Safe to assume.Its not what?
Safe to assume.Its not what?
I wonder if Minecraft Switch is counted in the gaming revenue since Microsoft does own the IP. Obviously, not all the money from a sale goes to the IP owner, but MS still gets some of it, I'd imagine.Multiplatform games release on multiple platforms.
I find this a kinda strange argument to make now when we just had a first half of the year that could serve as a case study in the positive effects a strong exclusive lineup can have on the health of a platform.
Minecraft is developed and published by MS, they aren't just the IP holder. All Minecraft revenue (outside platform cuts) is counted in this.I wonder if Minecraft Switch is counted in the gaming revenue since Microsoft does own the IP. Obviously, not all the money from a sale goes to the IP owner, but MS still gets some of it.
X1S momentum fizzled out pretty fast. The software side is helping keep things somewhat positive but they need to address the hardware problem.
Safe to assume.
X1S momentum fizzled out pretty fast. The software side is helping keep things somewhat positive but they need to address the hardware problem.
Scorpio.
It really isn't.It's safe to assume that they are currently investing more in software.
Problem is that we won't see that closer to release and even then it's a 2-3 year bet.
What? LolI don't think the Switch is a serious threat, but is anyone really going wild for timed exclusivity deals like PUBG?
Higher software sales is a plus but, well, you'd certainly hope so considering that there have been literally millions more consoles sold in the meantime. Dwindling Xbox Live users should be quite concerning, shouldn't it? Unless I'm misunderstanding.
Still surprising to see them continue this generation when even the S failed to have a positive impact. What's their goal? At this pace they will end this generation with less than 40 million consoles while Sony will approach 100 million. The US was their one constant but even there they fail miserably now. Even selling less than a supply constrained Switch.
And their 1st party strategy has been bad for years. Have they still not understood that it's best to release your own games from February to August and leave the rest of the year for the heavy hitting multiplatforms?
I can't really believe a company like Microsoft wouldn't be investing money in software when all this year they've been getting bashed for lack of first party software. I mean come on.
I'm not sure what you're doing here.Its not It's safe to assume that they are currently investing more in software?
Interested in this too.
Me too. I mean they do have ways of making money with a low install base tho.
I wouldnt be shocked if they did try to come out with their next gen console sooner.
I'm not sure what you're doing here.
That is why MAU basically give us any ideia of the situation.
First you look at this pretty low 3% increase in revenue over last year when XB1 possible had a 20% (~5m?) userbase increase over last year.
So XB1's userbase are not buying more games? Or spending money with services and Live? That could be affected by the weak software output this year?
At least units sold could show a feeling of increase in userbase while revenue and MAU just shows the situation is getting worst and worst every quarter.
Um you guys are not really reading that correctly. It's not dwindling "Xbox Live Users", it's dwindling MAU. I don't think that's that weird considering we're in summer and more people go out for summer vacation and whatnot.
Third party is undoubtedly crucial but I think the first half of this year, in particular, shows that great first party/exclusive content can work wonders for a platform as well.Hence why I said that third party software matters more.
People seem to be too focused on first party software.
Things look pretty positive! Hardware decline doesn't seem too surprising given Xbox One X being a known quantity and all the bundles/discounts they've offered on the One S. I'll be curious to see if they can reach the point where hardware breaks even or goes into the positive.
Also still really curious to see what their actual long-term plan is for Xbox hardware. The One X will definitely help shape their decision to either continue iterative hardware or return to the traditional generational approach.
They've been criticized for years and haven't done much why would this year be much different.I can't really believe a company like Microsoft wouldn't be investing money in software when all this year they've been getting bashed for lack of first party software. I mean come on.
Yes, it will sell to existing hardcore fanbase for three or 4 months just like the xb1s and then they will be back to where they are right now. People are putting too much faith in a $500 hardware that is not a new generation to boot.
I get what you are saying, thats why its good to have both.
Yea Monthly Active Users.
Some of us are just wondering why that is. MAU could fluctuate based on anything.
With younger folks on summer break should it be going down?
Oh, I see now. Some may be confusing MAU with overall users period. I admit I didnt catch that when I quoted that post, lol.
They've been criticized for years and haven't done much why would this year be much different.
Still. They'll monetize their super hard-core fanbase and not lose money with every unit sold.
What I find more interesting here is how badly the X1S does. It's reaching super cheap territory in Germany for instance and it's still not selling. Not long and we'll be at 149 Euros with a couple of games.
We have heard for years now that Microsoft is doing more for 1st party games, and while they do come out with a few that aren't the usual games it simply isn't enough to justify this prophecy that Xbox fans seem to believe "Microsoft will fund a whole load of exclusives and compete with Sony. You wait and see!" never arrives.
DId you miss E3 where they announced a ton of timed exclusive indie games as well as bigger indie games like PUBG and black desert etc. Nintendo isn't going to eat into that indie share of games from the Xbox.
Last Christmas is seemed like the better buy for me vs the PS4.
Kind of shocked by its sales too. A few months ago, year or 2 ago, it was 3rd parties sell consoles, now it seems the complete opposite.
Third party is undoubtedly crucial but I think the first half of this year, in particular, shows that great first party/exclusive content can work wonders for a platform as well.
Basically, a platform should strive to have the best of both worlds.
It's not.
They've been criticized for years and haven't done much why would this year be much different.
I'm not sure what you're doing here.
Have you been born after E3 2017?why is it not safe to assume? According to the report they made more with software, why shouldnt they invest more in software?
Also, Phil Spencer just said that they signed a couple of exclusives: http://xboxtavern.com/phil-spencer-just-signed-exclusives/
so, yeah. it is indeed safe to assume, if you want to believe what Phil says, but I don't think he is lying and I think he knows more than any of us.
X1S momentum fizzled out pretty fast. The software side is helping keep things somewhat positive but they need to address the hardware problem.
What? Lol
I actually don't see where it says they're making more investments in first party. As in more than they currently are.why is it not safe to assume? According to the report they made more with software, why shouldnt they invest more in software?
Also, Phil Spencer just said that they signed a couple of exclusives: http://xboxtavern.com/phil-spencer-j...ed-exclusives/
so, yeah. it is indeed safe to assume, if you want to believe what Phil says, but I don't think he is lying and I think he knows more than any of us.
It has absolutely nothing to do with if Spencer is "lying" or not. All of MS's announced games are supposed to be out within a year. Of course they will have other games to replace those in their lineup. That in no way means their investment or attention on first party software is increasing.why is it not safe to assume? According to the report they made more with software, why shouldnt they invest more in software?
Also, Phil Spencer just said that they signed a couple of exclusives: http://xboxtavern.com/phil-spencer-just-signed-exclusives/
so, yeah. it is indeed safe to assume, if you want to believe what Phil says, but I don't think he is lying and I think he knows more than any of us.
I can't really believe a company like Microsoft wouldn't be investing money in software when all this year they've been getting bashed for lack of first party software. I mean come on.
I feel the opposite about this information. It looks fairly bleak compared to other companies and a $500 box isn't going to change much come this holiday.
I'm saying no one has any reason to assume their investments in first party are going up.I'm just trying to establish if you are stating as fact that MS are no longer investing the same levels or more in software or if this is just your opinion? That's all I'm doing here, trying to understand your post in more detail.
It's going to be "exclusive" for however long it's in early access I imagine. I wouldn't be surprised if that's over 9 monthsPUBG also isn't going to be Xbox exclusive for long.
I'm not talking about just releasing hardware. They did that with X1S and here we are now. I'm talking about doing something to sustain momentum.
I'm saying no one has any reason to assume their investments in first party are going up.
Sustain negative momentum?I'm not talking about just releasing hardware. They did that with X1S and here we are now. I'm talking about doing something to sustain momentum.
This is being too generous. OK, I'll make my position more clear:To be fair, without knowing what the yearly budget actually is its hard to ascertain if its going to go up, down or stay at the same level of investment.
It seems to me a good time to quote a Scottish legend, Kenny Dalglish:
Is the Xbox budget going up or down?
"Mibbes aye, mibbes naw."
It has absolutely nothing to do with if Spencer is "lying" or not. All of MS's announced games are supposed to be out within a year. Of course they will have other games to replace those in their lineup. That in no way means their investment or attention on first party software is increasing.
This is being too generous. OK, I'll make my position more clear:
MS is not meaningfully increasing their investments in or focus on first party. That could change, I would love for that to change, but it hasn't.
I'm saying no one has any reason to assume their investments in first party are going up.