MasterCornholio
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It's the embargo thats stopping them from talking about it. Sony claims around 10 hours which is pretty good for such a feature rich controller.
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It's the embargo thats stopping them from talking about it. Sony claims around 10 hours which is pretty good for such a feature rich controller.
saintjules
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saintjules
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Just got the SualSense earlier. Feels great to finally hold this mofo.
Definitely not taking any chances. I'll be checking like a hawk all day for the PS5/XSX.
Definitely not taking any chances. I'll be checking like a hawk all day for the PS5/XSX.
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Kingthrash
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Yupp....and I'm excited.
I bought a blue yeti just to go with it. Can't wait to dig into it and see what I can add to my content
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Couple things:
- I wasn't talking about the OG game budget, I'm talking about greenlighting a new game of a similar AAA open world-ish scope for next-gen
- "The coding" takes far longer on the original effort too... that's part of the point here, you don't just take a design and go code it when making a new game.. but that is exactly what you do for a re-make as you as a developer know exactly where the code needs to "arrive."
It's akin to paying 150 people to zig-zag across the country on vacation for 2 years with the vague goal of getting to the other size vs. paying 75 people to go on a road trip that is a straight line across the same country on a mostly preset itinerary. Oh and some of the 75 people you didn't have to fund on that other trip have more expensive tastes (the high up creative types who actually conceptualize and create games aren't needed on a remake.)
Yes it's far more than a remaster.. but these things are still fractions of eachother. A remaster costs a fraction of what a remake does which costs a fraction of what designing and building a game from scratch does. It's still expensive, but game development from scratch is BIG expensive.
And I say greenlight more of them.. there are some really impressive large games from the PS3 era that could get remade for cheaper than conceptualizing a new one and still offer a "full price game" value particularly to those that never played them. Demon Souls is a new game TO ME personally and might as well be a brand new game. None of this is me complaining about the price vs. the budget.
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thurnishaleygw
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danielJackson
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Yeah it's not like we use that controller to play games or anything
Controller is super important and evolution makes it exciting.
Like when we moved from joysticks to nes to snes to ps1 = lot of changes in short time
ToadMan
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You’ll be waiting a while for a response - he’s banned from this thread for trolling.
Gudji
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This guy says that he thinks it's around 25-30 hours of battery life, without proper testing of course. Just a guess.
I'm sure DF and others will test this but even something like 20 hours would be great for me.
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MastaKiiLA
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It reminds me of when I had my PS3 shipped via FedEx. The tracking page said delivered, but when I got home, there was no package there. I was irate, and thought the FedEx guy had left it out in the open, on my front porch. Turns out the crafty bastard had hidden it on the back porch, behind some clutter. I never got a chance to thank the guy.
MastaKiiLA
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That amount of time would be amazing, quite frankly. Given how many of us loners bought 2 DS4s and a charging dock, just so we could swap them out during a gaming session, that amount of battery life is more than ideal.
cragarmi
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Id say its nearer 20 than 30, but still much better than DS4
ToadMan
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Tech companies live and die on their ability to innovate and hit the next big thing before anyone else.
There’ve been plenty of failures but D-sense is looking like a hit.
Could be Sony’s wiimote - hopefully not just appealing to casuals but something more experienced gamers will love too.
saintjules
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people trying to camp out for next-gen
assurdum
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Tom Warren when ps5 specs was revealed said an incredible amount of bullshitness on Twitter . Really an embarrassing show by him. It's far from objective so it's really tough take him seriously when talks about the PlayStation stuff.
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DarkParadise
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LOL
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thebigmanjosh
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For anyone who’s concerned about this you can arrange to pick up from your local UPS/FedEx distribution center once it’s shipped. I did this with PS4 launch and I got it first thing in the AM.
Dave_at_Home
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LOL
I mentioned that he had some bias on Era and I was banned faster than you can snap your fingers.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Just to mention, if you change to pick up at a location, this usually delays the pick up availability by a day.. at least in my experience.
It is more safe to be sure, but I though it might be good to mention.
Lethal01
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Global illumination isn't ray tracing, just like shadows aren't raytracing, but you can use raytracing to get global illumination that is suprior to the methods that are currently used in realtime games.
Whether demons souls does this is yet to be seen I think.
assurdum
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I was banned too because I said Leadbetter is a MS fanboy so I know the feel.
MrS
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He blocked me on Twitter earlier 'cause I called him a console warrior. Dude is a clown.
mejin
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no one predicted it was going to be so good.
When even the boxed folks are all praises you know shit is real.
assurdum
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"You are great guys"
LOL
MS:"Don't care we won't to talk with you"
"Wow so straight , what incredible company"
MasterCornholio
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People seem to think John here is cleverly working his way around the embargo and saying the PS5 is silent? What do we think?
The PS5 had liquid metal, big fan and a huge heatsink. Not to mention the chassis is full of vents. I wouldn't be surprised if it's quieter than the PS4 Pro.
ArcaneNLSC
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
If you can actually improve the way a game controls, that's... pretty exciting. Tactile feedback is pretty intuitively understood too so the things that are being talked about are easy to get excited about.
I'm also assuming it's gonna be annoying for some games; but that's just the nature of a tech like that lol It's going to be best when a game is having you do something with your hands or fingers in game and then the controller can make that feel immersive.. probably at it's worst when devs are doing stuff like "making something more difficult when your stamina is low."
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DarkParadise
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assurdum
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Good Lord. Why it should take time if it has already the power gap necessary (in his opinion). Stuff will get pushed better just on serie X but not on ps5? The fuck of logic is that? What a fanboy.
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SSfox
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Indeed, seeing even Xbox stans reacting like that... At least he's honest about how he feel i'll give him that.
assurdum
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I don't call it honest but hypocrite. Another developer called him out about tech stuff, to stop to talk to things which barely know, but he persist to spread nonsense. Yeah serie X has hardware advantage but he persist to say it will grow with the time, it's pure fanboysm try to argue such conjecture.
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jose4gg
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Era mods are so scared of banning him, the guy basically throws 9TF area out there without any proper analysis and he is there without even acknowledging his error.
thebigmanjosh
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It will be delayed if you select pick up at a ups/FedEx store since it’s still being dropped on a truck and delivered, but not if you designate to pick up directly at the distribution center it’s being locally delivered from.
sircaw
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Something that has been bugging me the last few days and how the term of full rdna2 was announced on the xbox Twitter.
We all know that custom engineering basically means taking an existing part, modifying it or exchanging it for one that is better or more useful to/for that particular machine. You don't remove a standard feature to put a worse working part in.
So by all metrics, sony replaced a part of the standard Rdna2 and superseded it with their own version. so by all metrics, Sony's hardware is better or more evolved as they don't have the restrictions of direct x or the pc to compete against.
I almost feel like it's shady when Microsoft uses the term full r2dna as they are basically trying to say, we are better than sony's because they are not using the word, Full, R2DN2, at the same time they know sony's has custom engineering but are not declaring it
Microsoft is banking on people not understanding or taking information at face value.
Is this Clever marketing by Microsoft or just another long line of being rather shady.
I always feel dirty when listening to Microsoft Pr, they are extremely clever and masters of it.
Would love to hear other peoples thought's here please.
We all know that custom engineering basically means taking an existing part, modifying it or exchanging it for one that is better or more useful to/for that particular machine. You don't remove a standard feature to put a worse working part in.
So by all metrics, sony replaced a part of the standard Rdna2 and superseded it with their own version. so by all metrics, Sony's hardware is better or more evolved as they don't have the restrictions of direct x or the pc to compete against.
I almost feel like it's shady when Microsoft uses the term full r2dna as they are basically trying to say, we are better than sony's because they are not using the word, Full, R2DN2, at the same time they know sony's has custom engineering but are not declaring it
Microsoft is banking on people not understanding or taking information at face value.
Is this Clever marketing by Microsoft or just another long line of being rather shady.
I always feel dirty when listening to Microsoft Pr, they are extremely clever and masters of it.
Would love to hear other peoples thought's here please.
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Thirty7ven
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Wonder how long it will take him to “change his mind”. Either way, if this ain’t proof that DSense is the real deal, I don’t know what is. This cat is basically MS PR...
Gudji
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That last phrase is interesting, if the gap was that big it would be seen from the start just like it was noticeable with PS4 and XBO. Tom is a smart guy, already doing damage control just in case the results aren't the expected.
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kyliethicc
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"Haptic vibration also works with PS4 retro-compatible games"
"We have had the opportunity to play some PS4 retro-compatible titles. Those games can be played with our Dualshock in the traditional way, but if we play with the Dualsense controller we will also benefit from some specific hardware improvements. We’ve been struck by how haptic vibration works in a game like The Last of Us Part II. Not only do we get a feel for it when we ride, right at the start of the game, but we can even feel the vibration with some guitar chords that sound like a soundtrack.
This is because the Dualsense controller uses the audio tracks as a source to trigger the vibration. But don’t panic, this doesn’t mean that every time music is played our controller vibrates, but rather that it is activated at relevant moments in the game, when music plays an important role. As we have said above, the case of the guitar chords (in a soundtrack composed by Gustavo Santaolalla)."
nintendosmash.com
"We have had the opportunity to play some PS4 retro-compatible titles. Those games can be played with our Dualshock in the traditional way, but if we play with the Dualsense controller we will also benefit from some specific hardware improvements. We’ve been struck by how haptic vibration works in a game like The Last of Us Part II. Not only do we get a feel for it when we ride, right at the start of the game, but we can even feel the vibration with some guitar chords that sound like a soundtrack.
This is because the Dualsense controller uses the audio tracks as a source to trigger the vibration. But don’t panic, this doesn’t mean that every time music is played our controller vibrates, but rather that it is activated at relevant moments in the game, when music plays an important role. As we have said above, the case of the guitar chords (in a soundtrack composed by Gustavo Santaolalla)."
5 things we’ve discovered by playing with the PS5 Dualsense controller
After spending days playing with PS5 we told you about 5 new aspects of the Dualsense controller that make the difference from the Dualshock 4. This is how the PlayStation 5 controller aims to change the way we play. We have already spent several days with PS5, preparing our analysis of the...
nintendosmash.com
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MasterCornholio
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assurdum
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That's for sure. They continue to sell specs on the paper as the holy bible and Watch Dogs Legion proved how deleterious is it to spread miraculous perfomance on the paper to the common people which grow their expectations beyond the rationality.
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Dolomite
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You could...just ask him in a tweet which mic he used, and how he came to the "whisper quiet" conclusion. Jez pretty much responds to anyone not being a complete asshatYeah it is sad, I have masters degree in environmental sciences and did noise measurements in a job + also 80 page study about noise measurements as part of the education + my boss were the most respected noise measurement expert in the country. And I dont remember seeing one (1) professionally made measurement from consoles so far, of any gen
And people believe these, because they have zero knowledge and/or they are gullible. They dont know shit about sound or measurements = any baboon with phone app is expert to them, sadly. People I met in the job, regular people, none had real understanding and they made wrong assumptions like few seconds of measuring is good(it is not) indicator, that how they get annoyed is certain mark that levels are illegal and so on.
I could bet this twitter baboon have phone app as "noise meter" as 99% have and think it have anything to do with calibrated professional equipment. And thinking how his "300 dollar mic" tells anything about the situation is stupid, it is probably some mic made for talking, not measuring noise. So those mics have some filters to make sound quality better usually. Good professional noise meters cost easily thousands (reason why they are almost never used in these "tests")
It is frustrating when people claim the system is "silent" or "whisper quiet", those literally tell nothing and mean nothing. Only professionally made measurements using standards tell the truth.
otherwise it is just random measurement, anything can fuck it up
- wrong equipment
- background noises (loud fans / ventilation / road traffic etc) = console can be noisy as fuck but these noises mask it = it is now "silent"
- wrong distance / different distances in different measurements
- wrong angle / side of device
- and 10 things more
devices must be measured in dampened "quiet room" with really low background noise levels, using same standards, calculating average from all/most sides from the device.
noise is subjective so reports are just personal feelings, not reality
Basically any device with fan is audible, only silent consoles are old NES/SNES era systems and even those emit tiny amount of noise in theory.
tl;dr it is safe to say that almost all internet console noise measurements are useless, as they are done wrongly + without professional equipment & environment
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MasterCornholio
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Dolomite
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I wouldn't know. I studied film production and have experience in audio, moving, editing but won't lie and say I'm an audio expert that can vouch for Jez in this instance. Sounds too good to be true but then again why lie about something everyone will see for themselves in a few days
MasterCornholio
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People have done that kind of thing in the past before.
Rossco EZ
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assurdum
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Nothing of new. Now because the new MS console used generic SDK tools, he think it will take more time to push it but the facts is, ps5 also will be pushed better with the time, developers never worked with such I/O management and we don't know where will land the next generation games . So it is a nonsense expect improvement just in your favourite side.
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Thirty7ven
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It will take awhile LMAO
I fucking told you guys the excuses would be coming in fast and early. Yo this XSX is on some exotic, wild, assembly coding shit baby....
It’s basically a PC...
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I agree with this. We all know microsoft pays close attention to their twitter warriors and the rdna2 narrative has been going on since the leak.
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