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Mark my words Portal will be bigger threat to Xbox than PS5 it Self
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Not sure why you’re comparing console free streaming to streaming from your console. Different things entirely
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Okay I’ve marked your words.
BootsLoader
Banned
Totally agree.
kazuyamishima
Member
Xbox is the threat to Xbox.
How can you not understand it Portal is succeeding where Google Stadia just failed & the biggest difference is that Sony don't have to maintain the servers because they are in people's homes.
Apocryphon
Member
It’ll be about as successful as PSVR.
tommycronin
Member
MasterCornholio
Member
I'm more worried about support for PSVR2 than Portal.
Portal is a lazy devs best friend if you know what I mean.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
For Sony it doesn’t need to be any one thing.
Want VR? Check
Want a remote player? Check
Want a console? Check
Want a sub service? Check
It largely checks all the boxes for whatever you’re interested in. If you don’t just want GamePass Xbox is lacking on many fronts
Want VR? Check
Want a remote player? Check
Want a console? Check
Want a sub service? Check
It largely checks all the boxes for whatever you’re interested in. If you don’t just want GamePass Xbox is lacking on many fronts
MasterCornholio
Member
You don't have to build a crazy server farm to make it work. The customer is literally buying the server from you.
I just never thought of it that way but your right. Every PS5 is a cloud streaming device and Portal is just an extremely good tool to use it.
Mr Hyde
Member
This doesn't make any sense. You need a PS5 to use Portal. It's an accessory. It's like saying PSVR2 is a bigger threat to Xbox than PS5. Or Pulse 3D headset. Or a Dual sense controller. I don't think many people are sitting at home thinking "I need a Portal so I can play video games", and then goes to purchase a PS5 with it. They purchase a PS5 first and then start thinking about accessories. Alas, PS5 is the main threat to Xbox. And it's growing.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I want to see the legs for this product before I personally call it a success..
What would be crazy if by mid 2025, the Xbox Series console is getting beat by the Playstation Portal in units. That would put it behind the Switch, Switch 2, PS5, PS Portal.
Sony must push cloud for this to even have a chance.
What would be crazy if by mid 2025, the Xbox Series console is getting beat by the Playstation Portal in units. That would put it behind the Switch, Switch 2, PS5, PS Portal.
Sony must push cloud for this to even have a chance.
StueyDuck
Member
im not worried at all, i always saw portal as something that isn't going to set the world on fire and im still not convinced in any way it will either.
i am worried about all VR though including PSVR2, Meta is making the entire VR platform really stupid by making everything worth a damn to own a Quest 3 "exclusive", so even someone like me with a Rift S and in the meta "ecosystem" is still getting absolutely fucked.
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I'm nobody
Member
It has I took a dump in a toilet in a Scottish camping site last week while playing a playstation portal (plat Spiderman 2)
MasterCornholio
Member
Well there's over 40 million of them sold. I think that's the part your missing.
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Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
I mean Sony benefit from both.
But Sony were early to realise the benefit of from console streaming. Does anyone remember the patent from about 10 years ago where Sony defined a system whereby users could allow their consoles to be 'leased' as edge cloud servers? (I could be misremembering it)
Barakov
Member
I actually thought about that & we actually already done this with the PS4 with game sharing with people who didn't own the game but now they could do this with people who don't even own a PS5 .
You people never learn lol
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Mark my words the Toyota Aqua is a bigger threat to BMW than Mercedes.
Darkkahn
Member
Alright, let's not get crazy here.
I tried to tell people about this before the consoles released
With consoles now doing double duty as game servers for mobile devices shouldn't they also run hybrid / mobile games natively
Like PS5 could be a game server for PS1 , PS2 , PS3 ,PS4 , PS5 console games but also a server for PSP , Vita & also a new hybrid platform that's basically mobile games that's running on PS5 but with mobile interface that use your phone's touch screen , IMU , camera & so on
MasterCornholio
Member
I tried to tell people about this before the consoles released
With consoles now doing double duty as game servers for mobile devices shouldn't they also run hybrid / mobile games natively
Like PS5 could be a game server for PS1 , PS2 , PS3 ,PS4 , PS5 console games but also a server for PSP , Vita & also a new hybrid platform that's basically mobile games that's running on PS5 but with mobile interface that use your phone's touch screen , IMU , camera & so onwww.neogaf.com
As for me. I was thinking about getting a Dualsense Edge but the Portal might seem like a better buy to me.
My mind is still blown by the fact that a $200 controller is so successful.
I actually fear Edge's success because I like standards when it comes to console controllers so they will get better support now I worry that stuff will be held back from the next standard controller just so they can sell another $200 controller.
killatopak
Member
That's a reach.
The only real factor in this business is games.
The only real factor in this business is games.
Duchess
Member
Yeah, that's pretty unfair. It's a beta. Once it comes out of beta and into general use, the wait times will be less than a quarter of that.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Bless you
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onQ123
I legit guessed this was one of your threads before reading the thread posters name.
Saying that, you have been right more times than me over the last few years...so you could be onto something here!
Let's see how it plays out.
Might kick microsofts ass into making cloud streaming better.
Saying that, you have been right more times than me over the last few years...so you could be onto something here!
Let's see how it plays out.
Might kick microsofts ass into making cloud streaming better.
crackajack
Member
The argument is entirely weird.
While I personally think the Portal is a crippled design, by choice, but if it makes the PS5 platform better for some or even a lot people, it of course threatens Xbox, by making another positive for a PS5 purchase. But it does not work standalone. Instead of being a PS5 companion/remote play device it sh/could have been a true streaming accessory for either PS5, also PS4 and most importantly Plus without any other hw at home required. But talking about it itself threatening anything especially the cloud space is imho pure BS since it is exactly not a hw agnostic only or as well cloud streaming device.
I loved remote play via Vita, but buying a handheld that should be able to stream from any source and not have any real standalone capabilities is not up my alley. It's also weird enough that PC Plus users currently can't access PS5 streams because those are limited to PS5 users. Kinda mad to not make it the other way round. PC users anyway can't download any of the games, but can't stream PS5 games and also can't just buy the Portal to have a dedicated stream device. Instead everything revolves around a PS5 at individuals' home, the opposite of what cloud streaming is.
While I personally think the Portal is a crippled design, by choice, but if it makes the PS5 platform better for some or even a lot people, it of course threatens Xbox, by making another positive for a PS5 purchase. But it does not work standalone. Instead of being a PS5 companion/remote play device it sh/could have been a true streaming accessory for either PS5, also PS4 and most importantly Plus without any other hw at home required. But talking about it itself threatening anything especially the cloud space is imho pure BS since it is exactly not a hw agnostic only or as well cloud streaming device.
I loved remote play via Vita, but buying a handheld that should be able to stream from any source and not have any real standalone capabilities is not up my alley. It's also weird enough that PC Plus users currently can't access PS5 streams because those are limited to PS5 users. Kinda mad to not make it the other way round. PC users anyway can't download any of the games, but can't stream PS5 games and also can't just buy the Portal to have a dedicated stream device. Instead everything revolves around a PS5 at individuals' home, the opposite of what cloud streaming is.
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Realize that Xbox whole talk was about PlayStation not being their competition but Google & Amazon. Basically looking at the future where you will be playing your games on mobile devices.
Portal is right there where Google Stadia was supposed to be .
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
PlayStation vs. Xbox war just got elevated to the next level of stupid. Congratulations.
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Google Stadia - you don’t need a console or PC, we’ll stream it to your browser.
Portal/Remote Play - stream from your console to your handheld or browser
Two entirely different things. Two entirely different target audience. Different ambitions.
Of course there’s the argument to be made that when Sony eventually enables cloud streaming on the Portal, it could very well push it to the success levels that MS has dreamt of with XCloud. But that’s an entirely different thing to your argument in the OP about ‘personal servers’
MasterCornholio
Member
I blame companies for going full retard with their metrics. It makes every dumb thing become a discussion.
Stupid levers pulled will be the next thing people brag about.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
My question is: why even care about 'metrics' in the first place? Do these people own substantial number of shares in either company?
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You do understand that the only difference is one is owned by the user & the other is being rented out to the user right?
MasterCornholio
Member
Success of the platform is the most important one. You don't have to be a shareholder to want to see a gaming platform be successful.
SkylineRKR
Member
I think even with handhelds most gamers play at home (if you want to multiplay, you want a solid wifi anyway). So Portal does make sense in a way. In the end its usage is not much different from Switch Lite I imagine, which most consumers esp. in the west use at home too.
But Portal is still a remote play device. I think it will be a more compelling device if Sony enables Cloud streaming on it. Cloud streaming does work rather well for me, at least Xcloud on Series S does.
But Portal is still a remote play device. I think it will be a more compelling device if Sony enables Cloud streaming on it. Cloud streaming does work rather well for me, at least Xcloud on Series S does.