SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Dictator tours Crytek.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
DIdn't ask that information. And you are the first person to even attempt to ask that question.
I can't comment on "why" a dev kit was made as I am not Microsoft but you will also note that the source said that they had heard Lockart dev kits were rare.
It very would could have been test hardware until they got the profiles working better. If i had to guess it was band aid solution to a bigger fix. I dont think its crazy to think simply downclocking a GPU thats found in the XSX wouldn't translate to proper performance.
There has also been information that final dev kits went out right around the same time I talked to him. Its possible they were working with an unfinished kit on XSX which was causing issues as well.
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Bo_Hazem
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Yup, high end TV's tend to process that artificially. It's nice for movie watching and probably gaming (if not adding latency), but for video and photo editing it can fuck it up and give you bad results. Thanks for the details!
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Have you watched any 4K blu-ray movies on it? If so, have you noticed any banding with those movies? I ordered the 85" X900H and it delivers this coming Tuesday, do you have any recommendations for settings outside of what rtings.com has done?
mejin
Member
Xbox Live Gold 12-Month Subscription Returns With A 33 Percent Price Hike
It appears that Microsoft will not be phasing out Xbox Live Gold to make online multiplayer and related services completely free as previously rumored.segmentnext.com
HeisenbergFX4
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I’m really happy with mine too, no color banding. I would greatly take settings recommendations tho
Tag you as well looking for settings.
I have watched a few movies on it over my X One X and they have looked stellar.
As far as settings out of the box its really great but I prefer this guys settings then tweaked a little to our settings.
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THE:MILKMAN
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I mean if devs told Microsoft their Dante profile software was crap then I guess it would make sense they give devs some hardware that does, but then why after 2 months we haven't heard anything else about this? Everything Microsoft leaks via Brad Sams, Tom Warren, Jez Corden or even via the RDX crew. Seems a little weird we haven't heard a peep about it this close to launch, right?
ThaMonkeyClaw
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MasterCornholio
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Nikana
There's this weird theory that Microsoft cancelled Lockhart and then brought it back. I wonder if you think this is possible?
cragarmi
Member
Chatter Chatter, i think we are on for tomorrow!
cragarmi
Member
Why people honestly thought MS was making multiplayer free is beyond me, serious delusions!
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Someone finally reporting this accurately lolXbox Live Gold 12-Month Subscription Returns With A 33 Percent Price Hike
It appears that Microsoft will not be phasing out Xbox Live Gold to make online multiplayer and related services completely free as previously rumored.
Made no sense anyone thought otherwise.. what precedent is there for a product basically going up in price right before it's made free? That was idiotic.. it was price hiked for weeks while people were still babbling on about it.. I kept pointing out "All they did was raise the price" and was accused of being a Sony fanboy a few times here and elsewhere.
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SSfox
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Dictator tours Crytek.
Did he actually said this for real? I know it's taste and all, but Crysis?? favorite game of all time? really???
SaucyJack
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Xbox Live Gold 12-Month Subscription Returns With A 33 Percent Price Hike
It appears that Microsoft will not be phasing out Xbox Live Gold to make online multiplayer and related services completely free as previously rumored.
So much consumer friendliness.
DaGwaphics
Member
I've never seen the US 12-month card change in price, so not sure how they went up in price. These were never not available at $60/yr.
Price still holding in US. Just a move against weak currency?
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Sure, I could see it from that angle. But again, I can only comment on what was said. I can't tell you why we havent heard more about it. The same reason why I can't tell you why Microsoft hasn't even officially announced the Series S yet. I didn't ask those questions so I do not have the answers.
Do you want me to speculate because I can. But clearly even when I try to do things the "right" way and get things verified by mods here, people still aren't happy.
I didn't make the post in effort to get a complete breakdown of Microsoft's ability or inability to send out correct profiles and hardware and break down the entirety of the dev kits in question. I simply wanted to get a real developers opinion on things that people were commenting on and get a feel from one developers take on how things were going with Lockhart. I even posted in here vs making a thread because its one developer. I was then asked to create a thread based on the info. I thought people would appreciate talking to a real developer vs speculation. I clearly read the room wrong. But this notion that I am somehow fighting for one side? What do I have to gain by asking a developer about Lockhart?
Shambala
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If crysis is your favorite game then man I can’t trust anything that person saysDictator tours Crytek.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nah. Just something I made up for comedic purposes. The interview isn't up yet. They just included this clip without sound in their first video of the studio tour.Did he actually said this for real? I know it's taste and all, but Crysis?? favorite game of all time? really???
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Not sure what you mean; talking about MS discontinuing the 12 month code. That should eventually cause a price raise even in the key seller market.
Either way if you buy direct from MS there is no longer a $5 per month yearly option, the cheapest way to buy Live from them (and generally from key sites as well.)
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DaGwaphics
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If there was a change in pricing, I think that would have already hit major retailers. I've never seen a big lag between price changes and digital codes at GameStop/Amazon, etc. Maybe a day, max.
$80 would still be an improvement over a $100 either way, LOL.
MasterCornholio
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The rumors around the Lockhart are pretty shaky and strange. It's also weird that it hasn't been announced yet.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I don't think you understand what is being discussed.
We are talking about the discontinuing of the 12 month code causing an effective price hike by removing the bulk option.
Nobody is claiming they raised the price of any of their other codes, they just removed the one with the best value. And it will likely disappear from retailers soon as well.. and key sites.
Mr. PlayStation
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it's named lockhart because microsoft plans to lock your heart on that console with the cheaper pricing. Just give it a few weeks time and we might see the announcement.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I think it's still distinctly possible Lockhart won't come out until they actually discontinue Xbox One S.
And when they decide to upgrade xCloud (to Lockhart levels.)
Devs have to certify for it in the mean time.
That was one of the rumors going around after it got allegedly un-cancelled.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I think Microsoft is trying to treat it like the "one more thing" during a presentation. They will say it can play all next and current gen games at a crazy price. They want a short announcement to release cycle.
MasterCornholio
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Not if it appears to be an underpowered piece of crap. I guess we have to wait and see what they try to sell it as.
Mr. PlayStation
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Would you call it underpowered if the console' accomplishes 1440p gaming on every game across the board with higher frame rates?
DaGwaphics
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They never removed the 12 month option though, only from their store. Amazon/GameStop/Walmart have continued selling them. If MS was not going to offer this pricing, the ability to purchase new digital codes from major retailers would have dried up in a heartbeat (like a change in pre-paid mobile plans).
MasterCornholio
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They definitely could use it to soften the blow of the XSX price announcement.
THE:MILKMAN
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That's fine. I've always said I take any insider info at face value as whatever the truth is will come out in the end. If Lockhart was in the state as described just two months ago then I would hope it doesn't come out this year. A rushed Lockhart on top of the HI debacle is the last thing Microsoft needs right now.
MasterCornholio
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If it's a 1080P 30FPs system with visuals turned down then I would consider it underpowered.
Metroiddarks
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Is okay that framerate in a not final version, Crytek is using a software solution for RT running in a
console far of be a 2060, you can even read the RT statistics and the BHV count.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I dont even like the idea of Lockhart in any capacity. i dont like the approach at all. It feels like a strategy that is mixed and in flux.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Well I hope so; but I think this is naive. I don't think these codes sell enough for pre-printed / issued ones to dry up that fast. I mean they are yearly codes afterall... you can't even redeem more than 3 of them at a time.
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FrozenFlame
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Xbox Live Gold 12-Month Subscription Returns With A 33 Percent Price Hike
It appears that Microsoft will not be phasing out Xbox Live Gold to make online multiplayer and related services completely free as previously rumored.
Am I misremembering it or Jeff Grubb was teasing it was going to be free (or something like that)? And what happened to the Game pass tease that he also made ("I'm ready to play")?
Mr. PlayStation
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come on be realistic here, no way would Series S be any less powerful than Xbox One X? At minimum it'd at least be at the level of Xbox One X in performance on the GPU side a significant leap in CPU performance thanks to the Zen 2 cores.
MasterCornholio
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I'm not against if it doesn't hold the other systems back. I know what you said in your leak but I'm more worried about real next gen games then Borderlands 3 for example.
MasterCornholio
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Just because it plays Next Gen games at 1080P 30FPs doesn't mean its weaker than the Xbox One X.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Lockhart is an absolute massive risk for MS.
They are already the less lucrative platform for 3rd parties... if MS doesn't do well with the combo of XSX/XSS and devs are required to support XSS they risk getting abandoned as a platform IMO.
They are already the less lucrative platform for 3rd parties... if MS doesn't do well with the combo of XSX/XSS and devs are required to support XSS they risk getting abandoned as a platform IMO.
Riky
$MSFT
I think Series S is real, the packaging leaks but also the Digital Foundry video on the 4tflop comparisons. They obviously know things they can't say. Go back to the XSX reveal and they talk twice about how XSX hasn't got variable clocks and Microsoft made sure they knew that.......then PS5 gets revealed with variable clocks.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
It all depends on what kind of work they are actually doing to the game. But again its just one developers opinion.
Metroiddarks
Member
Imagine be part of The Coalition, then you know for the next games you have to make it work in a machine similar to a Xbox one X and just
yesterday you saw NVIDIA presenting the 3080 with around 75% of more performance compare to the "old" 2080 TI maybe a more against
the XSX and now is harder to find in some way optimize your games in a way scale in a decent way aside the resolution and framerate.
Is possible yes of course is possible but man all the extra work necessary to do that. I am sure any of those dev will be so happy if Xbox says
take as base the XSX because to end of this year almost the XSX will be a half of the 3080 in 4 year the gap will be much larger so the XSS will
be an unnecessary problem for the planning of each project.
Because if Xbox studios make this carefully, thing they didn't do with Xbox one, this last couple of years was normal see games with problems
of frame rate even when the resolution is much less, the third parties will be a coin thrown into the air.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
This is key for me. It will require more work but the question is just how much. That will vary from game to game.
DaGwaphics
Member
Unless these are distributed in an unusual way, these digital codes aren't pre-purchased, these are real-time transactions. Maybe a very small number might be pre-purchased, just to ensure instant delivery, but nothing that would hold for more than a day or two.
If you went to a shop and purchased a mobile refill code, that's not coming from some stash the store has, that's a real-time transaction that is providing them with a working code they can print on the slip for you. They can never be out of stock, nor do discontinued products remain available. I would assume Amazon, PayPal, etc. are working a similar arrangement for digital codes.
Metroiddarks
Member
I just expect Xbox doesn't go crazy and put a very different specs aside the GPU raw power also I think is possible
some third party just don't want to make its game for XSS but I don't know how Xbox will deal with this kind of
situations.
ethomaz
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Did he actually said this for real? I know it's taste and all, but Crysis?? favorite game of all time? really???
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