HH gaming is dead because companies sell 6 year old DS ports for a premium price on the AppStore ?
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New TWEWY coming? [Arrange album announced - includes tracks from new iOS release]
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HH gaming is dead because companies sell 6 year old DS ports for a premium price on the AppStore ?
Spiffy_1st
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How would this even work on iOS. It'll have to cut away half of the battle, which is mostly what made it interesting.
I think it's more that people are painfully slow to realise that, as a handheld platform, iOS is just as legit as any other.
I'm sure the sequel will debut on a 'proper' platform if that makes people feel better.
:LOL clap.gif. SE you magnificent assholes.
Amazing.
Guys I thought we understood how this worked by now.
Amazing.
I suppose the battlesystem is going to be streamlined radically for this port. I think you'll only need to control Neku and the partner will be AI-controlled. And to trigger pins you just tap them? On an iPhone I can't imagine walking around while drawing precise gestures on the screen.
It could also be a case of instead of getting a new experience on the proper 3DS handheld, instead are looking at a warmed over port on a system it was not designed for with a few new tracks added.
If it's a port/remake, I wonder which part of the battles they are going to cut. The dual-screen battles won't work on iOS, that's pretty much impossible. So, either the top-screen or the bottom-screen has to say goodbye.
I can imagine that they are going to focus on the top-screen "minigames" with Neku partnering up with one of his partners. They are probably easier to control than Neku's pin action and they also bring more variety into the gameplay.
The iPhone display clearly is too small to show both battle systems at the same time, even if the partner is just AI controlled. Maybe the partner is fighting the same way as Neku though... walking on the same field as Neku and also attacking with Pins. That way they could bring back the dual battles too, in some way... You don't control the movements of the characters but only tap either Neku's or [Partner]'s pins.
... That sounds rather boring, though, so I hope they won't do that.
I can imagine that they are going to focus on the top-screen "minigames" with Neku partnering up with one of his partners. They are probably easier to control than Neku's pin action and they also bring more variety into the gameplay.
The iPhone display clearly is too small to show both battle systems at the same time, even if the partner is just AI controlled. Maybe the partner is fighting the same way as Neku though... walking on the same field as Neku and also attacking with Pins. That way they could bring back the dual battles too, in some way... You don't control the movements of the characters but only tap either Neku's or [Partner]'s pins.
... That sounds rather boring, though, so I hope they won't do that.
Do you really think that's the case though? That it was an 'either / or' proposition and they chose 'or'? That they need the same amount of time, resources and funds?
I honestly don't think that's the case, although I obviously wouldn't know either way.
Yes, yes I do, it is all about design. TWEWY is a rare game that took advantage of all of the unique features of the DS, not just touch controls but also the fact the DS has two screens.
I know, I played it (albeit a while back). Given the mad low res of the DS, can't they just stack the screens one on top of the other? As I say, I haven't played it in a long time.
I still don't see how this iOS port means there won't be an eventual sequel, most likely on 3DS.
Seven Force
Banned
I'm still finding it hilarious that everyone either guessed a port or an arrange album but never thought to combine them. :lol
Either way, more exposure for the series is pretty nice. I'm really curious about how it'll work control wise, though.
Either way, more exposure for the series is pretty nice. I'm really curious about how it'll work control wise, though.
RuneFactoryFanboy
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If it controls well I'll buy it.
My biggest hope is that they "fix" the Shutdown PP and Mingle PP, and by fix I mean come up with an actual fun way to earn them. I hated getting engrossed into the game only to be forced to stop and menu grind off my Wii's Wifi or turn off my DS if I wanted my pins to evolve the right way. I thought that was a really stupid design.
My biggest hope is that they "fix" the Shutdown PP and Mingle PP, and by fix I mean come up with an actual fun way to earn them. I hated getting engrossed into the game only to be forced to stop and menu grind off my Wii's Wifi or turn off my DS if I wanted my pins to evolve the right way. I thought that was a really stupid design.
We don't have a lot of faith in Sqaure Enix to make a sequel. Also, maybe the could do that on a iPad, although it would probably look rather horrid, I don't think the iPhone has the screen real estate to pull that trick off at all.
Haunted
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RIP Square-Enix
You also have to control the game somehow.
TWEWY's battles need a pretty high accuracy, if you want to emulate that on iOS with finger controls you really need the whole screen. Otherwise it just wouldn't work.
The second screen would be useless anyway. The bottom screen is entirely dependant on touch controls, while you controlled the upper screen with the buttons of the DS. If you try to control both parts of the game with touch, it would inevitably end up in a giant mess.
It's much more likely that they will cut one part of the battles or re-do the battle system completely.
toddhunter
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Yeah they will just streamline it. I might be alone in this but I still contend the battles were repetitive and simplistic in the original anyway. Yes there was potential depth there, but you didn't need any of it 99.9% of the time and I'm not a 'make challenge for myself for the sake of it type'.
I think it should come out pretty decent on the ipad at least given the strength of the rest of the game.
Other than that, hopefully it is release this port, get some funds and some new fans, and then make a much improved sequel with lots of dollars behind it.
Everyone should win.
Nah, you're probably right. It'll need re-working somehow. I'd forgotten how the controls worked.
Totally forgot that's how it worked. It's also the reason I put the game down, I just couldn't get on with it at all. It'll be interesting to see how they translate it to iOS but I doubt I'll be trying it.You also have to control the game somehow.
TWEWY's battles need a pretty high accuracy, if you want to emulate that on iOS with finger controls you really need the whole screen. Otherwise it just wouldn't work.
The second screen would be useless anyway. The bottom screen is entirely dependant on touch controls, while you controlled the upper screen with the buttons of the DS. If you try to control both parts of the game with touch, it would inevitably end up in a giant mess.
It's much more likely that they will cut one part of the battles or re-do the battle system completely.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
...God fucking dammit.
I still think it's likely we'll see a sequel, the fact they're porting it this late, and releasing an album, including them in DDD, it does seem like they're testing the waters. Bringing it to a single screen also means they could making a sequel for 3DS/Vita/Cellphones all at once.
Jawmuncher
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Then again though Nier had a Remix Soundrtack come out and all hope for that game getting a sequel is null.
But like you said the porting to iOS definetly is a indicator of something.
R_thanatos
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Wait Ios ?
... IOS ?
BUt my dual screen buffering gameplay ?
... IOS ?
BUt my dual screen buffering gameplay ?
But is it good news?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
(Ah, whatever, at least now more people will play Square's best game this side of Chrono Trigger. Too bad it'll be a gimped version, though. )
(Ah, whatever, at least now more people will play Square's best game this side of Chrono Trigger. Too bad it'll be a gimped version, though. )
If she knows something then it's probably not good news, since "this thread is painful to watch".
I'm going to be frank right here, because I don't want to lead anybody on. I knew about the iOS thing, which is what prompted my comment yesterday, but at that time I didn't know that that apparently wasn't the only thing. At this point, I know very little more than anybody else about what the countdown will bring, except that the iOS game is not the full story.
someguyinahat
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Only if it prompts Square to make a sequel. Otherwise all it will serve to do is increase the price of the used cartridges, or best case scenario a reprint.
Vyse The Legend
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All we are missing is a GREE-related announcement to complete the Carnival of Dumb.
So there could be more than just the iOS port/arrange album?
Meccanical
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I told you about, Squeenix. I told you dawg.
ShockingAlberto
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Oh hey
I was double right!
I was double right!
Jawmuncher
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That just pains me even more.
I asked a lot when the teaser first went up and only got iOS game, so whatever it is isn't widely known.
With a normal company I'd expect a sequel, but with Square I expect a radio drama, uniqulo shirts, a social game, and "We are considering future developments if interest is shown in our current products. Please look forward to them."
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
SHIT. SHIT. SHIT SHIT SHIT.
EDIT: Please let there be something more. Anything more.
EDIT: Please let there be something more. Anything more.
ShockingAlberto
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I wouldn't.
As Nirolak said, this is Square-Enix. It is just as likely to be a live concert (which would still be cool) or model poser on Android for the KH3D models as it is a new game.
Steel yourself. The world isn't that wonderful.
So there's still hope... I fear I'm setting myself up for another disappointment, but I can't help myself, it's TWEWY afterall.
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