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Metal Gear Solid V PC Performance Thread

Dries said:
Wow, that sucks. I can't imagine having all that horsepower and not being able to DSR...
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Yep, this is what is killing me with this game - my two 780s are barely even jogging running this at 1080p 60fps. If it wasn't locked at 60fps, I'd be perfectly happy running this at very high frame rates - the next thing would have been DSR, but that's obviously not an option either.
 
I'm quite disappointed that you can't get 60fps on a 280X with everything on extra high.

In fact, this is bullshit!
 
jett said:
I'm quite disappointed that you can't get 60fps on a 280X with everything on extra high.

In fact, this is bullshit!
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Parody post right? I want games to have settings that I can't reach, even with the most powerful graphics setups...... If we can max games with a 280X, they aren't pushing visual effects far enough. When Crysis released, no one could max it out, and that's why it's still beautiful and amazing today.
 
Ok, as a summary, what are the things one should turn down to achieve smooth 60 fps playback on a mid-range card? It looks like the model quality hits the fps a lot as well as the shadows, but I'm curious to know what others have been turning down.
 
hoserx said:
Parody post right? I want games to have settings that I can't reach, even with the most powerful graphics setups...... If we can max games with a 280X, they aren't pushing visual effects far enough. When Crysis released, no one could max it out, and that's why it's still beautiful and amazing today.
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But this really ain't Crysis, is it?
 
Corpsepyre said:
Ok, as a summary, what are the things one should turn down to achieve smooth 60 fps playback on a mid-range card? It looks like the model quality hits the fps a lot as well as the shadows, but I'm curious to know what others have been turning down.
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SSAO is a good place to go from there. I'd say it has more of an impact on the framerate than model detail.
 
So you can't combine DSR with borderless fullscreen window.. Is this so in every game or is this just MGS specific?
 
hoserx said:
Parody post right? I want games to have settings that I can't reach, even with the most powerful graphics setups...... If we can max games with a 280X, they aren't pushing visual effects far enough. When Crysis released, no one could max it out, and that's why it's still beautiful and amazing today.
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This isn't Crysis, this is a friggin crossgen game that was already running at 1080p@60fps on the PS4.
 
Dries said:
So you can't combine DSR with borderless fullscreen window.. Is this so in every game or is this just MGS specific?
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This is in every game.

GeDoSaTo can do it for DX9 games :P

jett said:
This isn't Crysis, this is a friggin crossgen game that was already running at 1080p@60fps on the PS4.
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I'm sure your hardware can also easily run it at 60 FPS at PS4 settings.
 
thebloo said:
But this really ain't Crysis, is it?
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It doesn't matter. It's a new game that pushes hardware pretty well. Basically my point was that a 280x isn't a top end card and with that ,you shouldn't expect to max everything out with it.....and if you can, then developers aren't making games that advance the medium enough technologically.
 
What are the odds that this will drop to 50% or more this xmas on Steam?

I want to bite now, but I can wait. It looks good, but I have so many games already.
 
hoserx said:
It doesn't matter. It's a new game that pushes hardware pretty well. Basically my point was that a 280x isn't a top end card and with that ,you shouldn't expect to max everything out with it.....and if you can, then developers aren't making games that advance the medium enough technologically.
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He's saying it doesn't look anything near as good as Crysis 3 and so shouldn't run like shit.
 
Durante said:
This is in every game.

GeDoSaTo can do it for DX9 games :P

I'm sure your hardware can also easily run it at 60 FPS at PS4 settings.
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I'm on a 6850 (with an i72600k and 4 gigs of ram) so I thought I wouldn't be able to able to play this since the gpu is obviously very outdated but I'm actually getting a smooth experience at 1080p with frame-rate locked to 30, shadows and textures set to medium and ssao off (rest is set to high). Better than I expected. I'm upgrading my gpu and increasing ram to 8 closer to the release of TW3.
 
diaspora said:
He's saying it doesn't look anything near as good as Crysis 3 and so shouldn't run like shit.
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And I doubt he was able to max out every single setting in Crysis 3 (a game that's almost 2 years old) and maintain 60 fps in all situations........
 
diaspora said:
He's saying it doesn't look anything near as good as Crysis 3 and so shouldn't run like shit.
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It doesn't run like shit. It's just a bit lower than expected on a 280x. Maybe new drivers will make it better.

But, the 30 fps lock is splendid. It works great and creates absolutely no stuttering on my side. Overall, I'd call it a good "port".
 
Kezen said:
Considering modest Nvidia hardware achieve excellent results this can only be due to AMD's wonky drivers.
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This has always been the knock on ATI/AMD.......I thought this wasn't the case anymore...but it appears to still be so. I can't see why anyone would choose to buy one of their gpus at this point.
 
hoserx said:
This has always been the knock on ATI/AMD.......I thought this wasn't the case anymore...but it appears to still be so. I can't see why anyone would choose to buy one of their gpus at this point.
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Their GPUs are typically better. Not sure why anyone would slam a vendor- nVidia or AMD for post-release drivers on a game that was partnered with one of them.
 
diaspora said:
Their GPUs are typically better. Not sure why anyone would slam a vendor- nVidia or AMD for post-release drivers on a game that was partnered with one of them.
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they are? I've been pc gaming since 1990 and I can't remember any situation other than maybe the 9800 ATI era when their cards were notably "Better".

also, when was the last time that a game partnered with AMD? BF4? and at this point, even with mantle, nvidia cards stack up very well against their amd counterparts.
 
hoserx said:
they are? I've been pc gaming since 1990 and I can't remember any situation other than maybe the 9800 ATI era when their cards were notably "Better".

also, when was the last time that a game partnered with AMD? BF4? and at this point, even with mantle, nvidia cards stack up very well against their amd counterparts.
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Dragon Age I? Ryse? The latter I remember performed quite a bit better at launch. The 7970 when I bought it 18 months ago was the same price as the 760 is now on sale iirc too. There was no beating that price/perf value.
 
hoserx said:
they are? I've been pc gaming since 1990 and I can't remember any situation other than maybe the 9800 ATI era when their cards were notably "Better".

also, when was the last time that a game partnered with AMD? BF4? and at this point, even with mantle, nvidia cards stack up very well against their amd counterparts.
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For years now AMD cards have better performance per buck and their drivers are good. But of course, Nvidia holds 80% of the market and majority of people continue to promote AMD as looser who has bad drivers". Who knows when this will stop.

Games that partnered with AMD are numerous, DE:HR, Sleeping Dogs, Tomb Raider, BF3, BF4, Crysis 3, Alien Isolation and many many others. EA has a great partnership with AMD on all Frostbite games [all games after BF3 have Mantle support] and Star Citizen is also with AMD [including Mantle support].
 
4k runs like butter over here.

There's some pop in issues that are super jarring when using the scope and the day time looks like shiiiiiiiiiit. Sensitivity is all out of whack too, I'm having to drop the dpi on my mouse all the way down when using first person or the binocs.

nVidia peeps should grab the beta driver that went live two days ago.
 
diaspora said:
Their GPUs are typically better. Not sure why anyone would slam a vendor- nVidia or AMD for post-release drivers on a game that was partnered with one of them.
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Day 1 performance has been consistently more consistent (yep) on Nvidia for a decade, and it looks like even cross-development with the new consoles doesn't change that.

There are some games where AMD performs relatively better, but the lows NV hardware drops to are never as low as the other way around. This is well-established.
 
jett said:
I'm quite disappointed that you can't get 60fps on a 280X with everything on extra high.

In fact, this is bullshit!
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I don't get that on a GTX 770. I get close, but not quite. Usually it's about 55-60 when I'm overlooking a large area. If I lower one settings like screen quality or whatever it's called or SSAO, it goes to a completely solid 60 FPS that's practically immovable.

What I'm happy with about this game is how solid the framerate is. It's very consistent.
 
DieH@rd said:
For years now AMD cards have better performance per buck and their drivers are good. But of course, Nvidia holds 80% of the market and majority of people continue to promote AMD as looser who has bad drivers". Who knows when this will stop.

Games that partnered with AMD are numerous, DE:HR, Sleeping Dogs, Tomb Raider, BF3, BF4, Crysis 3, Alien Isolation and many many others. EA has a great partnership with AMD on all Frostbite games [all games after BF3 have Mantle support] and Star Citizen is also with AMD [including Mantle support].
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Let's not pretend that mantle actually creates any sort of advantage......it's more of something to lessen the gap between their drivers and Nvidia's.
 
DieH@rd said:
For years now AMD cards have better performance per buck and their drivers are good. But of course, Nvidia holds 80% of the market and majority of people continue to promote AMD as looser who has bad drivers". Who knows when this will stop.
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When AMD has good drivers.
 
diaspora said:
Mantle gives owners of CPU-bottlenecked machines a good advantage.
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You mean people with AMD cpus? =)



Sorry, too easy. I buy whatever hardware is the best for the money I have budgeted at the time.......it just hasn't been AMD since I had a k6-2.

I hope new drivers improve performance for everyone!
 
the second best decision i have ever made in regards to computer gaming was switching to team green

amd was nothing but headaches and issues for me
 
diaspora said:
Mantle gives owners of CPU-bottlenecked machines a good advantage.
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diaspora said:
And i3s. I haven't noticed a huge difference in Star Swarm which makes sense owning a 4670k.
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It offers increased CPU performance for users of AMD cards over DirectX. NVIDIA manage to get more CPU performance out of DirectX than AMD do.

Mantle is partly there because AMD's DirectX drivers aren't as good as NVIDIA's.
 
hoserx said:
If it isn't, why are people in this thread complaining about low performance on a game in relation to other cards in similar price / raw performance points?
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Durante said:
That's a bit of a silly thing to say in a thread about a game which exemplifies the very thing you are claiming does not exist.
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Because people are making out this is an issue with every single game, when it's not. Nvidia has better support generally day 0, but this sort of performance gap is not the hard and fast case across the board.

To class them as wonky is unfair. They're not as feature rich, nor do they always performance as well as Nvidia, but they're far from bad. It's a far cry from the old monthly ATI releases.
 
kharma45 said:
Because people are making out this is an issue with every single game, when it's not. Nvidia has better support generally day 0, but this sort of performance gap is not the hard and fast case across the board.

To class them as wonky is unfair. They're not as feature rich, nor do they always performance as well as Nvidia, but they're far from bad. It's a far cry from the old monthly ATI releases.
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doesn't that make the point further?
 
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