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Doesn't Snowden have his own asshole to keep watch over these days? He ain't got no time for this!
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New Xbox One Rumors: PS4 PSN > XBL, snap crashes games, ES RAM life long bottleneck
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Oh wow, lol
BlazingDarkness
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u wot m8
Sinthor
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I don't think it makes any sense to blame the removal of all that DRM for the current issues...IF they are in fact real issues. The DRM policies would have been handled by code and blocks of code, which can be removed. Now it's true that the rest of the code would need to be modified to work without the now missing pieces but that should really be a minimal effort type of project. If it isn't, I'd say you have way to complex a coding project in the first place!
No, I think these issues...again, IF they actually exist, are just the growing pains of a much more feature rich and advanced infrastructure trying to be put into place. But we'll see. Only 18 days till PS4 and a week after that, the Xbox One. All mysteries shall be revealed!
SwiftDeath
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quoted three times in a row I must either be doing something right, or something very very wrong
Yep that's why I kept trying to post the summary from the other thread
There has been a lot of people weighing in on this not just mort and thuway
Hmm tempting but I think you'll just have to go on faith.
Well they have been getting better at what they say. So much of it is so incredibly twisted it's hard to call a lie. Like does anyone even understand where they pulled the balance bs out from? How do I argue against that level of quality FUD?
Yep that's why I kept trying to post the summary from the other thread
There has been a lot of people weighing in on this not just mort and thuway
Hmm tempting but I think you'll just have to go on faith.
Well they have been getting better at what they say. So much of it is so incredibly twisted it's hard to call a lie. Like does anyone even understand where they pulled the balance bs out from? How do I argue against that level of quality FUD?
Sure he can since he apparently has a beta Xbox One in his house.
rain elbows
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This is a debug, not a retail kit or retail OS.
xaosslug
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All Credit to Lovely Salsa for this gem.
dat ass
The game crashed once, not the UI.
mangochutney
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It would have been, but they would have sought permission from the various rights holders.I guess licensing wasn't an issue when they published screens like this?
His tweet is just from Lesson 1 of the Albert Penello School of Spin. Say something factual and true but ignore the fact that your statement is a solvable solution with just a bit of effort.
It is true they'd have licencing issues, but all they'd need to do would be to get the people to say yeah sure give us free advertising in your UI video, or given that they're in control of the bloody thing remove the offending tiles with placeholder/mock-up content.
Notice how when he responded to the question of if the UI will be that fast and fluid he never once said a word meaning 'yes' - nor mentioned the words the question contained.
Instead he used different words that give the impression he is talking about what you are talking about.
He said the transition times and animations are all how the will be on the real dash - so the narration in the top left will show each word with that exact timing and it will fade out in that exact same way, but that is not to say that actually it will stall for few seconds before or after animations and transitions.
I'm not suggesting it won't be that fast, rather that the reason people don't believe a single word he says is because he has no idea how to speak in a normal way outside of PR mode when engaging regular people. Look at Shu's feed for example, it is full of simple yes/no responses.
MonkeyKnuckle
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As far as Xbox One UI goes, these are the three videos I know of, although there may be more.
NFL Experience from E3 2013 show floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ix4H_E4lEw
Friends List app walkthrough by Major Nelson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpqoJfTR3g
Dashboard leak by some kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDlPs7Xx2gA
NFL Experience from E3 2013 show floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ix4H_E4lEw
Friends List app walkthrough by Major Nelson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpqoJfTR3g
Dashboard leak by some kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDlPs7Xx2gA
Kocolino67
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They've since moved on to firstborn.
Xbox won
freenudemacusers
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the ass storm gif is too much
TOO MUCH
TOO MUCH
He has to probably run that by his supervisors, and that doesn't take into account the licensing issues. Its not as easy as you might think.
But like I said, the issue is that we don't have it yet. MS should have their shit toether.
VibratingDonkey
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That gif has made it all worth it.
Oh god.
Oh god.
All Credit to Lovely Salsa for this gem.
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Kazuma Kiryu
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Yeah, they're the ONLY ones hinting at several issues.
Indeed. That's what I've meant, thanks. However I still think it is good thing that they're not hiding it.
TheJollyCorner
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lol jond. Never change.
Wait- who else has?
L1 or L2 cache in a is also a bottleneck yes?. because its generally under 1MB. This is a typical "I heard it repeated a million times so it must be true" contribution. You don't need GB of space to hold very high bandwidth buffers.
SwiftDeath
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This is interesting
I am trying very hard not to be paranoid but I wonder if a lot of that isn't setup in advanced
At work so didn't get a chance to listen in
Vol5
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The upload function works. Wonderful. That's about 0.10% of the functionality.
If Killzone MP and the streaming works like that on day one I'll be pretty amazed. The fact is the OS running these things is incredibly complicated and what I'm saying is, is that display from Gamescom was very probably manufactured to look slick when in fact it probably took weeks and a lot of effort to show.
It doesn't work like that in big companies.
Most of the issues were said to occur when a game is running.
It's so obviously a real demo of the UI regardless of if he is actually controlling it or someone backstage is. The fact the beginning of the conference started with an awkward long pause while they seemed to have trouble to get the video input right lends credence to the notion he was actually doing it. There are too many pauses while content loads, stutters, micromovements when he uses the touchpad, in other words stuff they would edit around or tighten up in a mockup video. It clearly looks like a real piece of software being used.
NullPointer
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Today's episode brought to you by the word "Snap".
There is some denial. But at least for me- a dude who doesn't even have an Xbone preorder- I think its fair to at least wait for the retail hands on from the journalists before crying for blood? These rumors are good warnings, but the product hasn't shipped yet.
To be fair this doesn't prove much. Did you read that recent article about the first iPhone demo in January 2007? The software was apparently so buggy that Steve Jobs had to do a very specific sequence of actions through the software or it would crash (for instance, opening Safari first then Mail was fine, but Mail first then Safari would cause it to crash), and it crashed very often during rehearsals.
This is why MS releasing a demo would not be evidence either; they could easily manipulate footage using cuts or only show the stuff that is working. Anything that is staged is precisely that: staged.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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digoutyoursoul
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Oh come on for fuck sake, the gloating is ridiculous. It's meant to be games not the senate.
You're doing good work posting that summary.
I'm just giving you a hard time. Some posters should read your stuff before they throw their two cents in.
BloodMoney
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These GAF threads are like watching a movie. Bravo. 100% pure entertainment IMO.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Sorry, not buying that at all. A simple intern could do what im suggesting. You need little tech knowledge. Penello could do all himself.
Well, at least you will have another line in CV : Moderating major online forum during ass storm of the century
I don't get it, who gloated?
TrojanBlade
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Win 8 Metro UI and OS is shit and they built XB1 on top of that. Hence the shittyness continues on XB1. Plus they put 2 more OS on top of that shitty OS. Who the F designed this. Keeping things simple in design is the best design. But they complicated things and are paying for those bad decisions. From the other thread I posted and this is so true in light of all of this:
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