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[Despera]

Silent Hill was always 3rd person view. When a new developer takes over a franchise they normally want to stay true to the series.

Check the ending of the demo they even said the game won't be like that.

They won't fuck this up.

In what way is changing the perspective to 1st person "fucking it up"?

I understand that it's very likely the game won't be in first person after all is said and done, but I think staying true to the series doesn't necessarily mean following everything they did in the past to a tee.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Yeah?

It wont be 1st person.

 

[EGM1966]

I don't think it will be first person and after playing the teaser, I think that's a real shame. I feel Amnesia and Zombi U have shown that the first person perspective is ideal for the genre.

I disagree for Silent Hill though - I love that perspective when you're essentially a voiceless avatar and it's all about the experience (works well in Outlast too) but for me the best Silent Hill is Silent Hill 2 and that means characters, characters you come to understand and characters you need to see.

The whole narrative with James and whatever did happen with his wife wouldn't work as well in first person in my view - I don't want to "pretend I'm James" I want to observe him in action and slowly peel back the layers of what's going on in his troubled mind.

That being said if the nail the tone and aim for SH2 I'll take it whether it's TP or FP.

If they make SP work then fine.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Why can't we have both first and third person views?

 

[Lucifon]

I don't think it will be first person and after playing the teaser, I think that's a real shame. I feel Amnesia and Zombi U have shown that the first person perspective is ideal for the genre.

I agree. I think you really lose something when you pull out to third person - the connection between the player and the game character is lost and instead it becomes that you're controlling someone else rather than yourself in a world. That's the only way I can describe it. And with that it would certainly make things less immersive for me and thus less scary.

 

[sub_o]

So this is the surprise that Geoff Keighley talking about. I thought some people warned us to not trust Keighley.

Tututruuu

 

[Marvel]

It wont be 1st person.

Oh... little disappointing.

 

[Baron Aloha]

I called (204) 863-7780 like an idiot

now I'm expecting to get some creepy ass phone call any minute

LOL, as soon as I read this my phone rang.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

In what way is changing the perspective to 1st person "fucking it up"?

I understand that it's very likely the game won't be in first person after all is said and done, but I think staying true to the series doesn't necessarily mean following everything they did in the past to a tee.

Uh yeah making Silent Hill a first person only game is pretty close to fucking it up imo. Everything would change, the combat etc.

Why can't we have both first and third person views?

I'd think this happens yeah. Main is 3rd person but you can switch to first person or something like that.

 

[Lernaean]

P.T. Is a teaser and probably has nothing to do with the final game. I'm certain that first person was chosen to give you fewer hints about it being Silent Hill(s).
I bet and i hope it's standard third person.

 

[omonimo]

I expected this first or later. My only concern it's we will never seen again something like the glorious past silent hill but something of different.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I'd think this happens yeah. Main is 3rd person but you can switch to first person or something like that.

This would be my conclusion.
They're using the fox engine, we can see how much detail they can render in the environments (which we wouldn't necessarily see clearly if it were third person), and how important the first person perspective was to creating the sense of fear in the teaser (with the sound effects as though coming into the player's ear and whatnot) so I can see them having the option to switch to first-person view so we can appreciate both of these things more.

 

[Lime]

Why can't we have both first and third person views?

Because people somehow forgot Silent Hill 4: The Room exists

 

[Qvoth]

so i just came home from work, what's the best stream to watch? for PT "gameplay"

 

[sephi22]

so i just came home from work, what's the best stream to watch? for PT "gameplay"

http://www.twitch.tv/thetrumexshow

 

[Messofanego]

Why can't we have both first and third person views?

I mean, we could considering Silent Hill 4.

 

[UrbanRats]

Well, in retrospect, I guess I am glad that this Silent Hill supposedly won't have a female protagonist, sad it may be that we're presumably getting another white dude as the player character.

If people aren't aware of how misogynistic or problematic Kojima can be when it comes to gender representation, read this article or this one or this one

Considering the tweet itself mentions SH2 (male protagonist) i don't think that would change much.
i enjoy MGS in its wacky stupidity, but i don't want Kojima writing a Silent Hill no matter who the protagonist is.

i guess as long as he's there only to supervise the project not being shit, it'll be fine, though.

 

[Despera]

Uh yeah making Silent Hill a first person only game is pretty close to fucking it up imo. Everything would change, the combat etc.

The original Silent Hill games had very basic and sluggish combat. It was never the focus of the series.

But yeah... a mixture of 1st and 3rd person would be fine. As long as they utilize the perspective most fitting of each scenario.

 

[oti]

Very nice surprise!

 

[Lime]

Considering the tweet itself mentions SH2 (male protagonist) i don't think that would change much.
i enjoy MGS in its wacky stupidity, but i don't want Kojima writing a Silent Hill no matter who the protagonist is.

i guess as long as he's there only to supervise the project not being shit, it'll be fine, though.

Agreed

 

[glottis8]

Just watched that video. That girl was annoying. ... they really need to stop giving announcement or builds to these people... or if they do, still put up a gameplay trailer with no commentary. They just really take away from the immersion of what they are trying to do. She talked all through.

ok.. now thats out of the way. The outside looks amazing.

I hope this is developed by kjp. i hope the combat is finally good IF they decide there should be combat, and i hope finally del toro can deliver a good SH story. There has been not a good one since 3 i guess.

 

[Klyka]

Just watched that video. That girl was annoying. ... they really need to stop giving announcement or builds to these people... or if they do, still put up a gameplay trailer with no commentary. They just really take away from the immersion of what they are trying to do. She talked all through.

ok.. now thats out of the way. The outside looks amazing.

I hope this is developed by kjp. i hope the combat is finally good IF they decide there should be combat, and i hope finally del toro can deliver a good SH story. There has been not a good one since 3 i guess.

Look son, no one gave her that demo. no one asked her or paid her to make that video.
Just like everyone else she downloaded the demo from PSN last night and then she was the first one to actually figure it out and beat it.

That video you see? That's a highlight from her twitch stream which was watched by 3 people at the time.
Then I made this thread and linked her video and BAM Internet explode.

 

[Lime]

Just watched that video. That girl was annoying. ... they really need to stop giving announcement or builds to these people... or if they do, still put up a gameplay trailer with no commentary. They just really take away from the immersion of what they are trying to do. She talked all through.

It's a recording of a livestream of a regular person playing the game, not an official trailer or reveal or anything.

 

[Crunch King]

I think this just jumped to the top of my most wanted list.

I mean, DAMN. Kojima and Del Toro? Yes please.

Silent Hill 2 and 3 are two of my favourite games of all time. I don't expect this to be like them, but hopefully it can be excellent (and scary!) in its own right.

 

[DieH@rd]

GAMETRAILERS playthrough is awesome!
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/v8m2zq/gt-live-highlights-silent-hills-teaser

 

[Shining]

Pleeease let the final game be anything like the demo.

 

[Z0mbicide]

Any speculation on what the Silent Hill(s) moniker could mean?

Multiple main characters? Separate story arcs? A way to tie in all the disparate game story lines?

I'm excited over the possibilities.

And why are people writing off 1st person so readily? We can have a mixture of the two. How many examples do you need that both do work when necessary?

 

[WITHE1982]

Any speculation on what the Silent Hill(s) moniker could mean?

Multiple main characters? Separate story arcs? A way to tie in all the disparate game story lines?

I'm excited over the possibilities.

And why are people writing off 1st person so readily? We can have a mixture of the two. How many examples do you need that both do work when necessary?

I think there was a graphic a few pages back saying "this demo is in no way related to the final product". I'm guessing people are just putting 2+2 together.

I have a hunch it will be 3rd person though. I believe the sole purpose of the 1st person demo was to hide the identity of the main protagonist.

I'll off to GAME after work to pre-order. Even if they've not heard of it I'm just gonna throw £5 at them and demand they keep me a copy.

 

[glottis8]

It's a recording of a livestream of a regular person playing the game, not an official trailer or reveal or anything.

That makes more sense. i just watched the full playthrough from gametrailers... its pretty amazing the mood and atmosphere they are creating. i think the first person adds to the whole apartment.

I think its awesome.

Also.. the loading icon, the 3 circles is a giveaway that it has something to do with SH.

I think it works.. no combat... just well paced atmosphere and events. i think it works. Even with the gametrailer peeps talking all the way through.

 

[Z0mbicide]

I think there was a graphic a few pages back saying "this demo is in no way related to the final product". I'm guessing people are just putting 2+2 together.

I have a hunch it will be 3rd person though. I believe the sole purpose of the 1st person demo was to hide the identity of the main protagonist.

I'll off to GAME after work to pre-order. Even if they've not heard of it I'm just gonna throw £5 at them and demand they keep me a copy.

That could be true, but obviously the advantages of first person horror isn't lost of them. They artfully had narrow hallways and just the right amount of view distance, I don't think they'd put so much attention on keeping the player perceptively blind and not having the intention on using those qualities in the future. It worked very well in segments of Silent Hill 4. I can definitely see them using a combination of both in certain game sections.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

This numbers show up a few seconds before the ghost lady kills you.

Compared with the 7780 numbers... any ideas?

 

[Shredderi]

Watched that gametrailers video and holy fuck I had to look away from the screen a few times so as to not get jump scared.

Spoiler

Didn't work. My heart...

 

[Klyka]

Uh guys....

These are the numbers, right?

now we got 204863

we leave the 20 alone.

so we got 4863.

the difference between 48 and 63? It's 15. 63 - 48 = 15

2015

Silent Hill 2015 confirmed?

 

[TheHollowNight]

Just watched that video. That girl was annoying. ... they really need to stop giving announcement or builds to these people... or if they do, still put up a gameplay trailer with no commentary. They just really take away from the immersion of what they are trying to do. She talked all through.

Quit being a jabroni, jabroni.
She was the first to figure it out so kudos to her.

 

[Lime]

I suppose that the negative thing about inviting Kojima into this series is that we'll have to endure the crazy conspiracy/Illuminati/"professional theorists" fans from MGS, who overanalyze the everything in the teaser, the marketing, the final game and Kojima's food tweets. (

Spoiler

I know some people are joking with this shit but there's always so much of it

)

 

[glottis8]

http://youtu.be/8vtrGF0ZTRc

here is gameplay with no commentary. Its so creepy.

 

[Izcarielo]

Why can't we have both first and third person views?

Yeah, the can always do like in SH4: first person in the house, and 3rd person in the outside

 

[Adry9]

http://www.twitch.tv/thetrumexshow

Brilliant.

 

[sublimit]

I am a bit disappointed that they chose a well known actor to be the protagonist and just plastered his face on the character model.
I prefer it much more when the character models come from the imagination of the artists instead and there's a concept stage when they are brainstorming to "find" the right face.Some of the greatest examples were in this very series with the SH2 cast.

Everything began with simple sketches and the artists transformed them to beautiful renders and believable real time characters.This creation process ads more artistic value to a project than just plastering a real life actor's to an in-game model IMO. Imaginary characters make the game's setting more personal for me and help me more in being immersed in a unique and imaginary otherworld when there are no reminders of real life people.

 

[Cosmozone]

Thread title sounds awesome! Is it awesome (a game)? Having the real face of a live actor is sort of a bummer, but the rest... Awesome! Will check this out!

 

[chadboban]

It's incredibly average, with 2 scenes worth seeing, one of which is balls to the wall incredible. Absolutely awesome and terrifying scene, but the rest of the movie mediocre.

Yeah, it seems like you and brandonh83 have saved me from wasting my time with that one.

 

[VampMuse]

Uh guys....

These are the numbers, right?

now we got 204863

we leave the 20 alone.

so we got 4863.

the difference between 48 and 63? It's 15. 63 - 48 = 15

2015

Silent Hill 2015 confirmed?

If that's what it means FUCK YES! I was creeping my girlfriend out by repeating it to her, and saying Look Behind you lol.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Uh guys....

These are the numbers, right?

now we got 204863

we leave the 20 alone.

so we got 4863.

the difference between 48 and 63? It's 15. 63 - 48 = 15

2015

Silent Hill 2015 confirmed?

and why would we leave the 20 alone? :lol

 

[Revolutionary]

GAMETRAILERS playthrough is awesome!
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/v8m2zq/gt-live-highlights-silent-hills-teaser

Yeah watched this last night after I tapped out around 2am. Funny stuff. Watched all kinds of streams last night, actually. It was like Outlast's release date all over again.

I am a bit disappointed that they chose a well known actor to be the protagonist and just plastered his face on the character model.
I prefer it much more when the character models come from the imagination of the artists instead and there's a concept stage when they are brainstorming to "find" the right face.Some of the greatest examples were in this very series with the SH2 cast.

Everything began with simple sketches and the artists transformed them to beautiful renders and believable real time characters.This creation process ads more artistic value to a project than just plastering a real life actor's to an in-game model IMO. Imaginary characters make the game's setting more personal for me and help me more in being immersed in a unique and imaginary otherworld when there are no reminders of real life people.

If MGSV is any indication, it's likely for performance capture, so we don't have shitty animations and acting for everything as per usual in SH games. His face is "plastered" in this teaser because it's not the actual game.

 

[jgminto]

If the game ends up being like the teaser I'd probably just stop caring. I don't even have much experience with Silent Hill but if I wanted to play more Amnesia/Outlast/etc. I'd play them.

 

[GrayDock]

A Silent Hill(s) with Del Toro give me some Pan's Labirinth vibes, with I think are perfect for the world.

And Kojima will add another level of weirdness over it, making it unmissable.

Day 1.

 

[Death Metalist]

I am a bit disappointed that they chose a well known actor to be the protagonist and just plastered his face on the character model.
I prefer it much more when the character models come from the imagination of the artists instead and there's a concept stage when they are brainstorming to "find" the right face.Some of the greatest examples were in this very series with the SH2 cast.

Everything began with simple sketches and the artists transformed them to beautiful renders and believable real time characters.This creation process ads more artistic value to a project than just plastering a real life actor's to an in-game model IMO. Imaginary characters make the game's setting more personal for me and help me more in being immersed in a unique and imaginary otherworld when there are no reminders of real life people.

Everything about SH2 was perfect. I still to this day think about the game and whenever I watch the ending, I tear up. It is my favorite survival horror game of all time and I don't think anything will replicate the perfection that was SH2.

 

[bombshell]

Uh guys....

These are the numbers, right?

now we got 204863

we leave the 20 alone.

so we got 4863.

the difference between 48 and 63? It's 15. 63 - 48 = 15

2015

Silent Hill 2015 confirmed?

These number games never worked to confirm Half Life 3, so I'm not sure it works here either

 

[glottis8]

A Silent Hill(s) with Del Toro give me some Pan's Labirinth vibes, with I think are perfect for the world.

And Kojima will add another level of weirdness over it, making it unmissable.

Day 1.

Agreed. I rather see a psychological twisted horror attempt. Than recycled garbage with poor combat.

Man.. this playthrough is killing me... its so well done. This really reminds me of Eternal Darkness. Love it when games twist perception and really try to mess with your mind.

 

[ShalashaskaEx]

Such great/unexpected news. SH is definitely one of my favorite series but I had all but given up on it after SH4.