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[Sid]

Anyone know what the price of this game is gonna be?

$60

 

[cyberheater]

Ha ha. This thread has been really funny...

 

[Mutagenic]

People are trusting PR folks more than the actual dev team. Unreal. When I first heard this game would be 1080p and 60fps I knew it wasn't true. And no, upscaling is not the same as native res.

 

[cyberheater]

its 2012.... the xbox runs it in 720p, and thats 2005 hardware, if wiiu port wasnt 1080p, there would be something horribly wrong with the wiiu

So. There must be something terribly wrong with the hardware then...

 

[SapientWolf]

Lol, anyone expecting 1080p is hopelessly misguided. That would mean they would actually put effort into the port.

I don't think it's a question of effort.

 

[Corleth the Fey]

Anyone know what the price of this game is gonna be?

£10.80p

 

[Bisnic]

I don't think it's a question of effort.

Especially considering few games, even Nintendo ones, are at 1080p.

 

[EloquentM]

The amount of venom spitting in this thread is disappointing.

 

[DonMigs85]

Didn't FFXIII on 360 have a 720p HUD overlay while the game itself was just 1024x576?

 

[Sid]

Especially considering few games, even Nintendo ones, are at 1080p.

You mean are not at 1080p

 

[Bisnic]

You mean are not at 1080p

I think you need to reread my post. I said few games are at 1080p.

 

[sp3000]

ITT no one understands how much more GPU power is necessary to drive 1080P

Don't be silly ... we know there is very low chance of hardware upscaling specifically there to be a standard for use, atleast promoted by nintendo, there is no reason for it, if for some reason there is it's probably a dev who made it work with GPU by him self if GPU even supports it.

Hahaha. Wow

 

[Sid]

So its 720p, and I guess 30fps? What's going to be the difference then with the other console ports visual wise?

Nothing

 

[Bisnic]

Nothing

Well, at best its not going to be plagued with the slowdowns the PS3 version apparently have.

 

[DragonSworne]

What ME3 even 720P on current gen systems? Or was it upscaled from a lower resolution?

 

[Sid]

Well, at best its not going to be plagued with the slowdowns the PS3 version apparently have.

Yeah...hopefully

 

[StuBurns]

What ME3 even 720P on current gen systems? Or was it upscaled from a lower resolution?

It's 720p with FXAA.

 

[99%]

1080p.

But 20fps.

Just like the PS360 version.

/datBiowareprogrammmingpro's

 

[BlazinAm]

1080p.

But 20fps.

Just like the PS360 version.

/datBiowareprogrammmingpro's

I thought it was 25-28 fps for the xbox and 20-24 fps for ps3. Also this thread is amazing.

 

[Medalion]

Wii-U can't catch a break. If Nintendo can't get 1080p on NSMB U, why would a third party port of a game make it?

 

[SmokyDave]

its 2012.... the xbox runs it in 720p, and thats 2005 hardware, if wiiu port wasnt 1080p, there would be something horribly wrong with the wiiu

I know it makes me a bad person but I can't help but laugh at this post.

 

[BlazinAm]

I know it makes me a bad person but I can't help but laugh at this post.

Shit man it makes me smile.

Wii-U can't catch a break. If Nintendo can't get 1080p on NSMB U, why would a third party port of a game make it?

I know that 1080p is sooo important to people here, but it isn't the wii u's biggest problem.

 

[Medalion]

£7.20p

Sale pricing

 

[Mzo]

Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U will feature an old game everyone already beat, complained about, then beat again for the new ending.

 

[theman5141]

Doesn't the WiiU use an ATI series 7 GPU? It should be more than enough to handle UE3 at 1080p. The CPU seems to be the weak link with the system and most UE3 games don't seem to put too much of a hurting on that aspect of the system.

The GPU reliance of the engine is likely why the PS3 struggles with UE3 games, I'd imagine.

Don't take my word for this - I'm no developer - but it seems the consensus surrounding UE3 is that it taxes the CPU side of things more than the GPU. If the Wii U CPU core clocks are indeed a bit on the slow side, and UE3 isn't really optimized for out-of-order CPUs (??), then there's no reason to believe that direct ports of PS3/360 games running on UE3 have even a fighting chance at attaining the 1080p threshold.

At best, I would expect true 720p, 60 fps, and slightly higher IQ. I actually believe the 60fps tidbit was on a "leaked" document of sorts. Probably has little to no veracity, and I'm too lazy to find it, but I certainly don't think it's completely out of the question.

 

[lightchris]

Don't take my word for this - I'm no developer - but it seems the consensus surrounding UE3 is that it taxes the CPU side of things more than the GPU. If the Wii U CPU core clocks are indeed a bit on the slow side, and UE3 isn't really optimized for out-of-order CPUs (??), then there's no reason to believe that direct ports of PS3/360 games running on UE3 have even a fighting chance at attaining the 1080p threshold.

I'm no game developer either, but I think I know enough to clear up some things:
First, the code usually doesn't need to be optimized for OoOE. The performance gain comes for free. Second, rendering resolution is independent of the CPU. If a game is limited by CPU performance, an increase in resolution will not effect the framerate.

Of course it might still be true that Xenos and Cell are just as fast or even faster than the Wii U CPU. In this case, some games on Wii U might run with lower fps or reduced details. It won't effect resolution, texture quality or the like though.

 

[Luigiv]

Don't take my word for this - I'm no developer - but it seems the consensus surrounding UE3 is that it taxes the CPU side of things more than the GPU. If the Wii U CPU core clocks are indeed a bit on the slow side, and UE3 isn't really optimized for out-of-order CPUs (??), then there's no reason to believe that direct ports of PS3/360 games running on UE3 have even a fighting chance at attaining the 1080p threshold.

At best, I would expect true 720p, 60 fps, and slightly higher IQ. I actually believe the 60fps tidbit was on a "leaked" document of sorts. Probably has little to no veracity, and I'm too lazy to find it, but I certainly don't think it's completely out of the question.

Unless they're doing a lot of software rendering on the CPU (I seriously doubt that) then the CPU shouldn't affect the output resolution at all.

 

[firehawk12]

You know, I guess I just realized something - with ME3 on the WiiU, that means that the WiiU is now capable of infinite "consumable" DLC.

Man, Fifa cards on every platform now. lol

 

[cyberheater]

I know it makes me a bad person but I can't help but laugh at this post.

He set his own trap...

 

[cyberheater]

Unless they're doing a lot of software rendering on the CPU (I seriously doubt that) then the CPU shouldn't affect the output resolution at all.

Yep.

I think we will see 1080p games on WiiU but only simpler Mii type games.

 

[theman5141]

I'm no game developer either, but I think I know enough to clear up some things:
First, the code usually doesn't need to be optimized for OoOE. The performance gain comes for free. Second, rendering resolution is independent of the CPU. If a game is limited by CPU performance, an increase in resolution will not effect the framerate.

Of course it might still be true that Xenos and Cell are just as fast or even faster than the Wii U CPU. In this case, some games on Wii U might run with lower fps or reduced details. It won't effect resolution, texture quality or the like though.

I see. In that case, there must still be something of consequence we do not know about the GPU. The "leaked" spec sheet everyone seems to be accepting more or less (1GB RAM for games/apps, 0.5-1GB for OS, HD 4000 series GPU) lists the following:

"32MB high-bandwidth eDRAM, supports 720p 4x MSAA or 1080p rendering in a single pass."

If I'm reading this correctly (tell me otherwise), an eDRAM pool of that size should be able to give developers nearly "free" 1080p assuming there is no multi-sampling, the game isn't heavy on post-processing, etc. Compared to X360's 10MB, 32MB should really help with framebuffer, correct?

Seeing how games like NSMB U (very little post-processing, that much is clear - maybe some AA?) only muster 720p, is it possible that Nintendo completely skimped on the 32 eDRAM altogether or settled for a much smaller amount?

 

[Perkel]

Next gen my ass.

 

[Refreshment.01]

Ha ha. This thread has been really funny...

Not only that, it's also a fantastic source for evidence in to the fanatical mind. It could be really useful in a future scientific study. SO it should be marked for reference.

Shit man it makes me smile.



I know that 1080p is sooo important to people here, but it isn't the wii u's biggest problem.

Aren't most of the TV's sold now in 1080P resolution? So having a console nativly support that is an important matter in terms of IQ. SO i can see the concern here.

 

[Perkel]

It's a cheap cash-in by EA. I don't think we can take that as any indication whatsoever. We're talking about a game with no improvements that they'll sell for 60€ that you can already get for half the price. They're not even porting it themselves. What did you expect, it's EA ?

ths wasn't only about ME3.