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Monolith Soft's Wii U game "X" coming 2014 [E3 Trailer]
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sorry, but that's wrong:
Oh they do? Weird. Regardless, they fade out the farther you're away (I think?) and are differentiated from the character icon and quest icon. At the very least the differentiation can be expected to be in effect in X as well since that's just basic UI design logic.
TalesOfWin
Banned
important NPCs with quests shows up on the radar
sorry, but that's wrong:
Those are for named NPCs, are they not? In any case, I was half wrong there.
Those are for named NPCs, are they not? In any case, I was half wrong there.
they are, but why would you look for unnamed npcs? they are basically decoration.
Karsticles
Member
Xenoblade had no unnamed NPCs.
I'm standing in front of two iterations of "Colony 9 Resident" right now. A human and a Nopon. (And they're not tracked on the minimap, just for the record).
I wouldn't. I'm just saying that not all NPCs are shown on the radar. And using Xenoblade as a model, this one
isn't one of those named NPCs.
EDIT:
In fact, judging by this shot, named NPCs in X might be yellow:
LiveFromKyoto
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Yeah, that's true. I guess I'll keep the faith.
You don't need faith. Games that aren't coming to the West don't show up in their western directs (poor DQX), end of story.
MushroomSamba
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Looks very pretty, but also looks like a lot of just running around. Would've been nice to see how the combat works.
You clearly missed the January reveal.
Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GxUMMGyZcM
It's like Xenoblade.
KillerTravis
Banned
I hope the british voice acting returns for this game.
I will buy a Wii U just for this game.
By the way, NoA encoded the Youtube teaser at 25fps for some reason; NCL's is 30. Might want to switch over if you're watching NoA's.
poweredbykimchi
Neo Member
I wouldn't. I'm just saying that not all NPCs are shown on the radar. And using Xenoblade as a model, this one
isn't one of those named NPCs.
I thought that guy far ahead was the protagonist. That mech is another one of his.
But that'd be strange, wouldn't it? He's not appearing on the radar...
This might be an instance that proves it's singleplayer with optional co-op.
A.I. controlled or idle party characters? No symbol on minimap.
Player controller party characters? Symbol on minimap.
I think it's a given that we'll be switching between characters like in Xenoblade so it doesn't matter in terms of gameplay who the narrative protagonist is.
SlipperySlope
Banned
Bar none. This is the best game shown at E3.
poweredbykimchi
Neo Member
Yeah. I see your point in him being an NPC, but with that sword and that mech, he looks like the protagonist.
I'm guessing either they're not done with labeling who's a "real" npc or walking near him would trigger a cutscene.
I don't remember how Xenoblade handled it when your characters became "NPC"s for a moment.
You guys might be right, actually:
Pigtails and formerly silver hair aren't appearing on the radar, either (note: they weren't idle; they were following after you). But... it's still strange:
On the top left, shouldn't there be player status boxes if these were indeed player-controlled characters
like we see here?
I are confuzzled.
Some ideas:
The countdown is a possible countdown of a protection field, that has so far kept out the dangerous creatures shown. The city looks rather safe, after all.
The large purple creatures look like Gnosis from Xenosaga, imo.
The hanger gave me the Xenogears feels so hard.
The gears/dolls/mechs so far look way more Xenogears-esque rather than Xenoblade-esque.
Can I please have id and Grahf please?
The countdown is a possible countdown of a protection field, that has so far kept out the dangerous creatures shown. The city looks rather safe, after all.
The large purple creatures look like Gnosis from Xenosaga, imo.
The hanger gave me the Xenogears feels so hard.
The gears/dolls/mechs so far look way more Xenogears-esque rather than Xenoblade-esque.
Can I please have id and Grahf please?
On the top left, shouldn't there be player status boxes if these were indeed player-controlled characters
like we see here?
I are confuzzled.
First one is free-roaming. Jolly good time.
Second one is combat.
Problem solved
(like in Xenoblade)
edit:
what's more interesting about that last shot of yours is that it introduces problems for my 5-player theory. We see the 4 player UI but we also see four green player icons in addition to the central main character icon. So there "should" be five player characters active but the UI only notes four.
Either that means there is no correlation between the green dots and the actual players or this means there might be additional A.I. support characters that get included in the party. It's all a bit wishy washy. Man I can't wait to finally learn more about this game! October Direct, do not disappoint! lol
First one is free-roaming. Jolly good time.
Second one is combat.
Problem solved
(like in Xenoblade)
Soooo (and forgive if I'm being dense here), what you're saying is that when out exploring, AI party members don't appear on the radar, but when they're engaged in battle, that's when they appear as green dots?
That makes sense, yeah.
I only meant your last two pics, which (going by my theory) both have multiple human controlled characters in them while your first pic at the cliff is a singleplayer snapshot with AI companions.
Green dots only seem to appear when there are multiple player characters as in your first pic, there are zero green dots and only the grey/blue-ish center dot denoting the main player character YOU are playing.
In the second and third pic, we likely are seeing a multiplayer scenario with the first being just a group of people running around and the second one being a combat scenario that has the additional party UI, like during Xenoblade's combat (and there's no action bar since mech combat functions differently, going by the first trailer).
edit: excuse my horrible sentence structure and possible grammar souflet. it's very late and I should be sleeping lol
That might make sense. When exploring, party members just follow you around (basically you control them), when in battle (and these battles seem to ranging in scope) they operate individually.
Ooooooooooooooh, well... I derped something awful up there.
But thanks, I get it now.
EDIT:
But wait... There are two problems in this shot, then:
1. There doesn't appear to be any blue dots (which represent you, yeah?); all five dots are green here.
2. Which brings us to the other problem you pointed out: if green dots are human players, then why are there only four player status boxes? That'd either mean one box was left out for who knows what reason or that, if your AI being able to join a human party theory is true, it'd be represented by a green dot, too, no?
Man, this is wishy-washy.
What if the 5th player and 5th status box is on the Wii U Gamepad? If that makes any sense.
Edit: I'm just brain-storming (-farting)
shinobi602
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So I never played Xenoblade. This being the spiritual successor, will it actually have a story to follow? With cutscenes and the traditional single player elements? Or is it just similar to Monster Hunter?
Nothing like Monster Hunter. At all. It just appears to have optional online co-op. If anything it'll probably one of the most story heavy RPGs to come out in years.
Story is the one thing you don't need to worry about with this team.
Good catch on that... the extra 5 FPS definitely makes the running animations, etc look noticeably better
SporeCrawler
Member
Well we dont know anything abou x. Regarding xenoblade. It is a traditional jrpg in regards to storytelling with untraditionally big scale. Nothing like monster hunter. X might be more like monhun though.
Something else worth bringing up from the first teaser:
If green dots are human players, they both seem to be missing status boxes here, too...
Sorry, missed ya' there. But this also seems like it could be a valid explanation.
If green dots are human players, they both seem to be missing status boxes here, too...
Sorry, missed ya' there. But this also seems like it could be a valid explanation.
shinobi602
Member
Nothing like Monster Hunter. At all. It just appears to have optional online co-op. If anything it'll probably one of the most story heavy RPGs to come out in years.
Story is the one thing you don't need to worry about with this team.
Awesome. Can't wait to see more.
Yeah, don't we all. According to the director, Xenoblade was essentially a side-project of sorts for the team and not intended to be their magnum opus. This bodes very well for the game.
I still wonder what gives people the impression that this would be anything like monster hunter?
I guess most people haven't either played monster hunter or watched the trailer.
could someone edit the topic to "not like monster hunter, at all" or something similar?
The initial trailer is a bit confusing, as most people don't realize that these are teasers, and not full trailers. Plus there's the whole "It's got co-op and big monsters and it's Japanese, it must be like Monster Hunter!!!" belief going around, not helped by the fact that lots of Japanese developers are making Monster Hunter clones...
shinobi602
Member
I still wonder what gives people the impression that this would be anything like monster hunter?
I guess most people haven't either played monster hunter or watched the trailer.
could someone edit the topic to "not like monster hunter, at all" or something similar?
I've never played Monster Hunter, just watched a few videos over the years. Just seeing the player running through big open fields and fighting monsters gave me a similar vibe is all lol.
This looks really good. I'm wondering if it's open world or how they're going to design the different areas in the game.
Xenoblade was story heavy. The only thing it has in common with Monster Hunter is you occasionally fight big monsters on the field. That's about it.
I still wonder what gives people the impression that this would be anything like monster hunter?
I guess most people haven't either played monster hunter or watched the trailer.
could someone edit the topic to "not like monster hunter, at all" or something similar?
Presumably they haven't played Xenoblade, or Monster Hunter, or both.
The best way to think about Xenoblade is as a single player MMO. Monster Hunter is basically an action game based around crafting.
SoraanTribal
Member
must've been some nifty edited mh videos than, because the "open fields" in MH are non-existent and pretty tiny
hardly larger than some of the monsters themselves.
Iwata said something about a seamless world. With that in mind and from what we saw, it's probably going to be one huge chunk of land, whereas xenoblade consisted of ~23 very large maps connected through loading zones.
edit:
MH is more like an arena brawler. Every Area consists of a dozen arenas between which you keep moving constantly.
I don't even think that's an apt comparison. Most MMOs have significantly more action buttons (and significantly less movement) than Xenoblade does.
The best comparison is Guild Wars / Guild Wars 2. With Mecha. >_>;
poweredbykimchi
Neo Member
Has anyone noticed the yellow circle thing when you target on to enemies? I think the circle gauge gets filled up more, but I can't figure out what it is.
credit to onilink88
Health for specific body parts is my guess.
At the bottom? Those are timers for when you can use each attack/ability.
Hold on there, lets not get crazy now.
Xenoblade has some large monsters yes but Monster Hunter wins easily when it comes to Monster Size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaFzKLinHnM
EDIT: 3rd character in the bottom left is your human character vs every Monster in Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate
Hey, at least you're not doing any worse than I am; I've been totally off my game tonight.
Haha, didn't need to credit me for that.
And yup.
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