is green yet he's alone in the desert. He got injured right in between EF legs against Munich because he had to take care of most of the attacking from midfield on so he got tired and eventually his legs gave up.

In two years Juve is going to lose Buffon, Barzagli, Chiellini and Marchisio are going to be 33 and all busted up. What do you expect Juve to do, to waste money on overrated names like Milik or Batshuayi and hope they deliver before the foundations of the team are gone and they're fucked?

So in my estimation, Juve made this assumption: we had Pogba for four years and we didn't do shit in Europe, the one time we got close to doing it there were not one but two hungry strikers ready for european competition. On top of that, Pogba wasn't even around until the second leg of the semifinals. Now, we can put pretty much anyone in the midfield, we can't do the same in the striking zone, not gonna work. There's no good deals like Tevez and Morata around so...yeah.

People underestimate just how much Juve wanted to sell him.

 

[HarryKS]

Write this down and put money on it: United's gonna win the CL again before Juventus.

 

[SplitYourInfinities]

Also forgetting the incredible sum of money paid (around 80m) for James Rodríguez who hardly gets a game.

The two big clubs in Spain are the one's who pay and break records for the last decade or more.

LaLiga has 20 teams mate, Barça and Real are just 2 of them. You won't see a team like Bilbao playing in the PL

 

[Yurt]

Juventus wants to win the UCL, but they don't have the money to buy a top class striker who can guarantee goals no matter what. Look at who they had to go through UCL over the past five years: Matri, Quagliarella, Vucinic, Llorente, Tevez, Morata, Dybala, Mandzukic (I'm not even mentioning some of the subs because Jesus). Either people who aren't even Europa League material or has-beens or young lads, all cheap acquisitions except Dybala which was a lucky purchase because EPL doesn't follow Serie A all that much.

You haven't been following but Juve lost Aguero because of dosh, they lost Van Persie, even Dzeko (...), the only reason they got Morata was because of a glorified loan deal (they couldn't afford a few millions more for a regular contract like Schalke) and Tevez because they thought he was finished. Last year they couldn't afford Draxler so they had to give the #10 to Pogba to calm Adidas' rage and buy Hernanes as a filler.

The overall group is good but the strikers just are not: Mandzukic is utterly old school unremarkable mediocrity, Zaza is only good as a sub, Morata doesn't score as much as he should, Dybala is green yet he's alone in the desert. He got injured right in between EF legs against Munich because he had to take care of most of the attacking from midfield on so he got tired and eventually his legs gave up.

In two years Juve is going to lose Buffon, Barzagli, Chiellini and Marchisio are going to be 33 and all busted up. What do you expect Juve to do, to waste money on overrated names like Milik or Batshuayi and hope they deliver before the foundations of the team are gone and they're fucked?

So in my estimation, Juve made this assumption: we had Pogba for four years and we didn't do shit in Europe, the one time we got close to doing it there were not one but two hungry strikers ready for european competition. On top of that, Pogba wasn't even around until the second leg of the semifinals. Now, we can put pretty much anyone in the midfield, we can't do the same in the striking zone, not gonna work. There's no good deals like Tevez and Morata around so...yeah.

People underestimate just how much Juve wanted to sell him.

Preach.


this wasn't just a simple player swap either, it didn't just net them a striker that bagged in 41 goals last year off one of their closest rivals, they also got Pjanic (!!!) and Pjaca out of it.

along with Dani Alves and Benatia. An absolutely RIDICULOUS mercatoooo


edit: another CM might be coming as well?

 

[Blablurn]

laugh as much as u want about higuain

but in the end you will be sorry for your words and deeds

 

[Lashley]

Such a Liverpool fan post. We've already covered his wages with the Ibra jersey sales.

And yet, I'm not a Liverpool fan.

And your post there has already been debunked, but please, keep saying shit

 

[Yurt]

Such a Liverpool fan post. We've already covered his wages with the Ibra jersey sales.

such a premface post.

United only get like 10-12% of their shirt sales and the rest goes to Adidas.


this isn't how it works anyway

 

[Bek Sloy]

such a premface post.

United only get like 10-12% of their shirt sales and the rest goes to Adidas.


this isn't how it works anyway

I thought they just get a flat rate now since they agreed that huge deal? No extra money depending on shirt sales, right?

Pogba signing is funny, in that it's so much fucking money it's insane, but it's not my money, so what do I care? I support United, though watching us play last night was tedious, I don't know if that's just what Mourinho has brought or if we're stuck in that way now. Bringing in four definite starters will certainly help change it, especially ones which look as good as Bailly, what a debut.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

laugh as much as u want about higuain

but in the end you will be sorry for your words and deeds

Can't wait for him to botch up goals in the KO rounds like he's done all his career ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Zabojnik]

Can't wait for him to botch up goals in the KO rounds like he's done all his career ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Anecdotal evidence vs. statistics, as I'm confident this season will show.

 

[ActWan]

Man this is a stacked midfield and forward line.

De Gea
Shaw Bailly Smalling Darmian
Carrick Mata
Pogba
Ibra Mkhitaryan
Martial

No room for schniederlin, rooney, blind and Im being very nice on Carrick.

To be honest I dont watch Man U, just picked their team off their squad list.

And it showed.
The team will probably be:
De Gea
Shaw Bailly Smalling Valencia(with his recent form in pre-season I think he can bench Darmian)
Schniederlin/Carrick Pogba
Mkhitaryan Rooney Martial
Zlatan

Also unsure about the Bailly-Smalling pairing. It's probably the best we got on paper but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Bold One]

Surely if Raheem is worth 50 million, Pogba is worth 89 million.

 

[Mattlikewhoa]

You this guy?

Stay classy.

Maybe Juventus can afford to pay the judges as well now, not only the referees.

HAHA Oh man... A lot of the replies in this thread are ohhhhh so great!

 

[Heebie Jeebies]

What a sensational turn around for woowoo if it's £90m over 3 seasons.

 

[Yurt]

there's an English Juve forum? Whew, I'll steer clear of that.

oh boy and it ends with a Z.

What a sensational turn around for woowoo if it's £90m over 3 seasons.

is the 20 million agent fee over 3 seasons as well?


:lol

 

[Bersi]

Preach.


this wasn't just a simple player swap either, it didn't just net them a striker that bagged in 41 goals last year off one of their closest rivals, they also got Pjanic (!!!) and Pjaca out of it.

along with Dani Alves and Benatia. An absolutely RIDICULOUS mercatoooo


edit: another CM might be coming as well?

Yeah overall this was a great summer for us, someone like matic would be good as a replacement, can't wait to see dybala and higuain in action together.

 

[Yurt]

Yeah overall this was a great summer for us, someone like matic would be good as a replacement, can't wait to see dybala and higuain in action together.

I somehow doubt Conte would sell him :lol

that would be like...lending us his own fork so we could eat our 100 euros meal in his coveted 100 euros restaurant, if you know what I mean.

 

[2700]

Juventus have done what they did last time they sold a player for a world record fee, sweep up the best talent from the rest of the league to cement their position as the best team in Italy and have a first eleven capable of challenging for the Champion's League.

The turnaround of Juventus since the match-fixing scandal has been remarkable.

 

[casiopao]

Juventus wants to win the UCL, but they don't have the money to buy a top class striker who can guarantee goals no matter what. Look at who they had to go through UCL over the past five years: Matri, Quagliarella, Vucinic, Llorente, Tevez, Morata, Dybala, Mandzukic (I'm not even mentioning some of the subs because Jesus). Either people who aren't even Europa League material or has-beens or young lads, all cheap acquisitions except Dybala which was a lucky purchase because EPL doesn't follow Serie A all that much.

You haven't been following but Juve lost Aguero because of dosh, they lost Van Persie, even Dzeko (...), the only reason they got Morata was because of a glorified loan deal (they couldn't afford a few millions more for a regular contract like Schalke) and Tevez because they thought he was finished. Last year they couldn't afford Draxler so they had to give the #10 to Pogba to calm Adidas' rage and buy Hernanes as a filler.

The overall group is good but the strikers just are not: Mandzukic is utterly old school unremarkable mediocrity, Zaza is only good as a sub, Morata doesn't score as much as he should, Dybala is green yet he's alone in the desert. He got injured right in between EF legs against Munich because he had to take care of most of the attacking from midfield on so he got tired and eventually his legs gave up.

In two years Juve is going to lose Buffon, Barzagli, Chiellini and Marchisio are going to be 33 and all busted up. What do you expect Juve to do, to waste money on overrated names like Milik or Batshuayi and hope they deliver before the foundations of the team are gone and they're fucked?

So in my estimation, Juve made this assumption: we had Pogba for four years and we didn't do shit in Europe, the one time we got close to doing it there were not one but two hungry strikers ready for european competition. On top of that, Pogba wasn't even around until the second leg of the semifinals. Now, we can put pretty much anyone in the midfield, we can't do the same in the striking zone, not gonna work. There's no good deals like Tevez and Morata around so...yeah.

People underestimate just how much Juve wanted to sell him.

Mandzukic being mediocore.O_O I don't think u now what u are talking here. He had great synergy with Dybala there. Many of Dybala happen thanks to Zukic great pressing which open space for Dybala.

At least this year with Pjanic and Pjaca to help, i can see Juve growing even stronger than last year. Lemina also seems to be growing up greatly.^_^ So i can see the move of Pogba won't damage us that badly here.