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RIP Sony. They had a good run.
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RIP Sony. They had a good run.
The PlayStation fans are 'just; a little hypocritical on this matter. I can remember none of this talk with the original PS, when SEGA had far more In-House studios more exclusives and most of the best PS game were all on the PC and run and looked better.
Then the PC didn't come into it, never mind Tomb Raider 1,3 looked and run better on the PC it was all about the PS having the best console versions of the 'said' game, it was the Saturn didn't have it or it looked worse on the system. Well, really that's what MS needs to with the One X. Have the best looking and sounding versions of the 3rd party games, that's their best bet and hope the One X becomes the lead platform for development as a result.
The PlayStation fans are 'just; a little hypocritical on this matter. I can remember none of this talk with the original PS, when SEGA had far more In-House studios more exclusives and most of the best PS game were all on the PC and run and looked better.
Then the PC didn't come into it, never mind Tomb Raider 1,3 looked and run better on the PC it was all about the PS having the best console versions of the 'said' game, it was the Saturn didn't have it or it looked worse on the system. Well, really that's what MS needs to with the One X. Have the best looking and sounding versions of the 3rd party games, that's their best bet and hope the One X becomes the lead platform for development as a result.
Anyone that thinks differently is fooling themselves. I am getting the X because Gamestop is paying for it. It will be the most powerful console out there until it isn't. MS isn't trying to win the gen with it. They are just trying to have the strongest console out to finish the gen regardless of lack of exclusives. I don't think there is much more to it than that.
However, that shouldn't stop anyone who's interested in the X from buying it and falling in love with it.
You ran back to anecdotal 90's discussions to make a point about a forum thread in 2017? That's about as far a reach as I've seen in a long time. Point: Microsoft needs more exclusive software, regardless of what was going on with the PS1.
I agree, their exclusive lineup is straight trash. Like you, I've been busy with my Switch and PS4. Hopefully this changes. They have released jack shit, pertaining to exclusives this year. Very disappointing.
It's not just about the 90's. In the 90's SEGA had the In-House advantage that counted for little against the PS. The OG XBox didn't have many Japanese titles, even the 360 would always play 2nd fiddle to the PS and what SONY In-House teams could output or the support SONY could count on from Japanese publishers.
It's like people forget the XBox didn't have Tekken on it or Resident Evil, or Ace Combat, most of the so called ONLY ON XBox titles on the 360 ended up on the PS3 or that the 360 could never boast of any Yakuza or Persona title on it.
It's not much new, yes MS needs to do more, but at least it getting the Hardware part right and one can only hope, the software follows and that MS works again with SEGA and Fromsoftware
- "most of the so called ONLY ON XBox titles on the 360 ended up on the PS3"
I can't be bothered checking, but I think this is untrue.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. What has this got to do with PS1 fans being hypocrites because "most of the best PS game were all on the PC and run and looked better"?
- "The OG XBox didn't have many Japanese titles"
I mean, define "many". Sega published tons of OG Xbox games (most of which were exclusive, as I recall)
I can't be bothered checking, but I think this is untrue.
It's not just about the 90's. In the 90's SEGA had the In-House advantage that counted for little against the PS. The OG XBox didn't have many Japanese titles, even the 360 would always play 2nd fiddle to the PS and what SONY In-House teams could output or the support SONY could count on from Japanese publishers.
It's like people forget the XBox didn't have Tekken on it or Resident Evil, or Ace Combat, most of the so called ONLY ON XBox titles on the 360 ended up on the PS3 or that the 360 could never boast of any Yakuza or Persona title on it.
It's not much new, yes MS needs to do more, but at least it getting the Hardware part right and one can only hope, the software follows and that MS works again with SEGA and Fromsoftware
Was 1996 the real Sony or fake good guy Sony?
You're totally missing the point of topic - that Microsoft needs to do something (this is how brands stay afloat, after all). What happened 10/15/20+ years ago is irrelevant.
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
... That's because people were saying Sony would be shutting down. It's actually a miracle they were able to turn it around. Also last gen Xbox wasn't lacking in exclusives till like the last 2 years. They were still able to get 3rd party exclusives from Western and Japanese developers. They dried up this gen leaving only first party left.Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Which Universe did you teleport from? Tell me, did Trump win in that one too?Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Blatantly false lol.Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
What he said is true, but it's not our fault he doesn't look hard enough.Blatantly false lol.
Which Universe did you teleport from? Tell me, did Trump win in that one too?
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Was 1996 the real Sony or fake good guy Sony?
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
They release more controllers than they do games. They don't even have anything that looks good to me coming out for the remainder of the year.
Blatantly false lol.
Which Universe did you teleport from? Tell me, did Trump win in that one too?
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Every 3rd party will play best on X, 3rd party are the best sellers. Its like the ps4 launch.
No Fake news ... Let's see in 2011 SONY lost $3.1b, in 2012 SONY lost $6.4 billion, in 2013 Sony lost $0.5 billon, in 2014 SONY lost $1.29 Billion. So in 5 years, SONY lost over $10 billion dollars and noone here, was saying it was the end of SONY or the PS3 and they would pull out.
MS, on the other hand, is done for despite posting profits, even in the XBox division.
And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Lol what? Did I miss a newfound meme in this thread or something?
YES THEY WERE. WHERE WERE YOU. Also PlayStation was the one of the only Profitable sections they had. It would of been spun out or went down with Sony.No Fake news ... Let's see in 2011 SONY lost $3.1b, in 2012 SONY lost $6.4 billion, in 2013 Sony lost $0.5 billon, in 2014 SONY lost $1.29 Billion. So in 5 years, SONY lost over $10 billion dollars and noone here, was saying it was the end of SONY or the PS3 and they would pull out.
MS, on the other hand, is done for despite posting profits, even in the XBox division.
No Fake news ... Let's see in 2011 SONY lost $3.1b, in 2012 SONY lost $6.4 billion, in 2013 Sony lost $0.5 billon, in 2014 SONY lost $1.29 Billion. So in 5 years, SONY lost over $10 billion dollars and noone here, was saying it was the end of SONY or the PS3 and they would pull out.
MS, on the other hand, is done for despite posting profits, even in the XBox division.
Absolutely need more Gears titles. Where's my remakes of 2/3/judgment??
I agree, but the XBox One X is MS taking issues to fix area's it knows it messed up on and this isn't MS going to AMD asking for simply slightly faster chips and a few more cores (like PS Pro). Its MS helping to develop a hugely powerful CPU and also help developers with the best tools and system layout MS can offer, even the cooling system of the One X shows how much effort and how serious MS is to get its GPU crown back.
MS is doing a hell of a lot of good moves and with its BC program for not just the 360 but now also the OG XBox it bolds well for anyone buying a game or product on the One or One X going forward, as does the focus on making a hugely powerful GPU.
It can only bold well, not just for the One X, but the X Box II.
Get real, MS earns more in 6 months than most countries total GDP. MS isn't going anywhere soon and it wouldn't be wasted 3 years or spending millions on R&D for the XBox One X. It's not even 20 years ago, but last gen it had all much 360 had much the same issues of lacking In-House teams, lack of exclusives compared to SONY. And speaking of last gen, when SONY was losing billions upon billions (not to mention market share) I saw no-one here saying SONY are pulling out or going to quit.
Microsoft as a company has nothing to do with the health of the XBOX division. People who bring that up are generally doing so with an agenda.Instead of senseless comments, please offer debate or insight. One sentence replies are shameful. He is right. Microsoft as a company is more healthier than Sony, especially before and during the 360 years. Sony was bleeding money from heavy losses on tvs, cameras, etc. They were doing so bad they hired an outside CEO for the first time to make cuts.
Instead of senseless comments, please offer debate or insight. One sentence replies are shameful. He is right. Microsoft as a company is more healthier than Sony, especially before and during the 360 years. Sony was bleeding money from heavy losses on tvs, cameras, etc. They were doing so bad they hired an outside CEO for the first time to make cuts.
Instead of senseless comments, please offer debate or insight. One sentence replies are shameful. He is right. Microsoft as a company is more healthier than Sony, especially before and during the 360 years. Sony was bleeding money from heavy losses on tvs, cameras, etc. They were doing so bad they hired an outside CEO for the first time to make cuts.
Gears 2 should indeed get a remaster.
Gears 3 and J are good-looking enough imho (in fact I couldn't believe they were 360 games when I played them), they should invest the effort of remastering them somewhere else instead.
While you may very well be right, let's not pretend that the upgrade from the ps4 to the ps4 pro is even close to the upgrade from the xbox one to the xbox one x lol. There are a lot of xbox owners who are pretty excited to play xbox games that will be much improved. Phil Spencer also said the one x isn't supposed to be a big system seller. Its a niche console for enthusiasts wanting a more powerful system. I think 10% would be an okay number, but I'd hope for 20-30%. I don't know if the 4k blu ray player will be the same from the one s, hopefully not, but an improved 4k blu ray player could easily justify the 100 dollars more when you consider most current players are 200+ dollars alone. The nicer ones are 400-500 dollars. So it's not unreasonable to think that that could also entice someone to go for the more expensive console. From what I've read, the one s 4k blu ray player is just okay, but not great. So hopefully they improve it with the one x.I doubt the X will account for more than 10% of future XB1 sales. $499 plus tax is no small chunk of change. If the Pro version of the far more popular PS4 accounts for 20% of sales at $400, a less popular console selling for $100 more with an objectively smaller lineup of exclusives is a tougher proposition. You'll have a small surge at the beginning led by a group of enthusiasts, then sales will fall off greatly. The majority of people with any interest in an XB1 will flock to a $200 S model this holiday season.
No Fake news ... Let's see in 2011 SONY lost $3.1b, in 2012 SONY lost $6.4 billion, in 2013 Sony lost $0.5 billon, in 2014 SONY lost $1.29 Billion. So in 5 years, SONY lost over $10 billion dollars and noone here, was saying it was the end of SONY or the PS3 and they would pull out.
MS, on the other hand, is done for despite posting profits, even in the XBox division.