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[Immaculate]

2.1 million.

should've been more specific, is that launch day or week? MH4 could probably do 2 million on launch

 

[ohlawd]

should've been more specific, is that launch day or week? MH4 could probably do 2 million on launch

in its first five days.

 

[Aquamarine]

Now that Dengeki finally fixed their display error, we can see total software sales for Week 33.

I updated my old post with the following data:

[B]DENGEKI TOTAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE SALES
Week 33, 2013 (Aug 12 - Aug 18)[/B]

[U][B]SYSTEM		SALES		SALES(%)	L.WEEK		L.WEEK(%)	FY 2013 SALES	FY 2013(%)	FY 2013 (L.WEEK %)[/B][/U]
												
[B]SOFTWARE SALES:[/B]

PS3		89,960		14.7%		90,083		15.5%		3,170,212	24.9%		25.4%
Vita		34,834		5.7%		34,096		5.9%		963,311		7.6%		7.7%
PSP		61,199		10.0%		53,187		9.2%		1,576,816	12.4%		12.5%
Wii U		36,945		6.0%		30,805		5.3%		508,874		4.0%		3.9%
Wii		30,948		5.0%		20,957		3.6%		425,448		3.3%		3.3%
3DS		342,747		55.9%		335,747		57.9%		5,723,922	45.0%		44.4%
DS		12,017		2.0%		9,299		1.6%		187,521		1.5%		1.4%
X360		4,285		0.7%		5,685		1.0%		172,232		1.4%		1.4%
Total		612,935		100.0%		579,859		100.0%		12,728,336	100.0%		100.0%
												
[B]HARDWARE SALES:[/B]

PS3		14,261		11.2%		10,919		10.9%		247,597		12.8%		12.9%
Vita		20,126		15.8%		15,687		15.6%		300,076		15.5%		15.5%
PSP		7,140		5.6%		5,716		5.7%		130,656		6.7%		6.8%
Wii U		13,556		10.7%		10,277		10.3%		192,729		9.9%		9.9%
Wii		1,822		1.4%		1,367		1.4%		24,980		1.3%		1.3%
3DS LL		47,692		37.5%		38,123		38.0%		710,948		36.7%		36.6%
3DS		22,135		17.4%		17,808		17.8%		322,357		16.6%		16.6%
X360		508		0.4%		355		0.4%		8,179		0.4%		0.4%
Total		127,240		100.0%		100,252		100.0%		1,937,522	100.0%		100.0%

[B]*Note: FY 2013 refers to the period from April 2013 through March 2014[/B]

 

[Busaiku]

What was released on PSP this year to boost its figure so high?
Can't seem to remember.

 

[Takao]

I feel like LBX Wars is the breaking point on that IP. LBX W was a flop compared to the first game. Wars is a reboot with
new characters and a switch from action RPG gameplay to SRPG.

They haven't really specified, but not confirming it makes most people think they will be sold separately.

No, they've been confirmed for separate releases on Vita in Japan. Square Enix has stated that development is further along on those builds. If Sony's smart they'll launch them as timed exclusives for Vita.

Similarly, Ragnarok Oddsey Ace's PS3 version is MIA so I doubt it'll damage the Vita's versions selling power, not that I expect it to do that well. It's not like Vita is facing a shortage of co-operative action games anymore and the word of mouth on the original release wasn't spectacular.

 

[Aquamarine]

What was released on PSP this year to boost its figure so high?
Can't seem to remember.

For FY 2013: Toukiden (148.5K), Summon Night 5 (>135K), 7th Dragon 2020-II (>114K), and a whole bunch of minor titles.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I think they'll do decent off of it but they are probably going to have to make moves to keep people playing after launch.

And that won't be an easy endeavour, especially outside of Japan. I want to say I feel sorry but I really don't.

FFX is a very beloved title in Japan and the remake would not only set the Vita as a serious competitor to the 3DS but also help out Square financially.

Yeah, I don't think that will happen.

 

[mrjohill]

I feel like LBX Wars is the breaking point on that IP. LBX W was a flop compared to the first game. Wars is a reboot with
new characters and a switch from action RPG gameplay to SRPG.

Could LBX Wars be ported over to the vita in the future? Especially if sales aren't up to snuff?

 

[Glass Rebel]

Could LBX Wars be ported over to the vita in the future? Especially if sales aren't up to snuff?

From what I can gather the PSV version of LBX W was the worst selling SKU of the entire series.

 

[jj984jj]

I feel like LBX Wars is the breaking point on that IP. LBX W was a flop compared to the first game. Wars is a reboot with
new characters and a switch from action RPG gameplay to SRPG.

It's really ugly too. Such an odd shift if it's permanent, since this will also drop the multi-player appeal.

 

[Takao]

Could LBX Wars be ported over to the vita in the future? Especially if sales aren't up to snuff?

LBX is a kid's franchise so a PSP port (wat) makes more sense than Vita. With the absurdly poor handling of this franchise it's impossible to say anything definitive.

 

[Alrus]

LBX is one of the best example of mishandling a successful new IP. It's rather impressive how quick they ran that into the ground, despite knowing what happened with their previous stuff.

Let's see how bad they can fuck up Youkai Watch now.

 

[Orgen]

Prediction League September, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Aug 26 to Sep 29):

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2.472.000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 585.000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 129.000
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 51.000
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 198.000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 137.000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 86.000
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 574.000

 

[Alrus]

I completely failed to notice the prediction for Jojo was for a month of sales, edited my predictions. I still think it might be overshooting it but we'll see.

If it really sells over 500k it'll be the most successful fighting game in a long time.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

FFX is a very beloved title in Japan and the remake would not only set the Vita as a serious competitor to the 3DS but also help out Square financially.

you are all over the place with this aren't you?

 

[Yeshua]

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2700000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 400000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 100000
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 45000
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 150000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 120000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 40000
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 550000

 

[Kenka]

Prediction League September, 2013

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 2.876.543
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle - 505.050
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR - 99.999
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 - 122.222
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki - 148.260
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD - 111.111
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars - 76.543
[3DS] Hardware - 530.000

edit: why do people give JoJo so much credit ?

 

[duckroll]

Gonna do this blind. Hope I don't end up in the bottom.

Prediction League September, 2013

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2,050,000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 650,000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 98,000
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 25,000
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 150,000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 60,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 50,000
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 615,000

 

[cafemomo]

People really overestimate FF games in Japan now. It's not late 1990's anymore.

FF is still a powerful brand and a system seller.

 

[michaelius]

I don't know why i even try after this month disaster.

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2,250,000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 450,000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 150,000
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 15,000
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 100,000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 100,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 40,000
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 550,000

 

[Fisico]

Prediction League September, 2013

edit: why do people give JoJo so much credit ?

Well we first heard of a 300k shipment then recently a 500k one, so you're cleeeearly underestimating its sales

 

[michaelius]

Or it might be biggest non Wii U non Level 5 shipment disaster this year

 

[Kenka]

Well we first heard of a 300k shipment then recently a 500k one, so you're cleeeearly underestimating its sales

Or it might be biggest non Wii U non Level 5 shipment disaster this year

Which is more likely ? I looked for JoJo games on PSP/PS3 but couldn't find any prequel. I am totally in the dark regarding this game's possible appeal.
But anyway, if they raised initial shipment from 300k to 500k, there must be a reason. I edit my post.

 

[duckroll]

edit: why do people give JoJo so much credit ?

It's a really popular manga in Japan which has been running for over 20 years, and there are tons of adult fans who grew up with it who are generally the sort to buy expensive console games. There hasn't been a serious game adaptation for a long time, and this one is a fully featured one which is specifically targeted at core fans with high production values and covers the entire series up until the current stuff. It's kinda like the Hokuto Musou situation.

 

[michaelius]

Which is more likely ? I looked for JoJo games on PSP/PS3 but couldn't find any prequel. I am totally in the dark regarding this game's possible appeal.

I was only joking - most ps3 games don't have trouble reaching at least 50% sell through on week 1.

 

[Kenka]

It's a really popular manga in Japan which has been running for over 20 years, and there are tons of adult fans who grew up with it who are generally the sort to buy expensive console games. There hasn't been a serious game adaptation for a long time, and this one is a fully featured one which is specifically targeted at core fans with high production values and covers the entire series up until the current stuff. It's kinda like the Hokuto Musou situation.

Thanks.

 

[Alrus]

I was only joking - most ps3 games don't have trouble reaching at least 50% sell through on week 1.

A 50% sell through on a game targeted at fans would be bad. Unless it's insanely good, they are usually very frontloaded.

 

[Sandfox]

Which is more likely ? I looked for JoJo games on PSP/PS3 but couldn't find any prequel. I am totally in the dark regarding this game's possible appeal.
But anyway, if they raised initial shipment from 300k to 500k, there must be a reason. I edit my post.

JoJo is pretty big in Japan with both guys and girls and it recently had an anime to spark some interest. The pre orders must've been pretty good for it to get such a big shipment.

FF is still a powerful brand and a system seller.

Its not powerful enough to bring the Vita to 3DS and turn everything around for SE.

 

[pieatorium]

A 50% sell through on a game targeted at fans would be bad. Unless it's insanely good, they are usually very frontloaded.

I don't think his comment was directed at jojo, moreso at the generally awful sellthrough of wiiu and level 5 games.

 

[Fisico]

JoJo is pretty big in Japan with both guys and girls and it recently had an anime to spark some interest. The pre orders must've been pretty good for it to get such a big shipment.

Yeah this, the sales for the anime were pretty good too (around ~20k)

 

[Glass Rebel]

FF is still a powerful brand and a system seller.

With a PS3 version that includes both versions releasing alongside the Vita versions it most likely won't do as good as you expect it.

 

[Tratorn]

Prediction League September, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Aug 26 to Sep 29):

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2.777.777
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 466.666
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 144.444
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 44.444
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 199.999
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 122.222
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 66.666
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 655.555

 

[1st Course]

Prediction League September, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Aug 26 to Sep 29):

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2.300.000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 460.000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 120.000
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 36.000
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 150.000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 90.000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 55.000
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 500.000

 

[Lexxism]

Goddamn you said this in multiple threads as well :O

"Set the Vita as a serious competitor to the 3DS"? Whoa goddamn.

You forgot that Vita is #2 in JP and has been up in YOY every month! This will seriously make 3DS run for its money and will make Vita the very best like Ash Ketchum.

 

[Chris1964]

21./27. [WIU] New Super Luigi U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.07.13} (¥3.885)
22./17. [3DS] Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger: Game de Kaburincho!! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.08} (¥4.980)
23./34. [3DS] Kuma-Tomo <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.20} (¥4.980)
24./20. [PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 <ACT> (D3 Publisher) {2013.07.04} (¥6.980)
25./22. [WIU] LEGO City Undercover <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.07.25} (¥5.985)
26./37. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
27./25. [PSP] Dangan-Ronpa (PSP the Best) # <ADV> (Spike) {2011.11.23} (¥2.940)
28./30. [PS3] The Last of Us <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.06.20} (¥5.980)
29./36. [NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.06.23} (¥4.800)
30./32. [PSV] Toukiden # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.06.27} (¥6.090)
31./39. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800)
32./33. [PSP] Toukiden <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.06.27} (¥5.040)
33./35. [3DS] Doki Doki! PreCure Narikiri Life! <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥4.980)
34./40. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985)
35./43. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040)
36./11. [3DS] Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-Kun SP: Rantou Kyousoukyoku <ACT> (Arc System Works) {2013.08.08} (¥4.649)
37./41. [PSP] God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.06} (¥1.800)
38./29. [PS3] Killer Is Dead <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.08.01} (¥7.980)
39./26. [PSV] Mind/Zero <RPG> (Acquire) {2013.08.01} (¥6.279)
40./46. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
41./47. [3DS] Aikatsu! Cinderella Lesson <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.15} (¥5.040)
42./15. [PS3] Resident Evil 6: Special Package <ADV> (Capcom) {2013.08.08} (¥3.990)
43./45. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800)
44./49. [WIU] Nintendo Land # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935)
45./42. [PSP] Super Dangan-Ronpa 2: Sayonara Zetsubou Gakuen # <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.07.26} (¥6.279)
46./00. [3DS] Puyo Puyo!! Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (Special Price) <PZL> (Sega) {2012.12.13} (¥2.940)
47./50. [3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Battle! <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.07.04} (¥5.980)
48./24. [PSP] Vitamin R # <ADV> (D3 Publisher) {2013.08.08} (¥6.090)
49./48. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
50./00. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980)

Top 50

3DS - 26
PS3 - 6
PSP - 6
WIU - 5
PSV - 3
WII - 3
NDS - 1

SOFTWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    585.000 |    554.000 |    835.000 | 26.033.000 | 30.449.000 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Vintage_Creep]

Brawl is still selling? How many copies so far?

 

[Lexxism]

SOFTWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    585.000 |    554.000 |    835.000 | 26.033.000 | 30.449.000 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wow. The software is really low this year. 4 million difference.

 

[Scum]

It's a really popular manga in Japan which has been running for over 20 years, and there are tons of adult fans who grew up with it who are generally the sort to buy expensive console games. There hasn't been a serious game adaptation for a long time, and this one is a fully featured one which is specifically targeted at core fans with high production values and covers the entire series up until the current stuff. It's kinda like the Hokuto Musou situation.

Like Kamiya.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Brawl is still selling? How many copies so far?

2,414,559

Possibly around 80k sold this year.

 

[perorist]

35./43. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040)

Can't believe this still charts consistently.

 

[michaelius]

30./30. [PSP] Dangan-Ronpa (PSP the Best) # <ADV> (Spike) {2011.11.23} (¥2.940) - 4.170 / 115.398 <80-100%> (+6%)

This is also crazy - ever since anime started it is charting each week.

And that's with Vita remake few weeks from now.

 

[1st Course]

I think the Vita overall will be a success in Japan but yeah I agree that it's not a threat for the 3DS.

I think by the end of this handheld generation we will be looking at 8-9m LTD for the Vita and 25-26m LTD for the 3DS.

 

[schuelma]

I think the Vita overall will be a success in Japan but yeah I agree that it's not a threat for the 3DS.

I think by the end of this handheld generation we will be looking at 8-9m LTD for the Vita and 25-26m LTD for the 3DS.

That seems rather high for Vita.

 

[AdventureRacing]

I think the Vita overall will be a success in Japan but yeah I agree that it's not a threat for the 3DS.

I think by the end of this handheld generation we will be looking at 8-9m LTD for the Vita and 25-26m LTD for the 3DS.

That seems highly optimistic to me and before launch i think you would be hard pressed to call that a success anyway.

 

[Nirolak]

Sony weighed in on whether they will make another handheld.

I made a separate thread here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=659393

I'm going to guess it will be an Android device with physical buttons.

CVG: With regards to PS Vita, it has struggled to match the kind of sales Sony achieved with PSP. And considering the decline of the handheld market in general, I wonder if you think Vita will be Sony's final handheld? In the long-term, is this a business you feel you can still pursue?

Yoshida: Yeah I think we can still pursue it, and I don't think we have to make that decision now. Also, the distinction between the portables and mobile is [blurring], because there are all kinds of hybrids, different form factors and operating systems can still be conceived, in terms of how we characterise portable and mobile. We still like PS Vita and we know people who buy it really like it.

Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.co...rview-shuhei-yoshida-on-ps4s-indie-explosion/

 

[Fisico]

That seems rather high for Vita.

If this handheld generation lasts until, let's say, 2018, it will need to sell around 5.5,6.5 millions units in 5 years.

Knowing that Vita sold 0.7M units in 2012 and is currently selling around 1.5 better this year (so a bit more than 1M on a yearly basis)
And admitting the console has support, it should reach its peak yearly sales in 2015-2016, so splitting the big number in five

1M (2014) - 1.5 (2015) - 1.6 (2016) - 1.2 (2017) - 0.9 (2018)

On a weekly basis

20k (2014) - 30k (2015) - 32k (2016) - 24k (2017) - 18k (2018)

It doesn't seem completely unreachable and it's not a full blown recovery either, but it's still way too soon to assume something like this will happen with the console and remains a "best case" scenario, not entirely impossible but still not in track to reach that objective

Numbers outta my arse, feel free to ignore them

 

[1st Course]

That seems rather high for Vita.

If it kept selling 15k avg per week it should be able to hit 7m easily in six more years or so.

 

[Alrus]

I think the Vita overall will be a success in Japan but yeah I agree that it's not a threat for the 3DS.

I think by the end of this handheld generation we will be looking at 8-9m LTD for the Vita and 25-26m LTD for the 3DS.

I'd say both numbers are a bit high, but we'll see I guess.

 

[Foshy]

Any first day sell-through data today?

 

[AranhaHunter]

That seems rather high for Vita.

That seems rather high for both, but especially Vita, yes. I think if Vita gets close to that -- even if only in Japan -- it would be the biggest turn around of a videogame console in history. I can't honestly think of another one. I guess the WiiU could count if it turned its fortunes around to such a level as well.