Deadeye was easy for me this year. Just put it on rookie - casual, ask for the ball, wait till they get their hands up in ur face and u shoot while they jump behind it. Do that dnno how many times and u unlock the badge.
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Deadeye was easy for me this year. Just put it on rookie - casual, ask for the ball, wait till they get their hands up in ur face and u shoot while they jump behind it. Do that dnno how many times and u unlock the badge.
I got it for my PG & SF, the PG was much quicker though, I guess because he's so short?
panthapanda
Member
GGs folks.
Yeah I have deadeye on my 6'2 PG and SF too. Just created a 6'6 PG to be my true wing player and it's going to be a boring grind but I don't find getting deadeye too hard to get. Only thing is on my SF, I got volume shooter too and supposedly that's bad because it makes you go cold if you don't get your shots? I can only see that being a bad thing in Park since that's where isolation play is more dominant.
Yeah I have deadeye on my 6'2 PG and SF too. Just created a 6'6 PG to be my true wing player and it's going to be a boring grind but I don't find getting deadeye too hard to get. Only thing is on my SF, I got volume shooter too and supposedly that's bad because it makes you go cold if you don't get your shots? I can only see that being a bad thing in Park since that's where isolation play is more dominant.
This ArecP?
Yeah that was fun, my primary player is an SF a lot like yours too, 6'9" and a jack of all-trades kind. You should have brought your PG too, I like playing with another PG as opposed to always handling the ball.
Whenever we play on Hyrule some BS seems to happen, that's usually the team we play on when we dont have a full 5.
panthapanda
Member
Yup that's me.
I'll start playin with my 6'6 PG when I get the necessary badges. Spin badge is almost done and then it's on to Corner Specialist, Limitless Range, Posterizer, and Deadeye. Should be fun getting those again lol.
Edit: Someone made this on reddit and thought it would be convenient for anyone that wants to make another MyPlayer.
http://nba2kmyplayer.com/
So I compared an inside and outside 7'3 Center and there is literally no reason to go inside. The only big difference with inside is that your contact dunks are a 94 and your post game is slightly better but max on an Outside center is only 70 for the dunks and post game is up there in the 80s. Standing dunk is still good enough at 80. But even with the inside game up to par on the outside center, Break Starter is way too good to pass up so you really won't be able to invest in inside anyway. Plus those corner threes. Apparently PF and C do not activate Perimeter Defender so a PF and C with Deadeye are hard to stop when they shoot those midrange and 3s.
I know what my next character will be.
That's a pretty cool site, I have a 6'7" PF that I should honestly use more often, he's a 92 but I haven't maxed out his rebounding so it shows sometimes but looking at that chart he could really be a nice mismatch if I get lined up with SFs.
panthapanda
Member
Today I just found out that I can't get Acrobat without investing in inside scoring because I have to have it up to whatever stat in order to adjust my shot in midair. That's pretty wack. I wanted to get Break Starter on my 6'6 PG but that dream is dead now. Guess I won't be making outlet passes confidently lol.
You don't really need break starter with a PG (Maxed out playmaking), I don't have it on my tiny guy and I connect on like 90% of my full court passes.
That was definitely a load of bullshit but I think that game was still winnable. There are sometimes some really rough stretches where we're off rhythm on both ends and then we have to fight the machine to come back
I am going to make a conscious effort to try and get more off ball action going, and try to simplify things a little. One thing I'd like to try and clean up is too many people doing the same thing at the same time, like for example there are times when 2-3 people are trying to set a screen for you, or 2 people cutting to the basket at the same time, and sometimes I'm standing there and the team is running around in the half-court non stop and I've got no idea what's happening lol
Really wish they would make play calling easier to do and follow. It'd be awesome if we could enter a practice mode to figure some basic sets out
god damn it we are officially in a slump
sort of want to dust off some of my other guys anyhow. although I don't think my SF will be very good right now cause his shooting isn't maxed out. still have that 6'10 inside C (for our team it's basically an old fashioned power forward) and that midget shooting guard
sort of want to dust off some of my other guys anyhow. although I don't think my SF will be very good right now cause his shooting isn't maxed out. still have that 6'10 inside C (for our team it's basically an old fashioned power forward) and that midget shooting guard
panthapanda
Member
Anybody know how many seasons your MyPlayer can play? I'm on like year 7 just leaving the game on to collect contract VC and doing connections and such with my 99 PG. there are still some badges I could get, not that I need them, but don't want to close that window just yet.
I think you can play till you're 40? That's what I heard
I'm terrified to find out the truth
That was definitely a load of bullshit but I think that game was still winnable. There are sometimes some really rough stretches where we're off rhythm on both ends and then we have to fight the machine to come back
I am going to make a conscious effort to try and get more off ball action going, and try to simplify things a little. One thing I'd like to try and clean up is too many people doing the same thing at the same time, like for example there are times when 2-3 people are trying to set a screen for you, or 2 people cutting to the basket at the same time, and sometimes I'm standing there and the team is running around in the half-court non stop and I've got no idea what's happening lol
Really wish they would make play calling easier to do and follow. It'd be awesome if we could enter a practice mode to figure some basic sets out
I've been working on my offense with my PG, I can score in the Pro Am but it comes in one on one plays. In the Walk on I average a lot more ppg with my PG but don't really look to score enough when we play.
I played a lot of Park yesterday with Grbac and it helped my offense but I have trouble shooting now outside of the Park lol.
Yeah, better to slump now than in the road to the finals though, we'll figure it out.
panthapanda
Member
Yea Park is a whole different animal because it encourages isolation playstyle. I can be that guy in the Park but I find facilitating way more fun. That's why I can't really play Pro-Am with some of my friends because they try to play that like its MyCareer and Iso every freaking play and steal the ball from me on inbounds when I'm the PG. I let one of my friends take over the ball handling duties when I started testing out my SF. It was terrible. 3/20 with 4 assists. His matchup dropped 26 on him. The opposing PG wasn't even good. Our pace was terrible and we ended up scoring like 40 through 4 quarters. I switched back in the next game and we had 40 midway through the 2nd. It's not even the fact that I'm claiming I'm good at 2K, it's the fact everyone can't be freaking Russel Westbrook.
2K friends make me mad lol.
Anyway, I can play tomorrow and Thursday. If I don't respond, it's because I'm playing 2K in my sleep. Literally. Gotta get that cra- I mean VC.
Lockjaw333
Member
How is this game on PC? Anyone here have it?
What a complete beating we took last night, I think the slump is due to us not really having an offensive playstyle in the halfcourt and we rotate so many different players that the playstyle always changes. For road to the finals I think going small seems to be the way to go. After the game I checked the boxscore and that team had 4 guards, they had 1 6'3 PG and all of the other guys were 6'7" shooting guards, Homicide Gang has 3 PGs and that other top 100 team we played had 3 as well.
Most people play PG like they were Steve Francis, passing is only an option when they cant shoot.
Most people play PG like they were Steve Francis, passing is only an option when they cant shoot.
I do think last night we started running into mental fatigue, I think some of the things happening were just our minds not being sharp, but I totally agree that a lot of the reasons we got our asses whooped isn't far from why we lose other games.
On defense, we just gave up way too many open threes. I think some people are trying to hunt down steals and are doubling too much. We gotta stick to our man better and just play disciplined and play the passing lanes. I think a better focus would be on making our matchups uncomfortable and not letting them catch the ball in a comfortable spot. There's way too many instances where there's 5 defenders on one side of the court trying to get a steal and the opposition has 2 open guys on the other side.
And then our shitty offense kind of contributed to those looks. Our point guard last night is usually good (We don't play with him as much) but I think he might have just checked out mentally, and as I mentioned a lot of the stuff he was doing that lead to turnovers is why our offense stalls at times (I don't want to sound like I'm playing the blame game here, I do this too). I kept saying last night that we gotta slow the hell down, and what I mean by that we play with wings who really like to get up and down, and that's fine, but it doesn't mean we should always feed them the ball in semi-transition. I think them running fast to the basket all the time encourages the ball handler to want to feed them. We have too many passes where somebody throws the ball to someone who has a man in front of them, and then when they catch the ball it's an easy steal (I am as guilty of this as anyone) And last night we were kind of zipping the ball around which is usually a good thing but it was because nobody had any idea where it should go and there was too much motion. Our drive-kick game gets too predictable.
And as for the turnovers, so many of ours happens because we'll cross half court and just run straight inside the 3 point line and then improvise, and it sometimes results in one of those dribble-into-people turnovers. We gotta initiate our offense with better space, I think. This didn't happen as much last night but sometimes our double/triple screens are not good plays. We gotta let people get to their spots and then go to work as a team. I know when I played point guard there were times it felt like I was standing still and pounding the ball, but there was too much happening for me to understand where the ball should go next.
This sounds selfish but I think we need to play in the post waaaaaaaay more, whoever is manning the middle. Grbac can play and pass down there and so can you. There are times where I'll get a touch down there once early in a game and sometimes I don't get a clean post up ever again. What I mean by "clean" is that I get the ball on the block, and the passer isn't 3 feet away from me (Those are turnovers most of the time) and then I would say 100% of the time I catch the ball and somebody will always cut immediately upon me receiving it. Cutting is totally fine and I'll always pass to the open guy if he's there but I always feel like I'm forced into passing it instead of working on him.
I do think we should actually run more isolation-style plays, with off-ball action providing second and third options.
Anyways those are just a bunch of thoughts I've accumulated while observing over a period of time. You're always great at whatever position you play, but I think you and I being the primary ball handlers (Though I'm usually C nowadays) can think of these things to help out the other positions that are changing frequently. I'm sure you've heard people saying "Why didn't you shoot that!" But I wish more of us were as unselfish.
Also I don't know why I just typed all of this. I think you and I are the only ones who read this thread lol. But let me know what you think about what I wrote, and we can maybe start hashing out a more methodical plan.
also just an extra thought---not saying we should turn into a post-centric offense, but I think it's a really good option for when we need to settle down and get ourselves back together, or if it's late in the shot clock and whoever is the C can just drop a paint fade or a hook shot
CrimsonCommie
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Last night every time I looked at the stats you were shooting like 6/6 or some shit and I kept thinking we need to get the ball in the post more. And then the next time I checked I had like 10 more shot attempts and you were still like 6/6.
I kept trying to help on the pg that kept driving which kept leaving my man wide open in the corner for 3. Their pg kept getting open in the corner in transition the whole game. Me and lone played really sloppy on both sides of the ball that game and they just killed us.
I agree with everything you said, I think we really need to come up with some kind of offensive system, all the good teams seem to have it. Right now we're like one of those 4-5 seeds that beats up on the rest of the league but struggles with the best teams when we play them. Honestly, I think a Princeton offense would kill, and it's really easy to run in the game, just getting the defense into situations where the other players have to decide when to switch. It's 4 out and 1 in too, so we'd be able to get post up isolations too, dribble hand offs between the 1, 2 3 and 4 on the wings with the big man flashing to the freethrow line.
I could be more selfish at times, but what I noticed in walk on atleast is that when I go into isolation people just stand around and watch, so I figure the same would happen if I did it on our team. Where as what I'd like is people to do back cuts, as long as the opponent isn't a CPU I can pretty much just throw passes as I please with the PG, the ball goes through defenders sometimes lol.
I honestly think we'd be able to win road to the finals if we switched up and got a more consistent offense, there's some cheese but at the core it's still basketball.
Last night was a lot of fun, really felt like we were getting into a solid groove with our execution there. It's so satisfying when we are all able to make it work.
That one game we lost was a lot of bullshit. Really felt like we missed a lot of 3s, but I was playing at a really slow pace so that probably cost us some. I missed a lot of open guys but I was hellbent on figuring out what to call and waiting for it to be executed. Last night I got to the point where I was trying to call a play based on who was already down the court and what defense there was, and I'm still getting a feel for it. I should have fed you (Abu) in the post more but I wanted to see how many sets we could implement. That elevators play though, damn it got us a wide open look every time.
I'm going to enter the playbooks of various teams and see what other things we can run. What I want to look for is some cross screens so that we can get one of their guys to switch onto a big posting up for us. But hopefully we can get to a point where we're all on the same page without anybody having to say much. I admit during the game you played point I was like "wait WTF am I doing, I'm just freelancing out here" and I should have thought more about my role but I was damn tired lol. We got a blowout anyways!
Something else I have in mind is the give and go. Space the floor on one side, throw it to a big in the high post, and then dart past to the basket. I am thinking about the Tony Parker Spurs play
That one game we lost was a lot of bullshit. Really felt like we missed a lot of 3s, but I was playing at a really slow pace so that probably cost us some. I missed a lot of open guys but I was hellbent on figuring out what to call and waiting for it to be executed. Last night I got to the point where I was trying to call a play based on who was already down the court and what defense there was, and I'm still getting a feel for it. I should have fed you (Abu) in the post more but I wanted to see how many sets we could implement. That elevators play though, damn it got us a wide open look every time.
I'm going to enter the playbooks of various teams and see what other things we can run. What I want to look for is some cross screens so that we can get one of their guys to switch onto a big posting up for us. But hopefully we can get to a point where we're all on the same page without anybody having to say much. I admit during the game you played point I was like "wait WTF am I doing, I'm just freelancing out here" and I should have thought more about my role but I was damn tired lol. We got a blowout anyways!
Something else I have in mind is the give and go. Space the floor on one side, throw it to a big in the high post, and then dart past to the basket. I am thinking about the Tony Parker Spurs play
That was fun, but I don't think my center is viable anymore since he's only 7'0" and I haven't maxed out his rebounding or defense yet. He was my first player so I tried to balance things out when I should have dumped all my upgrades into defense/rebounding right away. I think we would have done better with my SF, who is 6'9" and is more of a stretch 4 than he is a wing.
Those elevator plays worked everytime lol, it was a clean look almost every single time we used it. The floppy action worked as well, it's too bad that the dribble hand off (hold O) doesn't seem to work in pro am, I guess we could do it just by passing but it's not quite the same.
Funny you say that because I was grinding with my long neglected balanced SF. I plan on getting him break starter, he could be a nice stretch 4. I think you were around for my inside SG game and that can be a bit tricky to play with, but it is a fun contrast to all the outside guys
We had a second round of games yesterday and I was so bad in my last game the guy I was facing me messaged me "worst 99 ive ever seen" I hope I face that asshole again
I went with Inside 6'6" PG after checking that link ArecP posted since you end up with the same dunking ability but slightly quicker & faster which is best for what I want. Like my midget PG it'll be a couple of days before I use him, mainly because I didn't buy VC for him or the tiny PG.
I didn't know you could get break starter with SFs, I'll have to get that on my guy. As for the second round of games, I wouldn't worry too much about it, we seem to be going through a phase of working on our gameplan lol.
panthapanda
Member
Yea there really isn't any reason to go PG or C in this game. PG are the most overpowered position in the game. There are barely any differences between a PF and a C so obviously height matters in that department. Really hope 2K tweaks the stats in the next game because SF are the worst in the game and it doesn't make sense how bad they are considering the best players today are SFs.
Did you mean there isn't any reason not to go?
But I hear you anyways on the rest of your message. What I hope they do is take away the stupid grouping of attributes. It was so much better when you could increase the attributes individually. What if I want to be a big man who shoots mid-range shots but not 3s, and would rather be able to put the remaining extra points into passing? They need to overhaul that shit. I hate being a big guy and feeling like I have to increase my guy's jumper rating just because shot close actually is a very relevant thing.
And team, I think I like my soft ASS C better for Pro-AM play at the moment. Having break starter is nice and cool but this guy currently has pretty much all the badges my inside guy does not, but he can space the floor a hell of a lot better.
I agree about SF, it's mainly because they are so slow if you make them over 6'7", my guy is 6'9" and moves like he's stuck in mud even though he's maxed out athletically. You can't explode out of dribble moves like the other wing players, they end up being a lot like the PF which is stupid.
I also agree with this, getting rid of the bucket system would lead to more individuality in the players. You honestly cant make a Draymond Green type of player with the bucket system, the NBA is all about individual talent and the game doesn't really support that because the bucket system leads to everyone being the same. If they're going to keep the bucket system they really need to expand the player types beyond inside, outside and balanced.
Your soft C didn't look too soft yesterday, he was dunking all over fools lol.
Zep?
Nah, it's Mak
panthapanda
Member
Whoops. Yup, no sleep jumbles my sentences.
I wouldn't mind the individual upgrades but they would need to carefully balance the VC needed to upgrades those stats. Fully upgrading a player right now is like 200k VC? That's like 50$ for a fully upgraded player. The only thing I like about the bucket system is that Speed is cheap to get. It was so damn expensive upgrading individually.
Even though we lost last night it was cool to play a team that executed really well and had a strategy in beating ours. We're still getting used to the zone (I had to constantly call it out to remind myself) but I think we should have won that game anyways. The CPU putting all those daggers in us was just plain fucking stupid lol. There needs to be a code that if you're a coward and let the CPU take the last shot that it should never go in!
It's always nice to play a team that doesn't talk dumb shit back right away. They too enjoyed good competition, and we could take a page or two from how they were executing. Once I saw that their big was setting proper off-ball screens in the right places and their guys were going to certain spots I knew we were in for a good one.
It's always nice to play a team that doesn't talk dumb shit back right away. They too enjoyed good competition, and we could take a page or two from how they were executing. Once I saw that their big was setting proper off-ball screens in the right places and their guys were going to certain spots I knew we were in for a good one.
I think they were using the play calling, once they saw the zone they started walking the ball up as though they were using it.
I wish we could practice plays because it's really hard to do in game. They sure seemed like they knew where they were going
I think I'm gonna work on getting that SF pumped up next, I like what he has to offer. My pg and soft C have all the badges but my inside C only has a few and same with the SF. Takes time though
I think I'm gonna work on getting that SF pumped up next, I like what he has to offer. My pg and soft C have all the badges but my inside C only has a few and same with the SF. Takes time though
Got this swipe block with my SF yesterday. Didn't even know what happened till I saw the ball!
https://youtu.be/wf-wZRYh4KQ
https://youtu.be/wf-wZRYh4KQ
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It seriously irritates me knowing that outside was just the better choice. It makes me want to reverse course now but I already got started on this guy and he shoots fine enough
He's almost maxed in shooting and will have good passing and rebounding stats (break starter Soon) only weakness is layups will be level 14, but I'm only taking open can't miss layups with this guy
It seriously irritates me knowing that outside was just the better choice. It makes me want to reverse course now but I already got started on this guy and he shoots fine enough
He's almost maxed in shooting and will have good passing and rebounding stats (break starter Soon) only weakness is layups will be level 14, but I'm only taking open can't miss layups with this guy
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It seriously irritates me knowing that outside was just the better choice. It makes me want to reverse course now but I already got started on this guy and he shoots fine enough
He's almost maxed in shooting and will have good passing and rebounding stats (break starter Soon) only weakness is layups will be level 14, but I'm only taking open can't miss layups with this guy
That's fine, Sizzles guy is balanced too right?
My 6'6" PG is going to be a lot of fun, I tried him in a Walk on and despite him only being a 76 I was able to finish in the lane which none of my guys can do lol.
Yeah I think so, but when we both have our forwards the game puts him at the 4 but it worked fine in the game we played
I think my guy's post up ratings will be high enough that he can take fades over small guys or drive in
What is the reason for that? My SF is 6'9" and maxed out on defense yet when I play with Sizzle it puts my guy at the 3 and his at the 4, is it related to rebounding? I think I'm at level 10 there for my SF.
Yeah I was thinking that too since we have outside bigs that having wing players that can post up would be a nice wrinkle.
CrimsonCommie
Member
My SF is 6'7" balanced and maybe level 5 rebounding. I have no idea why it keeps putting me at the 4 and y'all at the 3.
That's weird, cause Phee said his guy is bad at finishing in the lane and so is mine, your inside is probably higher than mine.
I got completely wrecked that game
That was a bad game for everyone other than Grbac.
They really used the 3-2 well, their wings looked to be around 6'3 to 6'7" and covered ground quickly and protected their perimeter. In real basketball the way to beat the 3-2 is from the sides and getting a big man to come to the foul line to pass from there. The triangle would work too but more basic would be big men flashing to the foul line and people cutting on the baseline.
Yeah it's funny how I'm complaining about a lack of competition and then we run into those guys. And they're crazy. They don't take any plays off. It felt like we had to win every damn possession or else they were going to make the lead balloon. And they're piranhas in the passing lanes so I can't just pass where ever. I think playing crap teams so much forms tiny bad habits and then dealing with the elite teams throws me off rhythm a little.
Hopefully we run into another squad like that so we can practice beating that kind of defense
BTW my whole issue that game with me was defense. I pride myself on taking my match up out of it but it was doubly frustrating to keep getting beat off the dribble by the same shit.
Hopefully we run into another squad like that so we can practice beating that kind of defense
BTW my whole issue that game with me was defense. I pride myself on taking my match up out of it but it was doubly frustrating to keep getting beat off the dribble by the same shit.
panthapanda
Member
By the hesitation 3, Kobe Bryant cheese??? I know it's a bit risky but the percentages are on your side, of a guy plays like that then I just play the drive and give him the shot. So I'm playing like a good distance between us and probably have enough space to have a man between us. I'll give them the three, which they tend to take, and they don't make it that often. Only thing is that you can't gamble on steals or abuse the turbo button because that makes you over commit. So no turbo and no steals unless you have a help defender ready to pick up. That's how I deal with those cheese PGs.
My friend always jokes on me when we play 2v2s but he doesn't play perimeter at all. Playing against the constant hesitation 3 left right cheese is the most frustrating thing ever but I learned that staying still when they go through their animations help with the whole momentum thing 2K has that makes you get beat.