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New Halo 3 SP Campaign screenshot
- Thread starter Tieno
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nelsonroyale said:
I think what got me is that it passed the "I thought it was prerendered CG and found out it was an in-game and not cinematic" test. And the other games I have seen so far have failed to do that.
If I really want to inspect and analyze the pic closely, I can try to prove to myself why it wouldn't have to be prerendered (you mention comparing models, etc.). But the fact that initial impression was that and I normally don't get that impression from other screenshots, says something. And the screenshot is 720p, what the game itself will be, so I don't see why that is considered a small screenshot.
I think the biggest impact, like I posted before, comes from the lighting. I don't think the models matter as much as lighting (I think one of the COD4 guys said it's 90% lighting and I agree with him). As long as you have a decent model and textures, if you have excellent lighting it goes very far towards realism. Whatever combo of model detail, texture detail and lighting that has been put together here is just really well put together. Sure you can always have higher polys and more detailed textures, but if the lighting isn't done right, a lot of that gets wasted IMO.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Looks awesome.
Takuan said:
Bullshot =/= Lack of revelation
Bullshot = Doctored screenshot
Just because there is little to glean from the shot doesn't mean that it is a bullshot. Now, this isn't to say the shot can't be of little value to someone; I'm just saying this is a accurate, non-doctored shot from the campaign. What you "get" out of it is something completely different.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Shogmaster said:
The irony...
A) You don't really understand the meaning of the word beta in development.
B) What? No, it doesn't. There are too many factors to get into here but that really isn't true. Unless the Single Player Halo chief have been souped up to the degree that all the other characters/environments/vehicles they are showing on screen are using 1/10th of the complexity.
C) Just stop, you're not going to get anywhere with this.
Buttonbasher
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RUN!NeXuSDK said:
syllogism said:
Why are you still saying if? There is no if, it is what it is - this is stuff that had been stated months ago... it's like you're purposely being dense...
And to tanod, if you were referring to me when you were talking about people getting defensive, you've got me wrong - note that I haven't responded to a single person that said that the screenshot didn't look hot to them graphically - opinions are opinions, although most are probably just trolling anyways - those comments I don't really care about...
It's the ignorant ones that don't get how a 3rd person screenshot of a FPS cannot in any shape or form be in-game... it literally boggles my mind, as if people consider it a totally separate set of code or something... or the ones calling the shot a bullshot or a cutscene when the shot has been perfectly explained in the OP and at Bungie.net...
It's like one paragraph of text for crying out loud... and for people that think Bungie are big bad liars, all they have to do is wait till September 25th - real simple... stop messing up a perfectly good thread...
AltogetherAndrews
Member
got2bekidding said:
Huh? How does one conflict with the other? I think it looks good, but I also don't think it looks so amazing that it should cause Guerrilla to sweat much. I might be thinking too highly of Guerrilla, but we'll see what happens there. Put some effort into it next time, then maybe you'll manage to "burn" me. This just goes to show that the trolling issue that people see here is every bit as much a matter of people painting trolls on the wall as it is a problem with people actually trolling.
Shogmaster
Member
Thunderbear said:
A) Beta means Beta. Stable enough to be considered beyond Alpha, but things are still temporary.
B) R U Serious? Multi always has limitations compared to single player.
C) Too sensitive. Lighten the hell up!
Buttonbasher
Member
You should probably hire me as a body guard. I'll protect you from the Junior Menace!Stinkles said:
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Shogmaster said:
Relax, I know you love your MS/Xbox and I think this screenshot looks fantastic. It has me looking forward to this game. But as for your other comments, I won't really bother because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about, and that's OK.
sableholic
Member
AltogetherAndrews said:
... I'm just kind of confused what makes you think so highly of them given their track record? Besides maybe Liberation I don't think they've made a quality game.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
m0dus said:
Perhaps, but graphics was the least of the issue with Killzone PS2. And again, this shot isn't so amazing that it should make another developer nervous. Maybe it will be that amazing in motion, but my response (which was for some odd reason dragged into this thread, weird seeing as how I haven't even complained about this particular shot) was to someone who argued that this shot here would cause the guys at Guerrilla to nervously bite their nails. And I think that if that's the case, if they get nervous from something like this, then they should probably reconsider their positions in the industry.
Now if guys are done derailing this one, maybe you'd like to get back to talking about Halo 3.
sableholic said:
Take it into the Killzone thread, and I'll explain.
Tieno
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6n8ytkhyzkThermite said:anyone have any links to that video? I want to re-watch it after seeing this gif.
Shogmaster
Member
Thunderbear said:
You do know that you are the one claiming that MP online does not impact resources, right?
got2bekidding
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AltogetherAndrews said:
Fine, I'll humor you and argue with your denial between the conflicting responses between your two posts. Saying in one thread that one should dissolve their company if they can't match the screen shot posted in this thread's OP...then coming in this thread and saying it looks "good" is being two-faced. Sorry, your attempt has been listed as failed as I wasn't calling you a troll, but having different opinions in different threads. If I could, and I'm sure Bungie or any company out there would agree also, release a preview in-game shot like that...the last thing I would be doing is dissolving my company. End of story.
This looks really good...but it's impossible to tell anything other than it's got a good draw distance with a nice MC model, the last of which is really irrelevant. Who knows how good that background stuff is going to look when it's what you're looking at? Kind of an overreaction on all sides if you ask me. Can't we just say it looks good and wait for some shots where you can make shit out?
Shogmaster
Member
Dirtbag 504 said:
Then you tell me what he's trying to tell us.
got2bekidding said:Fine, I'll humor you and argue with your denial between the conflicting responses between your two posts. Saying in one thread that one should dissolve their company if they can't match the screen shot posted in this thread's OP...then coming in this thread and saying it looks "good" is being two-faced. Sorry, your attempt has been listed as failed as I wasn't calling you a troll, but having different opinions in different threads. If I could, and I'm sure Bungie or any company out there would agree also, release a preview in-game shot like that...the last thing I would be doing is dissolving my company. End of story.
All he is saying that he thinks the Halo 3 shot is solid (not spectacular) and if Killzone- given its importance as a graphical showcase for the PS3- can't match an OK shot, then Guerrilla had better just pack up and leave. I see no conflict of opinion there at all. It makes perfect sense. (As long as you pretend the shot is merely OK.
)AltogetherAndrews
Member
got2bekidding said:Fine, I'll humor you and argue with your denial between the conflicting responses between your two posts. Saying in one thread that one should dissolve their company if they can't match the screen shot posted in this thread's OP...then coming in this thread and saying it looks "good" is being two-faced. Sorry, your attempt has been listed as failed as I wasn't calling you a troll, but having different opinions in different threads. If I could, and I'm sure Bungie or any company out there would agree also, release a preview in-game shot like that...the last thing I would be doing is dissolving my company. End of story.
So I'm calling the screen "nice" is one thread and "good" in the other... and you view those as conflicting responses? By all means, keep on keeping on.
Shogmaster
Member
Dirtbag 504 said:
Gee, if all he was trying to say was that, then why did he bothered to type the rest of the stuff to disprove my simple assertion that online PvP MP demands more resources than SP? Hmm....
Tieno said:
thank you. :lol
TemplaerDude
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persiannight said:
hilarious.