The real question is: will any game be above 25k this week?
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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2015 (Mar 30- Apr 05)
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The real question is: will any game be above 25k this week?
small44
Member
Very unlikely i will go with 20k-22k
Tsutaya's report
- Spring vacations are over. New school term starts and one of the worst periods of sales too. Overall it has been a tough result this week, specially for 3DS.
- Although, at least it was better than last year with the consumption tax hike.
Also, Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin faced stock problems.
For next week:
- Girls Mode 3 (Style Savvy 3) for 3DS should top the charts next week. It's not just popular among young girls, but also among 20 years old girls. Good amount of pre-orders and long term sales are expected too.
- The second place is expected for the PS4 version of Dying Light.
- Spring vacations are over. New school term starts and one of the worst periods of sales too. Overall it has been a tough result this week, specially for 3DS.
- Although, at least it was better than last year with the consumption tax hike.
Also, Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin faced stock problems.
For next week:
- Girls Mode 3 (Style Savvy 3) for 3DS should top the charts next week. It's not just popular among young girls, but also among 20 years old girls. Good amount of pre-orders and long term sales are expected too.
- The second place is expected for the PS4 version of Dying Light.
Moor-Angol
Banned
at least the screen is multitouch, I never understand how you can play Taiko on 3DS when you can use just one stick...
it will be impressive if it stays above 20K. i m expecting PS4 to fall below 20k around 18k.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
What like PS4/3/V? Might as well put it on every system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT7QsDjD91E
He fails at the end after happyaku combo lol
Namco usually releases a summer portable entry and a holiday home console entry.
Since Vita is getting this year's summer entry I'm guessing that PS4 could follow
it will be just PS3 lol
Eolz
Member
First one isn't surprising at all, but isn't the second statement pretty surprising?
Moor-Angol
Banned
ok, but combo hits can't be done
In one of the slowest weeks of the year? Naah
I wonder if you (or someone else) will have comparison chart with GM2?
Also, looking at Famitsu leak, it looks like Squeenix wasn't willing to make as big a cheque as they did back in 2012
(36/40 for BSecond vs 38/40 for BDefault)
Ah cheers, really appreciated.
GM2 actually came out a few weeks before Animal Crossing (which is another game that managed to grab the 20yo women audience usually playing on smartphones, iirc), so curious to see the impact of the (much) bigger userbase on GM3.
Also, I believe MM3D is doing quite well. I believe we'll see it back for GW.
So, Star Ocean 5, what can we expect from it?
You should expect a game that has a lot to prove to people. Star Ocean 3 and 4 aren't the most well loved.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
If the game isn't that far along in development, that means we're getting games in 2016 that are still multiplat on PS3/PS4.... jeez.
Well cool for the Vita. Maybe that Minecraft/Hatsune Miku audience will buy the game =)
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Really? I thought SO4 was when things went south. I know SO2 is considered the best.
Star Ocean 3 had a stupid twist that everyone hated.
So adding in today's series of announcements, Square Enix's upcoming line-up consists of the following.
Immediate Future (1-3 months):
-Mobius Final Fantasy (iOS/Android)
-Bravely Second (3DS)
-Dragon Quest X Episode 2 (PC/Wii/Wii U/is this coming to 3DS?)
-Final Fantasy: Heavensward (PC/PS3/PS4)
Future:
-Final Fantasy XV (XB1/PS4)
-Kingdom Hearts 3 (XB1/PS4)
-Star Ocean 5 (PS4/PS3)
-Dragon Quest Heroes 2 (PS4/PS3/Vita)
-SaGa (Vita)
-Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Arcade, PS4 one year later)
-School of Ragnarok (Arcade)
-Lords of Vermillion MOBA (PC)
-Rampage Land Rankers (iOS/Android)
-Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius (iOS/Android)
-Spelunker Z (PS4/PS3, f2p)
And to cover their other half, Eidos:
-Tomb Raider 10 (360/XB1)
-Deus Ex 4 (PC/PS4/XB1)
-Just Cause 3 (PC/PS4/XB1)
-Nosgoth (PC, f2p)
-Triad Wars (PC - Facebook style game)
-Lara Croft: Relic Run (iOS/Android)
They've also semi-announced Hitman 6 (presumably PC/PS4/XB1) and a Kingdom Hearts "smartphone-specific development" (assuredly iOS/Android).
Overall they actually seem to be sticking to their new strategy. On the Western side that involved having a notable amount of AAA titles mixed with some mid-sized online titles (along with some mobile tie-ins). On the Japanese side it involved notably fewer AAA titles, quite a few mid-tier titles, and eight zillion smaller (usually mobile) games.
Now, this isn't super different than before, but the most notable change is that they seem to be wheeling out more mid-sized games again and strengthening their arcade line-up. The mobile games usually have a pretty short reveal to release window so they're not as well captured in this chart, but they've released something like I think it's 8+ games this year on that front.
Immediate Future (1-3 months):
-Mobius Final Fantasy (iOS/Android)
-Bravely Second (3DS)
-Dragon Quest X Episode 2 (PC/Wii/Wii U/is this coming to 3DS?)
-Final Fantasy: Heavensward (PC/PS3/PS4)
Future:
-Final Fantasy XV (XB1/PS4)
-Kingdom Hearts 3 (XB1/PS4)
-Star Ocean 5 (PS4/PS3)
-Dragon Quest Heroes 2 (PS4/PS3/Vita)
-SaGa (Vita)
-Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Arcade, PS4 one year later)
-School of Ragnarok (Arcade)
-Lords of Vermillion MOBA (PC)
-Rampage Land Rankers (iOS/Android)
-Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius (iOS/Android)
-Spelunker Z (PS4/PS3, f2p)
And to cover their other half, Eidos:
-Tomb Raider 10 (360/XB1)
-Deus Ex 4 (PC/PS4/XB1)
-Just Cause 3 (PC/PS4/XB1)
-Nosgoth (PC, f2p)
-Triad Wars (PC - Facebook style game)
-Lara Croft: Relic Run (iOS/Android)
They've also semi-announced Hitman 6 (presumably PC/PS4/XB1) and a Kingdom Hearts "smartphone-specific development" (assuredly iOS/Android).
Overall they actually seem to be sticking to their new strategy. On the Western side that involved having a notable amount of AAA titles mixed with some mid-sized online titles (along with some mobile tie-ins). On the Japanese side it involved notably fewer AAA titles, quite a few mid-tier titles, and eight zillion smaller (usually mobile) games.
Now, this isn't super different than before, but the most notable change is that they seem to be wheeling out more mid-sized games again and strengthening their arcade line-up. The mobile games usually have a pretty short reveal to release window so they're not as well captured in this chart, but they've released something like I think it's 8+ games this year on that front.
Spelunker Z is already out.
https://store.playstation.com/#!/ja-jp/ゲーム/みんなでスペランカーz/cid=JP0082-CUSA01035_00-MINSPEZPS4000000
There's also Dragon Quest XI which was confirmed by Horii. Anyway, it's great to see the Japanese side releasing more games on consoles.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
KH collection, FF12 HD, DQ11 and FF Type 1 are safe bets for the future as well. My opinion of SE has really changed from the start of this gen. Their output is looking really good in my eyes.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Don't forget that they are also releasing a lot of their classics on new platforms like FFVII on PS4 and X|X-2 HD Remaster. Pretty sure that we are also getting KH1.5/2.5 on PS4 next year and possibly XII HD Remaster.
I forgot Dragon Quest HD Remaster but Verendus confirmed that one too, so I am sure it is coming as well. The next Dragon Quest could be mainline release on the PS4 followed by the HD remaster release on the PS4.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
oh man if DQ8 HD turns out to be real. Iirc the Nier director was said to be working on a game and Toriyama is working on something unannounced.
Is SaGa internally developed?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I've really got to ask, what exactly happened to 3DS support? I guess they are just more Western focused for consoles and mobile for JP (and the West here too)?
Has SE ever given extensive support? Aside from the Theater games, the Default series (which they farmed out, and didn't bother to localize), and Explorers... I can't think of much of note. (DQM?)
In the past few months, they released in Japan Final Fantasy: Explorers, Theatrhythm: DQ and they're soon releasing Bravely Second. Basically, 3 games in 5 months (FF: Explorers released in December, and BS comes this April), it sounds good to me. I'm sure something else for 3DS will be announced in the future, like DQ: Monsters. Maybe a FF: Explorers "G" as well.
It's probably just winding down at this point but it's somewhat surprising.
I'm still not sure we should assume DQM is on 3DS. It's still noticeable that they haven't announced anything 3DS in a while, wouldn't be surprised if they are done with the platform after Bravely Second.
In the same way we must have assumed MH main projects are surely going to Sony platforms because "MONEY, BITCHES?!?!?!", Oregano?
The fact is that...I can't see Square stopping developing on the biggest selling traditional Japanese platform right after Bravely Second. I don't get what would be the sense.
@Vena: While it could have done more, Square support has been very present on 3DS (especially Japan, due to DQ games).
Yes, this is probably true in a retrospective way for me after thinking about it more.
That said, the 3DS should be winding down and the NX/4DS/Wii8 dev kits should be things that are materializing in some sense or other and finding their way into the hands of the bigger pubs.
In the same way we must have assumed MH main projects are surely going to Sony platforms because "MONEY, BITCHES?!?!?!", Oregano?
The fact is that...I can't see Square stopping developing on the biggest selling traditional Japanese platform right after Bravely Second. I don't get what would be the sense.
@Vena: While it could have done more, Square support has been very present on 3DS (especially Japan, due to DQ games).
The MH stuff has nothing to do with this but nothing has ruled out Sony platforms for MH5. MH Stories might indicate they are sticking with Nintendo platforms but it is also aimed at a younger audience which makes it a natural fit for 3DS. We've also seen more and more examples of Sony actively courting devs with the new Dissidia.
Square Enix could easily consider the 3DS as nearing the end of its life and prefer to concentrate resources on systems with a longer future. The fact that 3DS can't use a lot of their tech is also a notable factor.
The recent western growth of the brand (MH) under Nintendo's marketing arm and deal with the N3DS would seem to be much the same sort of "courting", just that this time its marked by a resounding success in market penetration and sales.
It would seem an odd move given said recent successes, to go chasing other geese in hopes they also lay golden eggs (as you'd have to throw the 18mil/established Japanese fanbase under the bus to chase it). It could go the way of multi-plat but that'd be some burgeoning development budgets in that case, and I don't know if Capcom can afford such a thing even if others sit down to fund it.
SE just released two 3DS games, and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they only had like one more title left in planning before we get the next Nintendo platform.
I don't really understand why Capcom would want to take MH back to Sony platforms at this point.
I don't really understand why Capcom would want to take MH back to Sony platforms at this point.
PlayStation MH5 isn't happening. The best indicator for gauging pro-PS betrayalatons is Verendus and if you compare his comments re:MH versus say DQ it's pretty obvious.
DarkLordMalik
Member
AFAIK, he is an employee at Sony. Most of his reveals have been proven true so far with time. Not all of them are true, however.
Regarding 3DS support, don't count the Vita out. SE is definitely looking into Vita s well, as confirmed by Kagari. She said something along the lines of don't underestimate SE's support for Vita after DQH 2 was revealed.
I don't really want to get into it again but many people expressed similar sentiments after Portable 3rd.
By the time MH5 is out the 3DS will be done with, especially now that MH Stories is announced for 2016. They wouldn't really be giving up any userbase.
I don't necessarily think it's the best course of action, just a very possible one
Hero of Legend
Member
sörine;160147819 said:
What did Verendus say?
One could argue that Nintendo's handhelds, at least in Japan, have pretty good generational traction. The fanbase moves with the hardware, so to speak, to a large degree. (On top of the fact that Nintendo's own software or affiliates therein, are some of the biggest muscles in the industry in Japan at this point, which is obviously going to be limited to their hardware.) The question then becomes, how much of an overlap is there in the fanbases that Nintendo will bring vs. what Capcom hopes will carry over for MH vs. what Level-5 will move, etc.
Obviously this isn't necessarily a blanket truth, as can be seen with the PSP/Vita collapse, and the general consolidation of the handheld market and rise of mobile.
Fascinating. Adding to my list of "in the knows".
I don't see why they would count out the Vita (they have a fanbase to sell to, after all, even if sales keep falling YoY on the hardware front). They've been supporting it for a while now, and the more titles they can port then the more they can fight off fatigue, same with the PS3. But I'm not sure what that has to do with 3DS support.
Honestly, the way this generation has been going (particularly in Japan and the continue life of the PS3), I wouldn't be surprised if we see the WiiU live a longer-than-expected life while the next handheld basically "merges" with it software wise for the most part, everything is effectively top-level coding/development at this point. I don't know how much Nintendo has to gain from new console hardware at the moment, or if there's any reason for them to expect any more of a success than what the WiiU can already do/has done. It'll give them shinnier graphics but from a development standpoint they are already in HD and I don't think they want any part of the race-to-the-end nature of AAA development now.
I guess they could fix the WiiU's glacial OS and feature-set.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
It's because it's easy to port? Honestly, the Vita's limited userbase in the West is always going to be a huge hamper on SqEnix or other companies putting anything exclusive on Vita. The ease of porting to Vita is what gets it software, just like I'd think could be far more palatable to release software on Nintendo platforms if the 3DS & Wii U had something similar.
For fun... (Famitsu #s)
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2015 releases with known sales over 100K LTD
PS3 Dragon Quest Heroes 311,277 440,683 Square Enix 2015-02-26
3DS Legend of Zelda - Majora's Mask 3D - 433,996 - 2015-02-14
PS3 Tales of Zestiria 316,824 362,145 Bandai Namco 2015-01-22
PSV God Eater 2: Rage Burst 221,076 314,415 Bandai Namco 2015-02-19
PS4 Dragon Quest Heroes 255,292 311,939 Square Enix 2015-02-26
PS3 Yakuza 0: Chikai no Basho 161,179 220,784 SEGA 2015-03-12
PS4 Bloodborne 150,245 173,802 SCE 2015-03-26
PSV Sword Art Online: Lost Song 125,441 149,264 Bandai Namco 2015-03-26
PS4 Yakuza 0: Chikai no Basho 101,656 126,773 SEGA 2015-03-12
PS4 Final Fantasy Type-0 HD 91,093 109,519 Square Enix 2015-03-19
WIU Mario Party 10 51,452 108,536 Nintendo 2015-03-12
PS3 Super Robot Wars Z III: Tengoku Hen 105,072 105,072 Bandai Namco 2015-04-02
PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 81,387 104,880 Bandai Namco 2015-03-26
(really close + probably will hit/have hit)
PS3 Resident Evil: Revelations 2 73,074 99,293 Capcom 2015-03-19
PSV Super Robot Wars Z III: Tengoku Hen 98,624 98,624 Bandai Namco 2015-04-02
Games with legs (2015 sales - including week 1) over 100K this year so far:
3DS Youkai Watch 2: Shin Uchi - 544,210
3DS Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire - 309,386
3DS Super Smash Bros. 3DS - 228,516
WIU Super Smash Bros. WIU - 144,366
3DS Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate - 143,385
WIU Mario Kart 8 - 111,837
Random craziness - Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 57,420Moor-Angol
Banned
add Minecraft to "really close / probably will"
that would mean PSV 4 - 3DS 1 eh eh eh
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
add Minecraft to "really close / probably will"
that would mean PSV 4 - 3DS 1 eh eh eh
I was debating Minecraft, but considering its digital release in 2014, until its retail release crosses 100K (which I'm sure it will), I didn't want to list it yet.
I don't know what Square Enix could release on Vita at this point that would excite people. Dissidia would've been a no brainer, but it looks like Sony couldn't let that happen. I can't see it getting KH anything, other than ports, which are already highly unlikely. Lord of Vermillion co-op action games should probably stay dead. Vita doesn't seem to be a part of the chosen two for Dragon Quest. XII HD would also be a no brainer, but who's to say they won't need to sell another XV demo? Mana is supposedly getting a revival (on platforms unknown), but that name has probably been attached to more bad than good at this point. Star Ocean isn't big enough to support spinoffs and the games people would want to replay have already been released on a handheld. Million Arthur should stay on phones. I'd hope they're smart enough to not trot out Type-0 again.
oh
it's going to be final fantasy x-3 isn't it
nightmares do come true
X-3 would be a pretty big deal in the West. No way would Square make it Vita exclusive.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Best selling games on Amazon in 2015 based on pre-orders alone!
#15 - Persona 4 Dancing (PSV)
#18 - Metal Gears Solid 5 (PS4)
#21 - Dragon Quest X (Wii U)
#24 - Metal Gear Solid 5 (PS4)
#26 - Xenoblade X (Wii U)
#33 - Dragon Quest X (Wii)
#48 - Kancolle (PSV)
#57 - Puzzle & Dragons: Mario Edition (3DS)
#59 - Bravely Second (3DS)
#62 - Kancolle (PSV)
#64 - Bravely Second (3DS)
#65 - Xenoblade X (Wii U)
#68 - Girls Mode 3 (3DS)
#80 - Miku Mirai Remix (3DS)
#85 - Puzzle & Dragons: Mario Edition (3DS)
#88 - Fire Emblem If (3DS)
#15 - Persona 4 Dancing (PSV)
#18 - Metal Gears Solid 5 (PS4)
#21 - Dragon Quest X (Wii U)
#24 - Metal Gear Solid 5 (PS4)
#26 - Xenoblade X (Wii U)
#33 - Dragon Quest X (Wii)
#48 - Kancolle (PSV)
#57 - Puzzle & Dragons: Mario Edition (3DS)
#59 - Bravely Second (3DS)
#62 - Kancolle (PSV)
#64 - Bravely Second (3DS)
#65 - Xenoblade X (Wii U)
#68 - Girls Mode 3 (3DS)
this proves this list is irrelevant but i have come this far so whatever
#85 - Puzzle & Dragons: Mario Edition (3DS)
#88 - Fire Emblem If (3DS)
is number 18 supposed to be PS3 instead of PS4
Moor-Angol
Banned
sure, that's the reason I said "add to probably will"
it should be a question about just a couple of weeks, considering how solid are its sales
More telling, it's above the Wii version. I can't see the WiiU version doing better.