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Media Create Sales: Week 25, 2014 (Jun 16 - Jun 22)
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Principate
Saint Titanfall
I'm not convinced of all these many unannounced games. They either western focused or mobile bound. Still remains to be seen precisely what the mid tiers are doing,
Ah, didn't know that. I think I may have mixed that up with Inazuma Eleven.
Still, cross-gen, I reckon they'll buy it on PS3 rather than PS4.
shinra-bansho
Member
Don't they need to pay for that floorspace. Bizarre.
King Mystery
Member
I wonder how VR games will sell in Japan if they become popular and "the next big thing" every where else in the world.
Hey now, don't make me start importing these things and having to get a Japanese console.
Mobile and handhelds are substituting home consoles. That's a maybe too syntetic summary, but I think it gives you a partial idea of the situation.
Yeah. At some point they might just move to a smaller booth like a boutique publisher if all they're going to make is Metal Gear and PES.
Nightengale
Member
One could say the same thing for Yakuza, GZ, BF4, God Eater 2, Toukiden, etc.
Cross-gen games do shift hardware, even if they're not as significant shift compared to a bonafide exclusive.
Maybe behind closed doors, but not on the show floor.
That's concerning since it implies that game is no where close to being released.
Yeah but if they don't occupy it and someone else takes it then they lose it permanently apparently.
Console Limbo.
I'd probably describe them as sad but that's just me.
Do Capcom's 15 Virtual Console games count? (lol)
Those things can thrive on phones now.
Nightengale
Member
None.
They'll be made for 3DS/Vita/PS3/WiiU/mobile in Japan, and if it's a localised game that sells well internationally, they'll make a PS4 version just because whatever.
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Deleted member 125677
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Aaah, the flashbacks from Wii U post launch..
DrROBschiz
Member
You act like WiiU's campaign is over
Did everyone already forget Ps3 already?
Then again. Maybe mobile will just become too strong in the region to be overcome.
Can totally see that happening
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
I guess the only hope is that mobile gaming will serve as a gateway for younger gamers to console gaming but I kinda doubt that'll happen and, if it does, it won't be soon enough.
I guess where the next DQ game lands will be real telling of where the japanese pubs perceive that their future is at
I guess where the next DQ game lands will be real telling of where the japanese pubs perceive that their future is at
Isn't console PES made in the UK now?
Sakura
Member
How many big budget endeavors primarily focused on the Japanese market have we even been getting these past years? I honestly don't expect much to change.
And really I don't see much of a shift here in Japan compared to the last generation.
We have the Wii U, which sells like shit every where. Is it selling poorly in Japan a sign of anything? I don't believe so.
We have Xbox, which has never been strong in Japan, so when it launches, there will really be no difference than there was over a decade ago. So again, I don't see a change. And even in the west the Xbox has been underperforming these past few months.
Then we have the PS4, which has pretty much no games for the market. Is the fact it's not selling hot a sign of a changing market? Or just a sign that the games aren't there?
And again, talking about the west, consoles don't seem that great either. May for the US was what, under 400k for all 3 new systems combined? Does that mean the market is shifting in the west or that consoles are declining? I don't think so, I think it is just a matter of hardware and software the market isn't as interested in as they were in the past, same with Japan.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's mostly because the 3DS has at least already sold 15 million which shows albeit significantly decreased life but life one the less in the platform. Consoles are completely dead.
Actually to follow this up:
10. Gundam Conquest
20. ONEPIECE TREASURE CRUISE
24. GUNDAM　AREAWARS
30. SD GUNDAM GGENERATION FRONTIER
32. JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE : STARDUST SHOOTERS
39. HUNTER×HUNTER BATTLE ALLSTARS
46. KAMEN RIDER RIDERBOUT!
It keeps going for a while.
Co-developed I believe.sörine;118166642 said:
Yeah, companies like S-E have already made the transition. A game like Seiken Densetsu or the next entry for the Saga games would have been an AA release somewhere on a handheld 5 years back. Today, they just release it on iOS:
Like this current one:
"Emperor Saga" × "Seiken Densetsu RISE of MANA"
Despite on how I feel current S-E being totally mismanaged, at least their mobile divisions is being productive and making games on time, and being profitable. They're staying on trend, at least to that respect.
gundam had a run rip in peace
PS3 didn't get many BN licensed games until late into its life. Most of their games look like PS2.5 stuff so 4DS/3DS, Vita and mobile will absorb those. Dragon Ball and Naruto sell a tonne better in the west so they'll continue to be made.
1st Course
Member
Can't think of anything missing. Very weak showing.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I didn't even notice it was below on famitsu... damn....
DrROBschiz
Member
Depends
Will mobile games and trends retain a level of quality that retains our attention for years to come
You can only play so many f2P match 3 games before you get sick of it...
Or maybe I am just a dying breed of gamer
djplaeskool
Member
Compile Heart will single-handedly kick off the rise of the PS4 in Japan.
Just wait and see guys.
You can't resist the NepNep.
Just wait and see guys.
You can't resist the NepNep.
shinra-bansho
Member
Oh I don't think there's a huge shift either, Japan has hugely diminished in importance in AAA console gaming. And I can only think of a few properties that are bigger, relatively speaking, budget and primarily Japan focused, like Yakuza and Tales.
That said a third of the sales for something like Final Fantasy XIII came from Japan.
That happened weeks ago. Every week PS4 is creeping closer and closer to Dreamcast figures.
The indie scene in Japan hasn't evolved either to pick up the slack in any way.
We're going to enter a very rough patch for game development in the near future.
Bloodborne won't sell that well. Dark Souls games sell aruond 300-400k LTD.
I don't think this will do much better. It'll move some consoles because PS4 sales by its release date will be quite low.
It's going to be sad to see PS4 sales this Christmas unless something unexpected happens.
I think Hotaru no Nikki sales are so low because it was a limited retail edition. So they didn't ship so many units. The game was a digital only release iirc.
Well, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Tecmo will have something else to show for the PS4. Some musou game, probably.
Capcom has that F2P Deep Down beta launching this summer, right? Though I don't see a F2P game boosting sales.
Bamco may announce a PS4 port for their yearly Naruto game.
And knowing Square Type-0 HD won't be ready until Fall 2015.
SEGA releases almost one Yakuza game each year now, right?
ouch.
Sakura
Member
I just don't understand the constant talk like the Japanese market is somehow getting worse than it was. When are these people comparing to? Let's look back 7 years ago, PS3 was at 9,581 Xbox 360 at 3,369, and the Wii at 65,582. What's the big difference here? The Wii U is not making up for the Wii sales, but again, that's the same every where not unique to Japan. So why are people always talking about this Japan console doom? Japan has pretty much always been like this.
As for big budget Japanese centric games, that was always going to be the case because the west will always be a bigger market than Japan and as development costs rise it doesn't make sense to make them any more. The majority of Japanese games have always been decidedly not big budget though, so I really don't see a big shift, except maybe for western gamers.
DeuceGamer
Member
This has become the most depressing thread on Gaf....So sad!
KillerMan91
Member
Week 25, 2007 (Jun 16 - Jun 22)
Week 25, 2014 (Jun 16 - Jun 22)
Code:
1. NDS - 163,918 | 118,684 | 3,814,038 | 17,819,717
2. WII - 65,582 | 65,521 | 1,880,933 | 2,800,576
3. PSP - 32,984 | 33,359 | 1,044,842 | 5,576,971
4. PS2 - 11,962 | 11,974 | 404,057 | 20,558,916
5. PS3 - 9,581 | 9,481 | 481,017 | 938,575
6. 360 - 3,369 | 7,583 | 115,429 | 380,131
7. GBA - 414 | 867 | 40,232 | 15,338,311
8. NGC - 82 | 223 | 8,308 | 4,177,776Week 25, 2014 (Jun 16 - Jun 22)
Code:
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS # | 26.311 | 26.575 | 43.269 | 1.036.955 | 1.884.537 | 15.698.875 |
| PSV # | 13.381 | 14.735 | 13.422 | 621.578 | 508.995 | 2.976.935 |
| WIU | 10.715 | 12.249 | 5.329 | 276.166 | 325.941 | 1.801.596 |
| PS4 | 7.009 | 8.395 | | 612.560 | | 612.560 |
| PS3 | 6.339 | 6.564 | 9.816 | 287.672 | 460.745 | 9.997.346 |
| PSP # | 2.335 | 4.325 | 5.091 | 90.109 | 290.605 | 20.158.518 |
| 360 | 214 | 231 | 282 | 6.465 | 14.945 | 1.645.781 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Gaming for the general population in Japan is pretty much limited to commutes and work breaks. VR could do well as an arcade attraction; as home gear probably not. Although there will always be tech enthusiasts who buy it (like current xbox owners).
Principate
Saint Titanfall
What do you mean the mid tiers in Japan were main thing driving the PS3 for years, as far as slack pulling they have been doing far longer and likely greater than even the indies currently have. The difference is I imagine they're either on the PSV or mobile.
We do not not know if they'll return in any great amount.
