Media Create Sales: Week 31, 2017 (Jul 31 - Aug 06)

Ridley327

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Japan is really feeling it these days. Great to see.

I wonder what Shu Takumi will do next after these DGS sales.
He's long overdue for a new IP, though given how poorly Ghost Trick did everywhere, Capcom may not think as strongly unless he can keep the budget low.
 

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Switch is a monster right now, and it will only get crazier from this point on, I have a feeling 2018 will be a crazy year for the Switch, and not because Pokemon may or may not come, but wow, its selling well
 
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Wow, where have they been hiding all of these units? Any word on the ratio of normal Switches to Splatoon 2 bundles? A large amount of bundles might help explain why the other software isn't seeing a bump.
I guess they were serious when they said they increased production. Perhaps now we're seeing that kick in finally.

I'm a little disappointed too that we have such a nice amount of Switches sold this week but ARMS and BotW didn't get a positive bump.
 

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Zelda has a 40% attach rate and we are talking about Japan not buying or liking Zelda. Really?
Yeah it's also outsold every entry but OoT and PH. BotW is a huge success for the series in Japan and will likely continue selling for a long time.
BotW has outsold games like Majora's Mask, Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess and it's still not done selling so I don't think that's true.
BotW reinvented the Zelda formula by taking it in a direction that appealed more to Western people. Japan hasn't responded well to games similar to BotW in the past. So for it to be doing as well as it is doing is a very good sign.
Wow, where have they been hiding all of these units? Any word on the ratio of normal Switches to Splatoon 2 bundles? A large amount of bundles might help explain why the other software isn't seeing a bump.
They always spoke of a big increase in Switch production around this time.
 

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I am surprised that people thought crash would do good in Japan .
The people that made crash big back in the day most likely stop playing console games or on mobile.
Good hold for hardware and for DQXI.
 

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I wonder if Switch stock is a bit shell shocked from Splatoon 2 launch anyways and we might see it a bit higher, similar to when MK8D launched.
Could be. This is very likely an in-between sandwiched between two weeks of Splatoon 2 bloeit and two weeks of Obon sales, so it's plausibel that the baseline could turn out to be a tad higher than 60k, something like 70k or so.
 
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I guess they were serious when they said they increased production. Perhaps now we're seeing that kick in finally.

I'm a little disappointed too that we have such a nice amount of Switches sold this week but ARMS and BotW didn't get a positive bump.
I agree I thought we might see more of a bump but they continue to sell ok numbers. Zelda is still on track to end up one of the highest ever selling Zelda titles and arms is heading towards a more than respectable life time sales.
 

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Bic Camera lotteries will give a more clear picture now that the sample is big enough but early hints from retailer blogs so far are that this will be a big week for Switch shipments, likely bigger than Splatoon 2 launch.
Wonder if this might contribute to Splatoon 2 holding much better this week.
 

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Switch is a monster right now, and it will only get crazier from this point on, I have a feeling 2018 will be a crazy year for the Switch, and not because Pokemon may or may not come, but wow, its selling well
Agreed i remember the Switch reveal thread even i was sceptic. But damn Switch is doing pretty well.

The crazyness will only increase after MHXX (for Japan) and Mario Odyssey (World Wide) are out.

And don't get me started whenever the game bundles happen where you can buy a Switch for standard price with a game included.

The holiday/Winter season is gonna be crazy for sure hopefully they can produce some good stock for that period tho.
 

Zedark

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I guess they were serious when they said they increased production. Perhaps now we're seeing that kick in finally.

I'm a little disappointed too that we have such a nice amount of Switches sold this week but ARMS and BotW didn't get a positive bump.
It is a bit disappointing for sure. An explanation could be that the sheer amount of Splatoon 2 bundle decrease the chance of a bump other games could have had (Splatoon 2 bundle make up 2/3 of shipments).
 

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Idk why Japan won't buy Zelda more. I mean Nintendo even changed the structure of the game and it doesn't appeal to them compared to the rest of the world.
Perhaps it is useful for me to point out that there are a lot of used copies of Zelda out there now. The game has been out for a while and many people sold it after they beat it (in Japan you can still get a good payout for your old games, it's not like Gamestop).

So I bet the actual number of Japanese Switch owners that have played Zelda is higher than the sales indicate.

For example. A friend of mine was lucky enough to get a Splatoon 2 bundle. He of course bought the system bundle new but he bought Zelda used (which in Japan means mint condition used). He figured "why not save 1000 yen?" The switch games have no manuals, codes, or discs to scratch they don't even have batteries with old save games to clear. Only thing missing is the shrink wrap. Oh and I guess the assurance that no one might have licked the game card.

Zelda is not a game like Splatoon 2 or Mario Kart, where you want to keep it around for online play or when friends visit. I know there is DLC stuff but a lot of people are just going to play the main game and trade it in for the next big thing while it still has value.

This is of course not true for just Zelda. Pretty much any single player focused game on any system will have this.

I'm sure the number of people who played FFXV is a lot higher as well. Used copies of that game are dirt cheap. Many customers have little reason to buy the game new at this point.

I have no actual numbers to show as no one really tracks used sales in a meaningful way. But just something I thought I would bring up.

EDIT: There are indeed numbers as Chris1964 has pointed out. The most recent can be found here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1078514
 

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It is a bit disappointing for sure. An explanation could be that the sheer amount of Splatoon 2 bundle decrease the chance of a bump other games could have had (Splatoon 2 bundle make up 2/3 of shipments).
That's pretty much what is happening here. You're looking at 40K bundles being sold here, some people might be happy with just one game right out of the gate, especially when it's a multiplayer title like Splatoon 2 that they can play all the time.
 

Ridley327

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What was their reason to not bring over the first one, again?
I think they cited low western sales for the mainline titles, but a lot of people who imported it mentioned that there's no way to localize it in a "Japanifornia" way, as it the story deals really heavily in cultural moors of Japan of that time that wouldn't translate all that well in a direct manner.
 

Zedark

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Wonder if this might contribute to Splatoon 2 holding much better this week.
The number of Splatoon 2 bundles alone would probably ensure that, Let alone when you add separate purchases.



About the message from Nintendo from several weeks ago: They mention increased production for the fall, on top of increased shipments for July and August. Could we see a 3ds-like situation where massive numbers are throughout the fall and monstrous numbers during december? Would be awesome.
 

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It is a bit disappointing for sure. An explanation could be that the sheer amount of Splatoon 2 bundle decrease the chance of a bump other games could have had (Splatoon 2 bundle make up 2/3 of shipments).
That's a crazy ratio and makes complete sense in that context. That would mean that just over 20K of the units did not have splatoon packed in. If you add Zelda+MK its about 19K units. Given, a lot of those non-bundles people probably bought splatoon, so in that context it makes sense.
 

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Is PS4 baseline going to be increased by couple of thousands in Japan after DQ XI? PS4 can hit 2 million this calendar year in Japan. Is there anything worthwhile releasing in Holidays for Japan?
Earth Defense Force 5 was supposed to be out in the summer but it got delayed. Hoping it's out before Christmas.
 

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Perhaps it is useful for me to point out that there are a lot of used copies of Zelda out there now. The game has been out for a while and many people sold it after they beat it (in Japan you can still get a good payout for your old games, it's not like Gamestop).

So I bet the actual number of Japanese Switch owners that have played Zelda is higher than the sales indicate.

For example. A friend of mine was lucky enough to get a Splatoon 2 bundle. He of course bought the system bundle new but he bought Zelda used (which in Japan means mint condition used). He figured "why not save 1000 yen?" The switch games have no manuals, codes, or discs to scratch they don't even have batteries with old save games to clear. Only thing missing is the shrink wrap. Oh and I guess the assurance that no one might have licked the game card.

Zelda is not a game like Splatoon 2 or Mario Kart, where you want to keep it around for online play or when friends visit. I know there is DLC stuff but a lot of people are just going to play the main game and trade it in for the next big thing while it still has value.

This is of course not true for just Zelda. Pretty much any single player focused game on any system will have this.

I'm sure the number of people who played FFXV is a lot higher as well. Used copies of that game are dirt cheap. Many customers have little reason to buy the game new at this point.

I have no actual numbers to show as no one really tracks used sales in a meaningful way. But just something I thought I would bring up.
This is something that a lot of people, including myself, don't really take into account.

I wonder if the Zelda season pass was to somewhat counter this.
 

Chris1964

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I have no actual numbers to show as no one really tracks used sales in a meaningful way. But just something I thought I would bring up.
Used sales are counted from all trackers,.

We know used market is huge since ever, it's not a current phenomenon.
 

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Idk why Japan won't buy Zelda more. I mean Nintendo even changed the structure of the game and it doesn't appeal to them compared to the rest of the world.
depends how much they would've dropped without the new launches??
Agreed. It's not that they're doing bad - BoTW has pretty good numbers - but that they could do better. The small install base and solid lineup may be limiting the potential of some games.

Perhaps it is useful for me to point out that there are a lot of used copies of Zelda out there now. The game has been out for a while and many people sold it after they beat it (in Japan you can still get a good payout for your old games, it's not like Gamestop).

So I bet the actual number of Japanese Switch owners that have played Zelda is higher than the sales indicate.

For example. A friend of mine was lucky enough to get a Splatoon 2 bundle. He of course bought the system bundle new but he bought Zelda used (which in Japan means mint condition used). He figured "why not save 1000 yen?" The switch games have no manuals, codes, or discs to scratch they don't even have batteries with old save games to clear. Only thing missing is the shrink wrap. Oh and I guess the assurance that no one might have licked the game card.

Zelda is not a game like Splatoon 2 or Mario Kart, where you want to keep it around for online play or when friends visit. I know there is DLC stuff but a lot of people are just going to play the main game and trade it in for the next big thing while it still has value.

This is of course not true for just Zelda. Pretty much any single player focused game on any system will have this.

I'm sure the number of people who played FFXV is a lot higher as well. Used copies of that game are dirt cheap. Many customers have little reason to buy the game new at this point.

I have no actual numbers to show as no one really tracks used sales in a meaningful way. But just something I thought I would bring up.
Good post, I didn't consider this.

Edit: Oh, so those are tracked.
 

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If the n-2DSLL continues to sell the most, can we change the 3DS to 2DS in the general system list? :p
 
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Bic Camera lotteries will give a more clear picture now that the sample is big enough but early hints from retailer blogs so far are that this will be a big week for Switch shipments, likely bigger than Splatoon 2 launch.
Another great week for Switch incoming...

Also, MHXX Switch launches on 25th. Should perform nicely. I'm hoping for 250k.
 

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Zelda is still selling rather well for this kind of game on a limited installed base - dont think there is any reason for damage control.
 

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All these have been mentioned at last thread

(Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 Set):(Nintendo Switch Neon Blue / Neon Red + Nintendo Switch Gray) = 2:1
Ah I was wondering if that was still true for this week and next week, since the currently tracked week is 2 weeks out from the Splatoon 2 launch. Are we expecting this ratio to hold true for the foreseeable future?

I guess they were serious when they said they increased production. Perhaps now we're seeing that kick in finally.

I'm a little disappointed too that we have such a nice amount of Switches sold this week but ARMS and BotW didn't get a positive bump.
They always spoke of a big increase in Switch production around this time.
It's more that I was expecting a bigger drop due to the huge numbers the past two weeks, thinking that they would have run out of whatever units were stockpiled. If their increased production lets them ship this many units and stockpile even more (like for Obon next week) then that's a very encouraging sign.
 

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The holiday/Winter season is gonna be crazy for sure hopefully they can produce some good stock for that period tho.
I have hopes they can. NAND chip shortages is a real thing and still is, but at least Apple should have their production settled on the new iPhones at this point so they won't be janking as much of the supply for now.
 

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Another great week for Switch incoming...

Also, MHXX Switch launches on 25th. Should perform nicely. I'm hoping for 250k.
First week? If Nintendo makes 150k bundles, maybe.

Ah I was wondering if that was still true for this week and next week, since the currently tracked week is 2 weeks out from the Splatoon 2 launch. Are we expecting this ratio to hold true for the foreseeable future?
Saturday/Sunday lotteries are close, we'll get an idea.
 
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Crazy how healthy the 3DS is right now.

Really performing more like a Sony system in its golden years than a typical Nintendo system. I wonder how high it can go... 25 million is probably out of the questions. But perhaps 24 million when all is said and done?
First week? If Nintendo makes 150k bundles, maybe.
I was talking LTD. Am I lowballing?
 

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So how's the Switch doing now when you align the launch time with other systems?
It's ahead of 3DS now (likely gonna battle back and forth somewhat or be completely outpaced by 3DS soon) and well ahead of Wii U, PSV and PS4.
 

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Perhaps it is useful for me to point out that there are a lot of used copies of Zelda out there now. The game has been out for a while and many people sold it after they beat it (in Japan you can still get a good payout for your old games, it's not like Gamestop).

So I bet the actual number of Japanese Switch owners that have played Zelda is higher than the sales indicate.

For example. A friend of mine was lucky enough to get a Splatoon 2 bundle. He of course bought the system bundle new but he bought Zelda used (which in Japan means mint condition used). He figured "why not save 1000 yen?" The switch games have no manuals, codes, or discs to scratch they don't even have batteries with old save games to clear. Only thing missing is the shrink wrap. Oh and I guess the assurance that no one might have licked the game card.

Zelda is not a game like Splatoon 2 or Mario Kart, where you want to keep it around for online play or when friends visit. I know there is DLC stuff but a lot of people are just going to play the main game and trade it in for the next big thing while it still has value.

This is of course not true for just Zelda. Pretty much any single player focused game on any system will have this.

I'm sure the number of people who played FFXV is a lot higher as well. Used copies of that game are dirt cheap. Many customers have little reason to buy the game new at this point.

I have no actual numbers to show as no one really tracks used sales in a meaningful way. But just something I thought I would bring up.
That's an interesting take. That definitely takes away from new game sales so we never really know how many people played the game.
 
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Crazy how healthy the 3DS is right now.

Really performing more like a Sony system in its golden years than a typical Nintendo system. I wonder how high it can go... 25 million is probably out of the questions. But perhaps 24 million when all is said and done?
It should pass 24 once Ultra Sun/Moon is out. I don't think 25 lifetime is out of the question at all but I guess it will start slowing down next year.
 

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It's ahead of 3DS now (likely gonna battle back and forth somewhat or be completely outpaced by 3DS soon) and well ahead of Wii U, PSV and PS4.
Yeah, it'LL be really interesting. 3ds has the price drop coming, but Switch seems poised for two big weeks of shipments for Obon. The big question is what the fall will look like for Switch.
 

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That's an interesting take. That definitely takes away from new game sales so we never really know how many people played the game.
We kinda do. Like Chris1964 mentioned, used game sales are also tracked. These are published in the White Pages every year i think.
 

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Crazy how healthy the 3DS is right now.

Really performing more like a Sony system in its golden years than a typical Nintendo system. I wonder how high it can go... 25 million is probably out of the questions. But perhaps 24 million when all is said and done?

I was talking LTD. Am I lowballing?
It's almost sold 1m this year in the first 7 months with the holiday season still ahead and is up over last year, it should sell 24m LTD by the end of the calendar year, and if next year sales drop 50%, it would make 25m LTD, now 26m? that is probably not going to happen.
 

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I'm really curious if Nintendo will be able to ship sth. like 50-60k Switch consoles for the foreseeable future. And if it keeps on selling out of course.
 

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Yeah, it'LL be really interesting. 3ds has the price drop coming, but Switch seems poised for two big weeks of shipments for Obon. The big question is what the fall will look like for Switch.
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