killatopak
Gold Member
So jaguar then?
Come on, that's not true. You could even argue that it's only a small subset of what a "true" VR experience could be without immersive tracked hand controls.
Regardless of that distinction, even if your idea of a "proper" game by necessity includes a story-driven single-player campaign (which would exclude most arcade games ever made from being "proper" games), then I have no idea how something like Arizona Sunshine would not qualify.
'Proper' as in its what people expect from a major title. Pretend I said AAA if that fits better. I love lots of vr games and indie titles. I've played Arizona Sunshine for a couple of hours. It's great.Come on, that's not true. You could even argue that it's only a small subset of what a "true" VR experience could be without immersive tracked hand controls.
Regardless of that distinction, even if your idea of a "proper" game by necessity includes a story-driven single-player campaign (which would exclude most arcade games ever made from being "proper" games), then I have no idea how something like Arizona Sunshine would not qualify.
Well considering they said
- They said they aren't developing their own headset
- Never said it was a Day One delivery
Not surprised they removed the vr promise. Probably since it wasn't a day one item they didn't want to confuse anyone.
Better resolution and wireless are certainly coming and will be a welcome upgrade to the experience. Better tracking though? We already have quite serviceable tracking right now. Sony's low-tech, budget cutting approach shouldn't be the baseline of comparison there. Don't get me wrong, tracking tech will improve as well, but even if it didn't advance at all, we'd be good with the currently available lighthouse solution. More advanced tracking is more important to AR than VR as AR is less likely to be used in a dedicated space.Maybe there still is a future for VR, but coming from someone who has as a Pro and PSVR, Scorpio wouldn't really be missing out on much if it took a pass on this. Current VR is more of a hassle than anything at this point in my experience. I would wait until we have better resolution, better tracking, and wireless headsets before making a real commitment to the technology.
Yet they used it as a bullet point lol
The entire idea of Scorpio and it's reveal/marketing has been a reaction to and against PS4 pro. I guess they can say whatever they want before ever giving concrete details in order to "compete" against Sony.
Maybe a combination of Oculus being a pretty toxic brand at the moment, VR software not exactly setting the world or store shelves on fire, and the very real problem of confusing and/or upsetting base model owners, who'd be left out in the cold.
We'll see. Wouldn't be shocked to see them announce something at E3 or put all their eggs in the AR basket for next gen.
Yet they used it as a bullet point lol
The entire idea of Scorpio and it's reveal/marketing has been a reaction to and against PS4 pro. I guess they can say whatever they want before ever giving concrete details in order to "compete" against Sony.
OK, I can certainly live with that description.RE7 is the kind of game people who dismiss VR think a game should be.
Funny that PSVR was said to be the highest shot of making VR mainstream (myself included) but will be likely that the high cost vive and oculus are the ones that will keep the tech alive.
Has any official word been released regarding it? Seems a bit premature to say they've gone back on it just based on it being removed from the site.
Has any official word been released regarding it? Seems a bit premature to say they've gone back on it just based on it being removed from the site.
OK, I can certainly live with that description.
I still think that letting such people latch on to something without fully tracked controls as "the" VR representative might be a bad decision though.
OK, I can certainly live with that description.
I still think that letting such people latch on to something without fully tracked controls as "the" VR representative might be a bad decision though.
Good. I'd rather microsoft not waste any time on VR.
It's not like it was a long list, it's not there for a reason, whatever that might be.
Scorpio was a reaction to the Pro even though they announced it first? Then what was the PS4 Pro a reaction to?
I hear ya. I'd just imagined they'd say something rather than just take it in the night lol.
regular fidelity VR confirmed?
Or so you'd like to think
Vr is a gimmick, but could be something in the future. Give it +10years.
MS is being clear by silently updating marketing material? Statements would be clearer.Is this not a case of Microsoft trying to be clear about what the Scorpio is going to be for?
The PS4 pro went from being a machine for VR to a machine for everything .
VR on a console is already looking like it is just an enthusiast thing, so why muddy the message ?
I asked Phil Spencer and Aaron Greenberg on Twitter yesterday. No response.Will be interesting to see MS' response to this
Scorpio was a reaction to the Pro even though they announced it first? Then what was the PS4 Pro a reaction to?
You guys should read some of the RE7 PSVR impressions.
Those aren't representative of a 'gimmick' in any way. It's a completely new way to play, and given the right software it blows everything else out of the water.
There are multiple problems with VR which make it a far lesser experience than in the TV version. For starters the graphics quality takes a major dip, as you might expect, even when running on the Pro, and considering how amazing the game looks on the TV, the step down can feel a little too steep. Secondly, because of the slightly fiddly movement mechanics, it can lack the dexterity required in the game's more challenging sequences, making the experience far more frustrating than it need be.
The main issue I encountered while playing Resident Evil 7 in VR was a pretty common one for the technology: It made me extremely dizzy. Moving in the game while standing still in real life was a disorienting process. Beyond that, I found specific visuals in the game much darker and muddier in VR. For example, a photo I picked up and examined looked totally normal in the regular game, but was impossible to make out in the added darkness of the PlayStation VR headset.
But you don't get that same sense in VR, as the visuals are significantly scaled back, to the point that they lose much of their impact. (Note: I played on a standard PS4, so things might be a bit better on the more powerful PS4 Pro.)
Lol 3DOne of my best friends in playing Re7 in VR ( bought them together ) and he is blown away.
I trust the guy because we used to be 3d vision bro's.
Cant wait to borrow it from him.
It's because they were bullshitting about it in the first place. Just like Hololens. Just like cloud power. They want to look like they had something EVEN MORE BETTER than the competition if you would just wait. This is an ancient tactic and ms is quick to reach for it.
It's because they were bullshitting about it in the first place. Just like Hololens. Just like cloud power. They want to look like they had something EVEN MORE BETTER than the competition if you would just wait. This is an ancient tactic and ms is quick to reach for it.
Hololens is AR, and while they certainly exaggerated its capabilities, it still is an impressive piece of tech. Not a replacement for VR by any stretch of the imagination, and of extremely limited use for gaming in its current incarnation, but impressive tech nonetheless.
Unless Scorpio is weaker than normal PS4 otherwise it can run VR normally, so i don't see why it's BS at all.
It's not about they can or can't do it, it's about they want it or not.
And since when Hololens is BS?
Hololens is AR, and while they certainly exaggerated its capabilities, it still is an impressive piece of tech. Not a replacement for VR by any stretch of the imagination, and of extremely limited use for gaming in its current incarnation, but impressive tech nonetheless.
Hololens is great but it was trotted out as some kind of answer to gaming focused vr units that were just around the corner. Then went the extra mile to greatly exaggerate it's capabilities. Smoke and mirrors.
Difficult decision, we believe result is better 4 Xbox gamers
In before 'VR is a fad anyway'
Edit: too late already
Exactly, trus i wouldn't even sweat over VR being scraped..and first of all, don't get it twisted, there is no future in VR. Within 2yrs it will be six feet under and forgotten.