The hair in XV is amazing.
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Next-Gen hair looks horrible.
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Pyrrhus
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I don't get the distinction. Cutscene grade hair when you're looking at the back of your character's head from 15 feet away would be a complete waste. The game's doing other stuff during gameplay, like running AI for a dozen enemies or simulating everything you can see to the horizon. And again, you couldn't see Arno's hair anyway because he's wearing his hood during gameplay.
DirgeExtinction
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Final Fantasy XV is pretty good so far (excuse the SHARE quality):
Hidden One
Member
Dat UC2 hair, though...
Looks like UC3 to me.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
What's the point of spending CPU time on hair to be GREAT in real time?
Sangetsu-II
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Drake's hair actually get's wet.
I knew I wasn't crazy when I saw that happening in PSX. It really is a marvelous acomplishment from ND. Also after that Drake punches the dude and the water from his skin makes a slight spray mist effect.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Most of those games are cross gen though
Journey
Banned
Check the resolution of that imageIt's 5760x3240, the image has been altered by Photoshop afterwards. SO isn't that clean.
Are we really implying that ff type zero, is in any way shape or form, a current gen game? It looks laughably bad. There are games from Ps2, og xbox, and GameCube that look better. This is by far , the absolute worse looking "current gen" game, pixelated or otherwise, that I have seen. I had to shut it off after 5 minutes because my eyes hurt from the absurd camera and motion blur. I eventually got used to how bad it looks but I would never have thought that I would see this game, in a graphic based thread.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Unity's hair looked amazing most of the time, but sometimes it looked weird.
Also why is OP using last gen remasters. :S
Also why is OP using last gen remasters. :S
magnumpy
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Ew, that pre-alpha screenshot...
We're still a long way from what's seen in CGI movies though.
for reference:
of course, actual human hair:
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
Dragon Age was the first game that came to mind when I read the thread title. I'm assuming it's due to the game being cross gen but, man, the hair does not look good.It was horrific in DAI
Varies from game to game.
Dabookerman
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I know this is off topic, but since this is a thread about hair....
I'm still amazed that fur like this could be pulled off on a PS2. Simply incredible, though the frame rate did suffer...
In case you or anyone else was curious how hair is typically done...
http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/HairTechnique
Hair is VERY hard.
The reason why Drakes hair looks amazing is because the artists spent a ridiculous time and effort on them.
Caayn
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Sorry but that's a shot created by Insomniac to promote DLC. The original picture is 1080p, the one you posted is 900p
Here are a few unaltered shots I took from the game. Now please take note that I'm not saying that the game has a bad IQ.
The only things those devs are still good for: CGI porn.
I'm fairly certain most games are far off from Forzen's hair count. There's more rigs and polygon counts in Elsa's hair than most character models.
Hell you'd be insane to put in the number of rigs that were placed in Rapunzel's hair for a game.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
AC Unity actually has some of the best hair out there, on PC, at least.
Shark Attack
Banned
AW looks okay aswell
It's actually a pretty primitive method, even if it does look pretty good.Dat UC2 hair, though...
Hair is only going to get better this generation.
plasmawave
Banned
Current games have more than good enough hair effects, and in most cases, far superior than on last generation.
Also, even if the game is buggy, great hair is preserved.
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Deleted member 125677
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Sunset Overdrive's hair is indeed fantastic. Seeing images of it doesn't do it justice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Y-AI9p_xI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Y-AI9p_xI
Dr. Black Jack
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wrekt
Ew, that pre-alpha screenshot...
We're still a long way from what's seen in CGI movies though.
The problem with Unity's hair is that the individual strands are too thick and readily visible. It looks too stiff and robs the rendered hair of the softness seen in real (washed) hair. It's got great lighting though, looks great in motion, and it's a big step in the right direction.
BigTnaples
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Where are all the FF shits coming from? Is there a beta or somthing? Thought it was a SP game?
Poetic.Injustice
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you would prefer this?
hair is difficult to do. next gen is the same, but it still looks better than previous gen.
Lol I just saw that hair tutorial on YT.
Depends on the game:
Some do it better than others. But until more geometry based stuff catches on, it will all look rather similar.
Sorry but the face of the dude at the right is not next gen.
Well darn, enemy combatant #1,239 isn't as detailed. lol
I took some shots and made a gif for the fun of it.
Beach front by a windy ocean.
Marius' hair always seems to be lit correctly, and cast shadows correctly. It looks great in game.
Looks even better on PC, those are screenshots from the X1 that I just took.
It was horrific in DAI
Varies from game to game.
That is horrifying.
I said goddamn. For real.
GravityMan
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It shouldn't be that difficult to design hair that looks good, even on PS4/X1. That mainly boils down to artistic talent. The much harder technical challenge is getting it to animate realistically during gameplay while retaining good performance. I have yet to see a game that gets it exactly right. The animation in Lara Croft's hair and the FFXV characters are good attempts, but they are overdone (too free-flowing) and make the hair seem like it lacks weight. Wind physics implementation also needs improvement. Realistically, the speed and direction of wind tends to fluctuate slightly in a randomized manner, instead of blowing at a precise constant speed.
Current-gen hair in general does not look nor animate "horribly", though. That's way too harsh. Within a couple of years, cross-gen development should be pretty much dead, and most AAA games will probably be on improved engines tailored for current gen. By then, hair should look and move better across the board.
The OP picked poor examples for his argument.
Current-gen hair in general does not look nor animate "horribly", though. That's way too harsh. Within a couple of years, cross-gen development should be pretty much dead, and most AAA games will probably be on improved engines tailored for current gen. By then, hair should look and move better across the board.
The OP picked poor examples for his argument.
Kurt Angle
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thats why Triple H shaved it off
paragonpro
Banned
Tomb raider de, unity, and ffXV would like to have a word with you op.
Haunted
Member
We already have.
There will always be some weird stragglers like the OP.
LOLIt was horrific in DAI
Varies from game to game.
Worthy successors to the plastic toupees of Mass Effect.