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It can work, but ohhhh boy, they need to work a lot.
They didn't know better and fell for the marketing. Or social bullshit.
It's listed as low as 2300 yen used.
It's not a bad game, but it isn't a good game either. It has huge balance problems.
They didn't know better and fell for the marketing. Or social bullshit.
It's listed as low as 2300 yen used.
It's not a bad game, but it isn't a good game either. It has huge balance problems.
PS4
Knack .....399,376
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes ........150,970
Yakuza: Ishin! ......127,518
FIFA 14 ...100,591
Battlefield 4 ....98,280
Watch Dogs ......90,273
PS3
(most if not all of these are as of 03/19,close enough to six months)
Dynasty Warriors Gundam .......249k
Ridge Racer 7.......134k
Mobile Suit Gundam Target in Sight.......131k
Resistance FoM .......117k
Armoured Core 4.......81k
Virtua Fighter 5.......80k
Knack .....399,376
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes ........150,970
Yakuza: Ishin! ......127,518
FIFA 14 ...100,591
Battlefield 4 ....98,280
Watch Dogs ......90,273
PS3
(most if not all of these are as of 03/19,close enough to six months)
Dynasty Warriors Gundam .......249k
Ridge Racer 7.......134k
Mobile Suit Gundam Target in Sight.......131k
Resistance FoM .......117k
Armoured Core 4.......81k
Virtua Fighter 5.......80k
Famitsu. Downloads included for PS4 only.
[PS4] Knack (SCE) {2014-02-22} - 322,083 / 399,376
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (Konami) {2014-03-20} - 100,278 / 150,970
[PS4] Yakuza: Ishin! (SEGA) {2014-02-22} - 73,086 / 127,518
[PS4] FIFA 14 (Electronic Arts) {2014-02-22} - 9,780 / 100,591
[PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014-02-22} - 26,878 / 98,280
[PS4] Watch Dogs (Ubisoft) {2014-06-26} - 65,630 / 90,273
[PS4] Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn (Square Enix) {2014-04-14} - 34,279 / 62,545
[PS4] inFamous: Second Son (SCE) {2014-05-22} - 39,757 / 62,487
[PS4] Killzone: Shadow Fall (SCE) {2014-02-22} - 25,978 / 48,568
[PS4] Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition (Square Enix) {2014-02-22} - 10,576 / 41,849
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam {2007-03-01} (Bandai Namco) - 171,032 / 248,761
[PS3] Ridge Racer 7 {2006-11-11} (Bandai Namco) - 30,318 / 133,991
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire {2006-11-11} (Bandai Namco) - 30,051 / 131,111
[PS3] Resistance: Fall of Man {2006-11-11} (SCE) - 15,741 / 116,657
[PS3] Armored Core 4 {2006-12-21} (From Software) - 36,446 / 80,813
[PS3] Virtua Fighter 5 {2007-02-08} (SEGA) - 52,432 / 80,257
[PS3] Genji: Days of the Blade {2006-11-11} (SCE) - 9,543 / 53,780
[PS3] MotorStorm {2006-12-14} (SCE) - 12,806 / 53,235
[PS3] Enchanted Arms {2007-01-25} (From Software) - 14,417 / 35,790
[PS3] Need for Speed: Carbon {2006-12-21} (Electronic Arts) - 12,542 / 34,921
[PS2] Ridge Racer V {2000-03-04} (Namco) - 233,391 / 579,598
[PS2] Tekken Tag Tournament {2000-03-30} (Namco) - 214,753 / 429,734
[PS2] Kessen {2000-03-04} (Koei) - 101,844 / 322,342
[PS2] Dead or Alive 2 {2000-03-30} (Tecmo) - 158,506 / 304,973
[PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 7 {2000-07-06} (Konami) - 142,152 / 286,248
[PS2] FIFA Soccer World Championship {2000-05-25} (Square EA) - 101,599 / 234,847
[PS2] Dynasty Warriors 2 {2000-08-03} (Koei) - 117,709 / 213,625
[PS2] Street Fighter EX3 {2000-03-04} (Capcom) - 76,389 / 178,474
[PS2] Armored Core 2 {2000-08-03} (From Software) - 122,190 / 175,935
[PS2] All-Star Pro Wrestling {2000-06-08} (Square) - 88,669 / 154,452
I think we can safely conclude the PS4 is the worst selling PlayStation in Japan ever because it did not launch with Ridge Racer.
Edit: PS1 below, estimated based on sales points, very inconsistent, missing weeks etc. Just look at is as curiosity:
[PS1] Battle Arena Toshinden {1995-01-01} (Takara) - 165,444 / 472,150
[PS1] Ridge Racer {1994-12-03} (Namco) - 164,279 / 463,541
[PS1] Parodius {1994-12-03} (Konami) - 101,802 / 274,593
[PS1] A. IV Evolution {1994-12-03} (Artdink) - 51,914 / 157,467
[PS1] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball '95 {1994-12-22} (Konami) - - / 90,294
[PS1] Crime Crackers {1994-12-03} (SCE) - 29,627 / 41,059
[PS1] Twinbee Taisen Puzzle Dama {1994-12-09} (Konami) - 33,755 / 33,755
[PS1] Cosmic Race {1995-01-20} (Neorex) - 5,541 / 5,541
[PS1] King's Field {1994-12-16} (From Software) - 5,413 / 5,413
[PS1] Motor Toon Grand Prix {1994-12-16} (SCE) - 4,216 / 4,216
[PS4] Knack (SCE) {2014-02-22} - 322,083 / 399,376
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (Konami) {2014-03-20} - 100,278 / 150,970
[PS4] Yakuza: Ishin! (SEGA) {2014-02-22} - 73,086 / 127,518
[PS4] FIFA 14 (Electronic Arts) {2014-02-22} - 9,780 / 100,591
[PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014-02-22} - 26,878 / 98,280
[PS4] Watch Dogs (Ubisoft) {2014-06-26} - 65,630 / 90,273
[PS4] Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn (Square Enix) {2014-04-14} - 34,279 / 62,545
[PS4] inFamous: Second Son (SCE) {2014-05-22} - 39,757 / 62,487
[PS4] Killzone: Shadow Fall (SCE) {2014-02-22} - 25,978 / 48,568
[PS4] Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition (Square Enix) {2014-02-22} - 10,576 / 41,849
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam {2007-03-01} (Bandai Namco) - 171,032 / 248,761
[PS3] Ridge Racer 7 {2006-11-11} (Bandai Namco) - 30,318 / 133,991
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire {2006-11-11} (Bandai Namco) - 30,051 / 131,111
[PS3] Resistance: Fall of Man {2006-11-11} (SCE) - 15,741 / 116,657
[PS3] Armored Core 4 {2006-12-21} (From Software) - 36,446 / 80,813
[PS3] Virtua Fighter 5 {2007-02-08} (SEGA) - 52,432 / 80,257
[PS3] Genji: Days of the Blade {2006-11-11} (SCE) - 9,543 / 53,780
[PS3] MotorStorm {2006-12-14} (SCE) - 12,806 / 53,235
[PS3] Enchanted Arms {2007-01-25} (From Software) - 14,417 / 35,790
[PS3] Need for Speed: Carbon {2006-12-21} (Electronic Arts) - 12,542 / 34,921
[PS2] Ridge Racer V {2000-03-04} (Namco) - 233,391 / 579,598
[PS2] Tekken Tag Tournament {2000-03-30} (Namco) - 214,753 / 429,734
[PS2] Kessen {2000-03-04} (Koei) - 101,844 / 322,342
[PS2] Dead or Alive 2 {2000-03-30} (Tecmo) - 158,506 / 304,973
[PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 7 {2000-07-06} (Konami) - 142,152 / 286,248
[PS2] FIFA Soccer World Championship {2000-05-25} (Square EA) - 101,599 / 234,847
[PS2] Dynasty Warriors 2 {2000-08-03} (Koei) - 117,709 / 213,625
[PS2] Street Fighter EX3 {2000-03-04} (Capcom) - 76,389 / 178,474
[PS2] Armored Core 2 {2000-08-03} (From Software) - 122,190 / 175,935
[PS2] All-Star Pro Wrestling {2000-06-08} (Square) - 88,669 / 154,452
I think we can safely conclude the PS4 is the worst selling PlayStation in Japan ever because it did not launch with Ridge Racer.
Edit: PS1 below, estimated based on sales points, very inconsistent, missing weeks etc. Just look at is as curiosity:
[PS1] Battle Arena Toshinden {1995-01-01} (Takara) - 165,444 / 472,150
[PS1] Ridge Racer {1994-12-03} (Namco) - 164,279 / 463,541
[PS1] Parodius {1994-12-03} (Konami) - 101,802 / 274,593
[PS1] A. IV Evolution {1994-12-03} (Artdink) - 51,914 / 157,467
[PS1] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball '95 {1994-12-22} (Konami) - - / 90,294
[PS1] Crime Crackers {1994-12-03} (SCE) - 29,627 / 41,059
[PS1] Twinbee Taisen Puzzle Dama {1994-12-09} (Konami) - 33,755 / 33,755
[PS1] Cosmic Race {1995-01-20} (Neorex) - 5,541 / 5,541
[PS1] King's Field {1994-12-16} (From Software) - 5,413 / 5,413
[PS1] Motor Toon Grand Prix {1994-12-16} (SCE) - 4,216 / 4,216
SAT : Virtua Fighter 2 ( SEGA ) { 1995-12-01 } - 540,539 / 1,049,968
SDC : Virtua Fighter 3TB ( SEGA ) { 1998-11-27 } - 97,659 / 308,707
PS2 : Virtua Fighter 4 ( SEGA ) { 2002-01-31 } - 356,897 / 541,973
PS3 : Virtua Fighter 5 ( SEGA ) { 2007-02-08 } - 52,432 / 97,321
The staff works on projects like the Hatsune Miku series (starting with 3DS/Vita when they began making them internally) these days for perhaps obvious reasons.
SDC : Virtua Fighter 3TB ( SEGA ) { 1998-11-27 } - 97,659 / 308,707
PS2 : Virtua Fighter 4 ( SEGA ) { 2002-01-31 } - 356,897 / 541,973
PS3 : Virtua Fighter 5 ( SEGA ) { 2007-02-08 } - 52,432 / 97,321
The staff works on projects like the Hatsune Miku series (starting with 3DS/Vita when they began making them internally) these days for perhaps obvious reasons.
Well, it happened to every fighting game in Japan.
Interest in the genre just dropped notably over time as people migrated to other experiences they preferred that didn't necessarily exist at the time fighting games were super popular.
Similarly, Flight Sims used to be the #1 genre in the West and now there's basically zero interest even if you make your game f2p. (Note: By flight sims I mean games that try to simulate flying an airplane, not spaceship combat games.)
Other good examples of this might be NES-style arcade sports games or sidescrolling beat-em-ups which declined in favor of sports simulation titles and action-adventure games.
Edit:
Arena shooters to modern-style multiplayer shooters and RTS games to MOBAs are other good examples of audience shift.
It's not that the old genre stopped existing or that its merits went away, but if you compare the player count on CoD/Battlefield to the player count on Quake/UT or even the modern player count on Quake/UT/other similar games to Quake/UT back in their heyday, there's a massive decline.
Interest in the genre just dropped notably over time as people migrated to other experiences they preferred that didn't necessarily exist at the time fighting games were super popular.
Similarly, Flight Sims used to be the #1 genre in the West and now there's basically zero interest even if you make your game f2p. (Note: By flight sims I mean games that try to simulate flying an airplane, not spaceship combat games.)
Other good examples of this might be NES-style arcade sports games or sidescrolling beat-em-ups which declined in favor of sports simulation titles and action-adventure games.
Edit:
Arena shooters to modern-style multiplayer shooters and RTS games to MOBAs are other good examples of audience shift.
It's not that the old genre stopped existing or that its merits went away, but if you compare the player count on CoD/Battlefield to the player count on Quake/UT or even the modern player count on Quake/UT/other similar games to Quake/UT back in their heyday, there's a massive decline.
About the HW "huge marketing", I think most people are thinking of the numerous Famitsu articles and stuff. And the stream yeah. Unless you actually live in Japan, it's hard to tell how much of an impact this had.
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About the YW2 guide, the YW1 guide was released after the game went out, and it still sold over 1m copies. The fact that it didn't come out Day 1 is probably not a problem... I take it they're bundling a medal or something with it, right?
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With the exception of YW2, yeah, probably.
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About the YW2 guide, the YW1 guide was released after the game went out, and it still sold over 1m copies. The fact that it didn't come out Day 1 is probably not a problem... I take it they're bundling a medal or something with it, right?
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With the exception of YW2, yeah, probably.
Kind of surprised to see how relatively strong Resistance was. I do remember it being one of the more popular games in kiosks in Sofmap etc., and I was one of those sales, but still.
I'm sure you're kidding, but something about the launch felt illegitimate to me for exactly that reason. Namco had always been there with a long lasting game that was a graphics showcase, I really wanted to see what they would do this time around. But after the Vita & F2P games, the series seems to be dead, or at least dormant.
I'm guessing you're including titles like Wing Commander and Tie Fighter in that genre, rather than just Chuck Yaeger/Microsoft Flight Sim, etc?
EDIT: I see you're not, duh. When was this?
I'm sure you're kidding, but something about the launch felt illegitimate to me for exactly that reason. Namco had always been there with a long lasting game that was a graphics showcase, I really wanted to see what they would do this time around. But after the Vita & F2P games, the series seems to be dead, or at least dormant.
I'm guessing you're including titles like Wing Commander and Tie Fighter in that genre, rather than just Chuck Yaeger/Microsoft Flight Sim, etc?
EDIT: I see you're not, duh. When was this?
I'm guessing the early 90's.
Source: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/...with-frank-gibeau/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=5
He actually started at EA like ~25 years ago as a tester for them and has their historic sales data so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The reason I excluded space games is they seem to be making a comeback. Looking at the quote it's plausible the two genres were combined.
Source: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/...with-frank-gibeau/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=5
He actually started at EA like ~25 years ago as a tester for them and has their historic sales data so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The reason I excluded space games is they seem to be making a comeback. Looking at the quote it's plausible the two genres were combined.
In today's edition of "Let's shuffle money around.", Gung-Ho sold its stake in Supercell (Clash of Clans, Hay Day) to its parent company SoftBank, which also already owned a stake in Supercell, but now has a 51% ownership stake directly.
This gave Gung-Ho $344 million in revenue along with a $73 million profit versus their original investment.
They're using this money to do things like set up a new subsidiary in Singapore that will manage a $289 Million fund to invest in Asian (read not-Japanese) developers and emerging markets in the region.
http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/08/2...to-parent-company-softbank-for-us344-million/
http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/08/21/gungho-3765-singapore/
Edit:
Puzzle & Dragons has also hit 30 million downloads in Japan: http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/08/20/puzzle-dragons-30-million-gungho/
They also shared statistics outside of Japan such as:
1 million downloads in Hong Kong and Taiwan (combined)
2 million downloads in South Korea
4 million downloads in the US and Canada (combined)
This gave Gung-Ho $344 million in revenue along with a $73 million profit versus their original investment.
They're using this money to do things like set up a new subsidiary in Singapore that will manage a $289 Million fund to invest in Asian (read not-Japanese) developers and emerging markets in the region.
http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/08/2...to-parent-company-softbank-for-us344-million/
http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/08/21/gungho-3765-singapore/
Edit:
Puzzle & Dragons has also hit 30 million downloads in Japan: http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/08/20/puzzle-dragons-30-million-gungho/
They also shared statistics outside of Japan such as:
1 million downloads in Hong Kong and Taiwan (combined)
2 million downloads in South Korea
4 million downloads in the US and Canada (combined)
gumi is opening four new North American studios (100 employees total) in order to help localize their games along with those of their partners (Sega, GREE, and LINE).
It looks like we will be seeing a lot of major Japanese iOS/Android games going abroad soon. Apparently gumi is working on 30 titles on that front (if I undestood the article correctly, though it's believable with 100 staff on top of what they already have with apparently more planned).
This is notable as Brave Frontier is one of the best performing (or possibly even the best performing) Japanese apps in the West, so they might be able to have quite a bit of success.
I realize this isn't exactly /Japanese/ sales information, but it does tell us more about potential income for Japanese companies.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/21/ga...ith-four-new-studios/?ncid=twittersocialshare
It looks like we will be seeing a lot of major Japanese iOS/Android games going abroad soon. Apparently gumi is working on 30 titles on that front (if I undestood the article correctly, though it's believable with 100 staff on top of what they already have with apparently more planned).
This is notable as Brave Frontier is one of the best performing (or possibly even the best performing) Japanese apps in the West, so they might be able to have quite a bit of success.
I realize this isn't exactly /Japanese/ sales information, but it does tell us more about potential income for Japanese companies.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/21/ga...ith-four-new-studios/?ncid=twittersocialshare
First day sellthrough:
[PS4] The Last of Us Remastered <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥6.372) - 50%
Nice start but the scale is not big. Not moving Hardware.
[PS4] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥8.424) - 40%
[PS3] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥5.184) - 40%
The last entry had stock problems, so this time the shipment was bigger.
The PS3 version is slightly higher, maybe because the big and mysterious price's difference.
[PSV] Bullet Girls <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥6.799) - 80%
The shipment was small and not enough, but it's not a title that sells 50-100k.
[PS4] The Last of Us Remastered <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥6.372) - 50%
Nice start but the scale is not big. Not moving Hardware.
[PS4] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥8.424) - 40%
[PS3] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥5.184) - 40%
The last entry had stock problems, so this time the shipment was bigger.
The PS3 version is slightly higher, maybe because the big and mysterious price's difference.
[PSV] Bullet Girls <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥6.799) - 80%
The shipment was small and not enough, but it's not a title that sells 50-100k.
It's an easier sell than MH, but it's be really hard for YW to become the next Pokemon. The series launched as a multimedia project when people and TV channels still had a lot of interest on anime. For better or worse the situation have changed and anime series are not licensed all that often.
It could clic and become a juggernaut, but I think it won't be as easy.
It could clic and become a juggernaut, but I think it won't be as easy.
I would say so.
The second entry already has a shot to reach the 3m mark. If we think about the biggest 3rd party series ever, has this ever happened before? We know that Monster Hunter exploded well after the second entry (which sold around 500k on PS2); the 2nd portable entry sold 1.7m; Final Fantasy was still relatively small at the time; maybe Dragon Quest? But I guess it did not sell so much; shipment of DQII was around 2.4m.
The second entry already has a shot to reach the 3m mark. If we think about the biggest 3rd party series ever, has this ever happened before? We know that Monster Hunter exploded well after the second entry (which sold around 500k on PS2); the 2nd portable entry sold 1.7m; Final Fantasy was still relatively small at the time; maybe Dragon Quest? But I guess it did not sell so much; shipment of DQII was around 2.4m.