Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
Yeah the layers look awful. I would have to have it be placed with a V facing the way the letter does and the PS symbol facing me or have it be a smooth front
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
- Status
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
So there was no leak/news about the game yesterday?
I'm beginning to think this whole click of insiders just likes to play games on the pheasants. Throw us a bone man, you won't have to read our wild fantasies then.
Run boy run! This race is a prophecy
Run boy run! Break out from society
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
It not like they had articles in Wired and then confirmed it was coming this year at their CES show this year, stuff that is being reported everywhere on the mainstream press...
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
It's a phase change heat transfer device that works on a similar principle to heat pipes and a vapour chamber. Where the heat source (the processor in this case) boils a liquid (in this case water under negative barometric pressure and dosed to reduce the boiling point). The vapour travels up to the heat sink (in this case the radiator) where heat is exchanged with air blown over the finned surface. The condensing fluid falls under gravity back down to the heat source.
The biggest difference between heat pipes/vapour chamber and a thermosyphon is the way the condensed liquid returns to the heat source. In a Thermosyphon it's by gravity. In heat pipes/vapour chamber it's through a porous wick via capillary action (i.e. the same principle by which water travels up a piece of toilet paper when you dip one end in water).
The issue with Thermosyphons is that they need to be carefully designed with a large enough diameter in the tubing to avoid surface tension effects overcoming the force of gravity; thus reducing efficiency, as well as having limitations in their operating orientation. For a thermosyphon, because it relies on gravity, the heat sink needs to be located vertically above the heat source, otherwise there would be no hydro-static pressure to push the liquid back to the heat source.
Also, as with all phase-change devices, if the heat source fails to remain sufficiently fully wetted during operation, film boiling can occur; which is where a thin film of vapour sits over the metal connected to the heat source, providing a barrier to heat transfer and allowing the heat source temperature to rise well above the boiling point of the liquid. Given that thermosyphons rely on gravity to the return the liquid, this is a much bigger problem for them than for heat pipes/vapour chambers.
I think thermosyphons also require much larger heat fluxes for them to operate efficiently. So I would presume for a consoles they would be out of the question, unless the console APUs are pushing 250 to 300 watts (and even then the thermosyphon cooler would need to be very carefully designed).
Last edited:
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
If they’d make it compatible all the way down to PS2, you’d think Sony would be at least as smart as MS and add the games to their own digital store for 4.99-9.99$, it’d ne easy money instead of letting people raise prices on the used market as it has been going for years now on older consoles, making a lot of those those games overpriced.
Gamernyc78
Banned
It's not like the average person knows when and if it's releasing after tht minimal press push. You see what I did?
DrDamn
Member
This is what he said ...
When asked if that meant HB2 was coming to PS5 he clarified...
So no, he didn't say HB2 was coming to PS5.
IkarugaDE
Member
Same here, wasn't convinced after I saw it and was satisfied after it was clear it is the dev kit. But know I like the V-shape. IMO we will get a new design anyway, lets see if the V stays.
BTW its interesting the devkit seems to be so small against the XSX console.
IkarugaDE
Member
I didn't read that text here in GAF. I only saw a Reddit post with the exact same content and there HB2 was listed as a PS5 start title. IMO someone stole it from here and repeated it wrong, lol.
Last edited:
Hawking Radiation
Member
There will be NOTHING shown this month thats for sure or next month.
Sony already cancelled PAX East. There was an article about them wrestling with bill of manufacturing costs with PS5.
I fully expect Sony to hold out until the last possible minute (which i'm assuming will be around E3 time) to show off PS5 and the price of the console as well.
Another reason for me to believe the above is that there are big current gen titles like Dreams and Last of Us 2 that need the spotlight. You don't want to throw PS5 in the spotlight when you have your premier studio Naught Dog having to release The Last Of Us 2 on current gen.
This is my thought process for not expecting anything from Sony for a few months. I'd love to be wrong and be surprised by a State Of Play showing the PS5 box or anything related to it but i'm not holding my breath.
Sony already cancelled PAX East. There was an article about them wrestling with bill of manufacturing costs with PS5.
I fully expect Sony to hold out until the last possible minute (which i'm assuming will be around E3 time) to show off PS5 and the price of the console as well.
Another reason for me to believe the above is that there are big current gen titles like Dreams and Last of Us 2 that need the spotlight. You don't want to throw PS5 in the spotlight when you have your premier studio Naught Dog having to release The Last Of Us 2 on current gen.
This is my thought process for not expecting anything from Sony for a few months. I'd love to be wrong and be surprised by a State Of Play showing the PS5 box or anything related to it but i'm not holding my breath.
Last edited:
IkarugaDE
Member
IMO that's not a reason. I mean, really EVERYONE knows the PS5 hits the scenes at the end of this year and it will be BC to PS4 as a minimum, so everyone with a PS4 or 5 can play these games. At the other side I would say a PS5 reveal would improve the attention to these titles. Look how many people are disappointed if sony posts something on Twitter and it had nothing to do with the PS5. If sony fully revealed it, there could be more attention for other things.
DaGwaphics
Member
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
The hype train is slowing down, doing my best to take negativity out of the trail. I just need some "insider" fuel.
If you need fuel you need just to look carefully.. many fuel left behind I believe.. but no worries just wait for the official announcement
Mriverz
Member
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well, that fuel made me pumped as hell, seems like the whole thread was on an overdoes anyway.
I'm waiting for new of other Sony products as well, new Xperia, Bravia, alpha cameras.
Yesterday was total fun anyway with all the exciting leaks we got,.
Last edited:
IkarugaDE
Member
Mhthink its just because the xsx is tall. The ps dev kit has it in width i think.
/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19619662/ky0Lpfl.jpg)
its really hard to tell, thought it is comparable with PS4 Pro. But yeah, could also be an Illusion.
Last edited:
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Just noticed on that large image of the XSX that all the ports have a either letters or symbols describing the input......except the mysterious port which appears to have a white strip redacting the symbol/letters.
Why would whoever leaked this image leave everything uncovered (including traceable serial number!) except the thing that would be the main talking point!?
Why would whoever leaked this image leave everything uncovered (including traceable serial number!) except the thing that would be the main talking point!?
IkarugaDE
Member
Looks like it is printed this way. Regarding to the color the stripe looks like the HDMI letters.
But something other I've noticed after I zoomed in: It looks like the user fucked up the HDMI Port.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
For mid gen refreshes, I would love it if it's possible to do it the Sega way, like SEGA 32x add-on from original 16-bit:
en.wikipedia.org
Makes more sense than selling your current console and getting a refreshed version.
32X - Wikipedia
Makes more sense than selling your current console and getting a refreshed version.
Last edited:
DaGwaphics
Member
For mid gen refreshes, I would love it if it's possible to do it the Sega way, like SEGA 32x add-on from original 16-bit:
32X - Wikipedia
Makes more sense than selling your current console and getting a refreshed version.
I actually made my mother buy me the 32x. Sad.
Mriverz
Member
Sega was ahead of its time.For mid gen refreshes, I would love it if it's possible to do it the Sega way, like SEGA 32x add-on from original 16-bit:
32X - Wikipedia
Makes more sense than selling your current console and getting a refreshed version.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Looks like it is printed this way. Regarding to the color the stripe looks like the HDMI letters.
But something other I've noticed after I zoomed in: It looks like the user fucked up the HDMI Port.
I never noticed that, but yeah it looks a little jacked up on one side!
Fatal Enigma
Member
already posted or known?
Imtjnotu
Member
lol at this rate sony is skipping is own launch
Mriverz
Member
Cant find anything on that official from sony though.??
THE:MILKMAN
Member
That is fine as long as they also then cancel having Foxconn employees starting building PS5's in the next two/three of months in the country where this virus is a real issue right now.
Agnostic2020
Member
Ign first then game informer ? Now question is when is the reveal
Fatal Enigma
Member
Next announce, PS5 was only a logo. Box was cancelled mid 2019
Handy Fake
Member
Sony launches PS5 live from nuclear bunker several miles below the Arizona desert.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
I think that port is like PC cards ( used for additional RAM ) 3.3mm .. or not don't know
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
I think it’s deceiving. The ps5 dev kit is large in volume, compared to the SX. But the SX seems much further along in terms of final design, which I still find odd but anyway.
IkarugaDE
Member
Yeah! On the right it's pushed into the chasis and on the left the metal of the port is broken!
Mriverz
Member
Think that will affect how much stuff Xsx can actually cram in there?
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
Honestly I think showing most of the big stuff in June and having preorders then will be fine. Give general stats, show the launch games off, give price and release date.
Let Xbox have E3 and then show your stuff afterwards. Gives Xbox less time to adjust and you can counterpunch everything they said. If you reveal first they can do that to you. There's no rush since preorders will sell out immediately even if they opened them today with no info.
Do a full spec talk in September and some post launch games with dates for those as well as some montages and stuff with the launch games.
Let Xbox have E3 and then show your stuff afterwards. Gives Xbox less time to adjust and you can counterpunch everything they said. If you reveal first they can do that to you. There's no rush since preorders will sell out immediately even if they opened them today with no info.
Do a full spec talk in September and some post launch games with dates for those as well as some montages and stuff with the launch games.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
What the shit
Watch this thing getting delayed to 2021. Just watch. It's bound to happen.
Neo Blaster
Member
Wasn't that Spiderman reveal article on Game Informer?
Whats everyones thoughts on a tv/monitor for these next gen consoles?
Perfect specs are say:
hdmi 2.1
120hz
4k
HDR 1000+
Sound right?
What about people who have just bought a tv(that doesn't tick those boxes above), as ridiculous as it sounds, are they going to be happy gaming at 4k60? or do you feel they will be somehow missing out or should i say not getting the full benefit of these consoles?
I've got the annoying situation where i game at a desk, so 40"+ screens are a no go. only monitor (from a quick search) that ticks all the boxes(plus more) is the asus rog pg32uqx, supposedly out at the end of the year, but with an eye watering £/$3k price tag.
Perfect specs are say:
hdmi 2.1
120hz
4k
HDR 1000+
Sound right?
What about people who have just bought a tv(that doesn't tick those boxes above), as ridiculous as it sounds, are they going to be happy gaming at 4k60? or do you feel they will be somehow missing out or should i say not getting the full benefit of these consoles?
I've got the annoying situation where i game at a desk, so 40"+ screens are a no go. only monitor (from a quick search) that ticks all the boxes(plus more) is the asus rog pg32uqx, supposedly out at the end of the year, but with an eye watering £/$3k price tag.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Another cancelled Sony showing...? Wow... But remember the only reason there are no cancelled MS shows is because we don’t about them in the first place.
damn, this virus is doing a number eh?
damn, this virus is doing a number eh?
Hawking Radiation
Member
It's almost like there's a virus going around killing hundreds and rapidly infecting thousands.
Moridianae
Member
Not something normally faked and Nibel is reliable guy.
Welp, GDC is out too. For those insiders who pegged a reveal soon or even in Feburary, better hope for a State of Play...
Otherwise, it's a May reveal or even later than that if this virus cannot be contained somehow.
It COULD delay the system, it really could, to be honest.
Welp, GDC is out too. For those insiders who pegged a reveal soon or even in Feburary, better hope for a State of Play...
Otherwise, it's a May reveal or even later than that if this virus cannot be contained somehow.
It COULD delay the system, it really could, to be honest.
Last edited:
Didn't we already know they were skipping GDC and were going to release a video presentation? or was that just a rumour?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I called it!!!
PS5 next. By this time next year Sony will be selling health insurance on healthcare.gov
Last edited:
DaGwaphics
Member
I hadn't heard that idea before (with all the xbox twitter feeds I read, it's surprising), it might not make the final version then?
Mriverz
Member
Its a virus created by Mircosoft to stop all Sony advances on Dominating the next Generation. o_o
- Status