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Mass Effect: Andromeda PAX Livestream
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Salarians continue to look baller as hell.
Heckler456
Banned
Really?
Anyway, they've also got these "aliens" to worry about, you know. If they weren't in the game, then I'm sure we could have more variation in the human faces.
Again, I don't work in the video games industry, but I'm pretty sure making a game doesn't work like "I want thing" and you get it.
cripterion
Member
Hard to put it into words but these are the faces I would expect for a random sidequest npc not people that you interact with multiple times and that are part of your main crew.
This.
That's why I first said it reminds me of fifa generic create a character face
And arguably some of these even look better.
eot
Banned
Was checking the Andromeda initiative briefing videos to get more info on the game (and get myself immersed prior to launch). It's really well done and explains quite a few things about the voyage, how it is possible, etc..
Reading the codex will be a pleasure in the game cause they seem to have put effort into the background and well they do still have a pre-established lore to back them up. On the other hand some things still look poor like character models, I mean these are supposed to be important NPC's : they are the Nexus leadership and look at them
Director of Colonial Affairs: Foster Addison
Nexus Security: Sloane Kelly
Are these placeholders or they'll actually be the actual NPC's we have to deal with?
I really hope the game will be in some ways moddable on pc cause some of these things are really dragging down the game for me.
This reminds me of Deus Ex: Invisible War :S
Really?
Anyway, they've also got these "aliens" to worry about, you know. If they weren't in the game, then I'm sure we could have more variation in the human faces.
Again, I don't work in the video games industry, but I'm pretty sure making a game doesn't work like "I want thing" and you get it.
Yes, it's really what I believe. That the characters, while looking jank, were more believable, in my opinion, when compared to their environment. That picture is exactly how I remember human NPCs looking and does not deter me.
Heckler456
Banned
Well, they almost objectively look like shit, so I don't know what you want me to tell you.
While I was playing, I knew they didn't look great. I keep telling you that I think they look jank. I always have. But in motion, compared to the environment, they didn't bug me.
I don't know why we're arguing about aesthetic opinion when that's an abyss of disagreement that will literally never end.
Heckler456
Banned
True dat.
That being said though, how can you judge the believability of "them compared to their environment, while you were playing" when you haven't played the game yet? And well, I'm not even sure what "more believable in their environment" even means. Are you saying the environments looked equally shit? That seems like a weird thing to make a distinction about.
At the time, considering the tech available in 2007, I actually found a few aspects of the character animation impressive -- namely the way their eyes tracked the player, and their movements and gesticulations while talking. It kind of balanced out the jankiness of NPC design.
Same thing doesn't hold up with Andromeda. The way they "come to life" kinda creeps me out now. I'd say that's the main difference, for me.
I didn't say that wanting pretty girls in your games makes you a sexist. I can relate, I like pretty girls too. But I do think it's a bit sad if that's why you're here bashing Sara's looks, especially if you neglect to mention that that's what it's about.
And about faces...
I think these two are fine, even though they're clearly straight out of the character editor and not scans of real people. With a cast of 1200 characters, I never expected anything else.
Edit: How do you make the images appear smaller? This clearly didn't turn out right.
Hm, I think I got it.
lucebuce12
Member
Heckler456
Banned
Well hell, you're right. 1200 speaking characters. I'd like for anyone to show me a game that has over a thousand speaking characters, and that also somehow has better better facial animation and "less generic" character models, whatever that means in a game with alien NPC's.
Sigh. Just a few days ago I wrote that u was cautious and wanted to wait for the hype to die down post release before I took the plunge. However, the hype is starting to build for me too and I'm just sitting here convincing myself not to buy it day one. I really don't have the time for another huge game.
cripterion
Member
I don't think Horizon has that many speaking characters but the faces look much more believable, individual human beings as a whole and even side characters met for a brief side quest had a distinct face. Witcher 3 as well.
I have no beef with the aliens, by design they're are meant to be similar.
Anyways, didn't mean to pile on the game that much more, I'm very much looking forward to play it. My expectations on certain aspects were maybe too high.
GasProblem
Member
Are we expecting the female Ryder trailer to release today?
And that short clip of mp gameplay looks good, about what I expected really. Can you use your jetpack to jump around in mp?
And that short clip of mp gameplay looks good, about what I expected really. Can you use your jetpack to jump around in mp?
You can, and one preview mentioned a map with plenty of verticality and zipping around between levels. Sounds good.
Was the full multiplayer reveal supposed to be up on wednesday or was that just something I imagined?
HelloNewman
Member
Yes you can use the jetpack in MP.
cripterion
Member
I would think you can do the same as in the sp.
This preview talks about it
http://www.mmorpg.com/mass-effect-a...ast-2017-hands-on-with-multiplayer-1000011602
How can a company with so much budget mess this up so often or just make such constantly drab and weird animations?
One of them is not official but at this point it's becoming hard to tell.
GasProblem
Member
Thanks. Good to know. Going to be interesting with the added verticality.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The original trilogy not only copied a bunch but had pretty much the same generic faces.
I understand having grown tired of things like that that but I don't get holding ME 1 through 3 to a standard that's much higher than the games were.
prag16
Banned
Yeah. Pretty much. Human side characters in the trilogy were far worse than this.
And our of those four, one the second one looks outright bad. The other three are fine.
How can a company with so much budget mess this up so often or just make such constantly drab and weird animations?
One of them is not official but at this point it's becoming hard to tell.
Daily reminder CDPR made over 7000 new animations for Blood and Wine.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Stop picking on Mass Effect you guys 
I want Andromeda to be good. Let me dreaaaaaaaaaaaaam !
Exploratory
Banned
If you really believe that then just wait to play the game.
Ok, now who told them to let this shit get in a trailer? There's no way they can put that in the final game, right? "Excuse me while I slowly move your gun out of the way and point mine at you, kind sir."
CDPR really put their heart into that game.
metalshade
Member
Pretty sure she is actually turning his own gun on him, not unholstering her own.
But yeah, whilst the animations might be buggy, and look terrible, at this point, I don't give a damn.
It has been years since I have played a mass effect, and I am in, graphics and the like be damned.
The gif is slowed down so it's not full speed. And she is disarming an opponent and turning his gun back against him. Problem is it is such a wonky and slobbery animation of her grabbing the gun, flipping it around for a second while looking stonefaced as fuck and then do a tiny cocky smile while finally bringing it up.
Personally I would have just asked the animators "Watch Rush Hour, use that."
prag16
Banned
That's slowed way down, first of all. Second of all, it's not even that bad. That little smug smirk really pissed so many people off that much that it's still a frequent topic of discussion several weeks later? Third, the Jackie Chan one is solid, but I guarantee if they had her make the face he makes after the disarm, people here would have still cried about it loudly.
https://prod-media-masseffect.pulse.ea.com/content/masseffect/en_GB/andromeda-initiative/training-hub/arks-and-nexus/nexus-leadership/_jcr_content/mediaGallery/media/media/asset/adaptiveimage/large.img.jpg[/IMG]
Nexus Security: Sloane Kelly
Are these placeholders or they'll actually be the actual NPC's we have to deal with?
I really hope the game will be in some ways moddable on pc cause some of these things are really dragging down the game for me.
My god.. I had no idea the character models looked this bad. This seems like a giant leap backwards.
SirPinkyNose
Member
All humans look the same.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Makes me kinda worried that the character creator won't allow faces to be all that diverse.
Those 2 are place indeed holder, same with the krogan. We've seen those character again and they don't look like clone with different skin color anymore.
The gif is slowed down so it's not full speed. And she is disarming an opponent and turning his gun back against him. Problem is it is such a wonky and slobbery animation of her grabbing the gun, flipping it around for a second while looking stonefaced as fuck and then do a tiny cocky smile while finally bringing it up.
Personally I would have just asked the animators "Watch Rush Hour, use that."
My bad, haven't seen the version with the correct speed.
I just realised I'd love for Bioware to make a Rush Hour game with Chris Tucker voicing his character and every single line of dialogue from him being something funny/snarky.
Citizen G'Kar, that's this character. These Twitter promo photos look like they're all from really old builds.
prag16
Banned
DA:I definitely had that problem do a significant extent (as did the ME trilogy). Yeah you could make some wonky looking shit, but if you tried to make something "reasonable" most created faces ended up looking pretty similar to one another.
cripterion
Member
I guess maybe the generic feeling also comes from the fact that everyone wears the same clothes in space and once again haven't played the game so their faces will get more familiar over time
Imo these look very distinct thanks to their uniforms and other details. Liliana's face however...
Another game I didn't care for but at least you can tell a story behind that face. Just looking at them they have more character. Might be just the eyes that bug me in Andromeda though lol.
I preordered the game today and found out it comes out on the 23rd here in Europe. Sucks!
Imo these look very distinct thanks to their uniforms and other details. Liliana's face however...
Another game I didn't care for but at least you can tell a story behind that face. Just looking at them they have more character. Might be just the eyes that bug me in Andromeda though lol.
I preordered the game today and found out it comes out on the 23rd here in Europe. Sucks!
DagnastyEp
Member
Has there been any video on MP from PAX? I've read a few articles, but hadn't seen any with video. Not that it matters too much anyways, as I'll be playing in about 3 days.
Peroroncino
Member
Look at the two guns.
Look at them again.
If you still aren't sure what's happening.
Pellesaria B'Sayle is holding her gun backwards.
Hahaha, holy shit, how the hell do you screw up something so basic as pointing the gun in the correct direction lmao.
Reminded me of this:
and this:
Skyr
Member
Peroroncino
Member
Well that didn't take long.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hahaha, holy shit, how the hell do you screw up something so basic as pointing the gun in the correct direction lmao.
Reminded me of this:
New Biotic ability, the air punch.
And, it's a primer and a detonator. Replaces warp.
Heckler456
Banned
Hahaha, holy shit, how the hell do you screw up something so basic as pointing the gun in the correct direction lmao.
Reminded me of this:
and this:
Oh really? Does it also remind you of the fact that this is the actual speed of that particular sequence?
Here's the source in case you want to recheck that.
It's really special that even with all the supposed animation flaws, people still feel the need to pull shit straight out of thin air.
Andodalf
Banned
Oh really? Does it also remind you of the fact that this is the actual speed of that particular sequence?
Here's the source in case you want to recheck that.
It's really special that even with all the supposed animation flaws, people still feel the need to pull shit straight out of thin air.
The amount of slowed down gifs to make this game look worse is really strange. Why are so many people personally offended by the possibility of it being good?