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This is awesome.
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First thing I thought of when I saw the trailer.Might be wrong, but X look a lot like Shishigami.
You and the entire population of Japan, since Princess Mononoke was equivalent to the movie Titanic over there.First thing I thought of when I saw the trailer.
Sure, and XY will probably also be a hodgepodge: The world looks based on Western Europe, for example, with an Eiffel tower and Gothic cathedrals, and yet the cover mascots are clearly derived from Norse mythology. I like it when they mix elements together -- it's fresh.Good observations, but I'm not sure if the game will have a Norse mythology theme. Black and White had a random hodgepodge of ideas. The area was based on New York/America, but there were Egyptian-esque tombs, yin yang dragons, and Japanese gods as legendaries.
I know, but those animals just have dragon in their name. That doesn't make them look like dragons
I wonder what types they might be, or if we can make an educated guess based on the myths? Dragon/Fighting for Yveltal, since he will square off against the serpent? That would be another first for the series. And perhaps Dragon/Rock -- also a first -- for Xerneas, in keeping with his gemstone antlers?
So in summary:
Yveltal -- Fighting/Dragon
Xerneas -- Rock/Dragon
Z Legendary -- Poison/Dragon
Well?
A refresher on the mythological basis for some of the other legendaries:
Articuno: Based on Simurgh, a mythical flying creature in Persian folklore, with elements of the quetzal.
Zapdos: Either the Native American legend of the thunderbird, or the Impundulu, a bird of witchcraft who could summon thunder and lightning in South African folklore.
Moltres: Either the Arabian phoenix, the Slavic firebird, or the Japanese Suzaku.
Raikou: One of the thunder demons in Japanese mythology, collectively called raiju.
Entei: Chinese guardian lions, or Lions of Foo; alternatively, possibly Aterui, the chief of the Emishi, a.k.a. the demon called 'Aka-gashira' (Red-Head).
Suicune: Qilin or "Kirin", an Eastern legend that has traits of Chinese dragons, unicorns, deer, big cats, and other beasts. Maybe Anitong Tabo, goddess of wind and rains in Philippine mythology.
Lugia: Possibly Ryūjin, a dragon who lived on the ocean floor and was the Shinto god of the sea.
Ho-oh: Possibly the Huma bird, from the Persian branch of Iranian mythology, or another take on the phoenix, or (I'd say most likely) Achiyalabopa, a rainbow-colored bird god of the Pueblo people (Southwestern Native Americans).
Regirock, Regice and Registeel: The golems of Hebrew legend.
Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza: The Behemoth, Leviathan and Ziz of Jewish mythology, respectively.
Legendary Pokemon (these two included) have looked like over-designed crap since Ruby and Sapphire. Ugh.
On topic, the stag looks like a stag I guess, but that other thing? An eagle? Didn't we collect red coins off his back in Mario Sunshine?
EDIT: OP's suggested type combinations highlight the need for a new type reserved for legendary Pokemon that isn't Dragon or Psychic.
Alright, what about 4th and 5th generation? Latios/Latias
Bulbapedia has "origin" section for all Pokemon.
EDIT: Sorry for dp.
You shouldn't trust that, it's not always on point.
Why, when we speak of north gods, its always the norse
Inuits gods are pretty cool too.
Fun fact: The last dwarf planet we found orbiting around the sun was named Sedna who is a Neptunian type of planet. They went with the Inuits gods after the Greek Gods, because Inuits are used to the cold.
The problem with Inuit gods and myths is that, in the words of most Inuit people who know of the myths, their gods and sprits were not revered but feared. Their belief system is as such that, since every creature and thing possesses a soul like man does, killing an animal is like killing a human, and once the soul is released from the body, it can enact vengeance upon you. So in their ancient traditions, even the simple act of obtaining food is a fearful and perilous ordeal. And their gods represented not beneficial things, but fearful ones... Nanuk, for instance, was the god of polar bears, creatures that will stalk their prey indefinitely to the exclusion of all other prey if you give them an ounce of mercy in the wild after being seen. The northern lights were regarded as the narrow path to the heavens, which you crossed over the abyss where land and sea ended; to fall from them was your peril. Sedna, the goddess of sea creatures, is also the ruler of Adlivun, the underworld.
All of their gods bring fear and never reverence, treated more like malevolent forces of nature than points of worship. Given that history, it's easy to see why they are less spoken of.
Yep, it was a starting point. I looked up the figures in question to make sure it sat with me as plausible, amended some details here and there, and then presented them for your consideration as possibilities.Funny, thats where most GAF posts are coming from.
I disagree. There's nothing present in these fellows that makes them more "over-designed" than Ho-oh with its billion colors and layers, or Lugia with its fins, frills and fingers.Snowden's Secret said:Legendary Pokemon (these two included) have looked like over-designed crap since Ruby and Sapphire. Ugh.
On topic, the stag looks like a stag I guess, but that other thing? An eagle? Didn't we collect red coins off his back in Mario Sunshine?
EDIT: OP's suggested type combinations highlight the need for a new type reserved for legendary Pokemon that isn't Dragon or Psychic.
Again, just like with Ho-oh and Lugia, one could take off nostalgia blinders and call them overdesigned, citing Rayquaza's myriad patterns or Groudon's intricately segmented shell or Kyogre's many red lines splitting up the blue and white. I'm with you and believe they're beautiful to look at, but everyone has different tastes.Lizardus said:No fucking way that kyogre, groudon and rayquaza overdesigned.
The overdesign shit started from D/P
Norse mythology is so passé, Game Freak. Should have been African mythology or something.
Is that the spider that spins webs in people's ears and whispers secrets to them? I recall that in Hellboy: Strange Places.Bug-type legendary based on Anansi?
Man... Still can't get over how much I love these legendaries. Yveltal and Xerneas, plus the new starters, is like a belated Christmas present from Nintendo. Awesome start to this year in videogames!
Yeah, the starter evos and third legendary are the ones I'm itching to see now, too. Although I'm quite content with the amazing material they've shared so far. Didn't they do the legendaries and starters separately last time? First Reshiram and Zekrom, and then at a later date, the reveal of Snivy, Tepig and Oshawott? To get all five all at once, alongside a trailer with actual gameplay footage, justified all of the hype and then some. I'm hoping this guns blazing approach is a display of confidence in all of the goods they have to give.At this point I just want to see the starters evolved forms and the 3rd Legendary, then I think I can rest til October...
Where are people getting the blue eyes = blindness thing from?
Eyes that are blind from cataracts will appear cloudy. That is the only noticeable change.
Where are people getting the blue eyes = blindness thing from?
Eyes that are blind from cataracts will appear cloudy. That is the only noticeable change.
Good observations, but I'm not sure if the game will have a Norse mythology theme. Black and White had a random hodgepodge of ideas. The area was based on New York/America, but there were Egyptian-esque tombs, yin yang dragons, and Japanese gods as legendaries.
Legendary Pokemon (these two included) have looked like over-designed crap since Ruby and Sapphire. Ugh.
On topic, the stag looks like a stag I guess, but that other thing? An eagle? Didn't we collect red coins off his back in Mario Sunshine?
EDIT: OP's suggested type combinations highlight the need for a new type reserved for legendary Pokemon that isn't Dragon or Psychic.
I always wondered what the deal was with Heatran. I mean, how did he fit into the whole mythos? What's he based off of? Why is he so underutilised? Diamond and Pearl was so legendary-heavy it's easy to forget about him.
I always thought he should've gotten an alternate Forme where his whole body hardened and he became pure Steel type (maybe an Ability that triggers if you hit with a Water move).
I always wondered what the deal was with Heatran. I mean, how did he fit into the whole mythos? What's he based off of? Why is he so underutilised? Diamond and Pearl was so legendary-heavy it's easy to forget about him.
I always thought he should've gotten an alternate Forme where his whole body hardened and he became pure Steel type (maybe an Ability that triggers if you hit with a Water move).
Sure, and XY will probably also be a hodgepodge: The world looks based on Western Europe, for example, with an Eiffel tower and Gothic cathedrals, and yet the cover mascots are clearly derived from Norse mythology. I like it when they mix elements together -- it's fresh.
Damn these are my favorite legendaries since Ho-Oh and Lugia, I'm legitimately surprised at how great these look (especially after seeing the starters)
Again: Xerneas has the colored gemstones of all four Stags of Yggdrasil (blue, purple, red and yellow), clearly tying him to Norse mythology. And the stag's counterpart in the myth was the bird. Guess what Xerneas' counterpart is?"clearly derived from Norse mythology"?
Yeah, no...
Xerneas and Yveltal are the final, official English names. Xerneas is pronunced "zur - nee - as" and Yveltal is pronounced "ee - VEL - tall."Damn these are my favorite legendaries since Ho-Oh and Lugia, I'm legitimately surprised at how great these look (especially after seeing the starters).
The great thing about Xerneas is it could be almost any type. I hope it's pure psychic but I wouldn't be surprised at normal, steel, rock, leaf, dark, or dragon (ugh).
Also Xerneas and Yllsomething can't be the final names right? Although they did name one "Ho-Oh".
They probably do have mouths. There have been a number of Pokemon designs that don't appear to have mouths when their mouths are shut.I hate that they are missing mouths. Makes them look more generic than they really need to :/
I think you got those mixed up and probably meant to suggest Yveltal is part Flying, right?I really love these designs. Cannot wait to see the Z equivalent.
And for the types, I would guess:
- Xerneas: Psychic/Dark or Psychic/Flying
- Yvetal: Psychic/Steel
- Z: Dark/Venom
It's the fact Xerneas is clearly the stag from Norse mythology, with antlers containing all four colored gemstones of the Stags of Yggdrasil, and the fact that if he is the stag from Norse mythology, then Yveltal in all likelihood is its counerpart, the blind bird. In cartoons, blind characters are often depicted with light blue eyes and/or white pupils, and Yveltal has both. Unlike Xerneas, who has dark blue irises and black pupils, Yveltal's entire eyeballs are blue, with white pupils. In fact, have there been any other Pokemon with white pupils (other than the Duskull line)?Where are people getting the blue eyes = blindness thing from?
Eyes that are blind from cataracts will appear cloudy. That is the only noticeable change.
I think you got those mixed up and probably meant to suggest Yveltal is part Flying, right
Ha, true. I like to think he'll be able to shoot beams out of the gemstones, though, turning his antlers into anti-air artillery... sort of like the Rock-type.Yeah, sorry, I got Xerneas and Yveltal mixed up. Obviously the stag doesn't seem like a good flying pokemon.
If they made an Yggdrasil Pokemon, it should be the tallest and heaviest Pokemon alive -- like twice the length of Wailord and twice the weight of Groudon. It should have sky-high HP and HP-replenishing moves, to boot. But it would also be like the slowest Pokemon in existence -- good for Trick Room, but otherwise outsped.The two look fantastic, but I can't help but feel they'll look like nothing compared to the serpent and Fenrir legendaries.
Of course adding a super-legendary Yggdrasil Pokémon would be awesome. Just a giant tree. Nothing more. Same stats as Arceus with less speed and much more defense.
They're much better than 4 an 5 but really?
It would be cool, yep. With those coloured gemstones in the antlers, Aurora Beam would be a suitable low level movement. Heck, given its colour scheme and that the antlers look like crystals it could even be an Ice type Pokemon.Ha, true. I like to think he'll be able to shoot beams out of the gemstones, though, turning his antlers into anti-air artillery... sort of like the Rock-type.
Whoa, I jus realized how appropriate your username is to this conversation, lol.It would be cool, yep. With those coloured gemstones in the antlers, Aurora Beam would be a suitable low level movement. Heck, given its colour scheme and that the antlers look like crystals it could even be an Ice type Pokemon.