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[LordOfChaos]

Zen 2

99% of everyone: Duh
1% nuts: WTF happened to Zen 3?!


Using the SSD as virtual RAM...Sounds like they ended up in a very similar spot as Sony.

 

[SonGoku]

Next Xbox announcement

Fuck me for expecting anything else.

 

[vpance]

Scarlett is 4x more powerful than X.

GDDR6
Navi
Zen2
SSD

 

[Armorian]

Scarlett is 4x more powerful than X.

GDDR6
Navi
Zen2
SSD

It must be for GPU and CPU (or CPU only), I don't think we will see 24TF AMD GPU before 2021

 

[Insane Metal]

Scarlett is 4x more powerful than X.

GDDR6
Navi
Zen2
SSD

Wait a minute, that's PS5. Lol

So... 24TF? Goddamn it really does eat monsters for breakfast.

 

[Insane Metal]

On a serious note, that was extremely disappointing. I was expecting it to be, but still.. no detail AT ALL sucks.

Sony was right in deciding not to go and just reveal that kind of shit through an interview.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Guess that's it for Halo today... I thought the first showing was much more interesting, more ancient mystery, hints at a wide world. This looks more like tropeish Halo, "it's time to fight" blah blah.

 

[bitbydeath]

Zen 2

99% of everyone: Duh
1% nuts: WTF happened to Zen 3?!


Using the SSD as virtual RAM...Sounds like they ended up in a very similar spot as Sony.

I don’t know why anyone expected any different TBH.
Both are using AMD and both are releasing at the same time as one another.

 

[sinnergy]

Told you so , hardware accelerated ray tracing, bitches !!! Yeah!!! This will be the MS difference, Sony will have to do with a software solution at 1080p.

 

[bitbydeath]

Did the Lockhart idea get trashed?

 

[vpance]

It must be for GPU and CPU (or CPU only), I don't think we will see 24TF AMD GPU before 2021

Yeah. I think they did like, 2x times GPU plus 2x CPU = 4x

 

[Von Hugh]

I got absolutely nothing out of this presentation info or feelings side.

Aside from hardware ray-tracing. I guess that's fine.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Told you so , hardware accelerated ray tracing, bitches !!! Yeah!!! This will be the MS difference, Sony will have to do with a software solution at 1080p.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Did the Lockhart idea get trashed?

it was never confirmed just a rumor.

 

[Negotiator]

No teraflop/memory bandwidth/GHz figures disclosed, as expected. This feels like a game of chess.

Who's going to spill the beans first? I think they'll both chicken out until E3 2020, when pre-orders will be ready to go.

At least we know it's a monolithic APU die (waiting for mm2 guesstimations), HW RT, 4 times more powerful vs Polaris GCN on X1X (sounds promising for RDNA efficiency improvements), 2GB/s SSD (40x faster vs current-gen).

 

[TeamGhobad]

Halo game was running on scarlett.....did it look good? I didn't think it looked all that different from this gen..

 

[bitbydeath]

it was never confirmed just a rumor.

Well that is good news.
3rd parties shouldn’t be hindered by weak hardware.

 

[bitbydeath]

No teraflop/memory bandwidth/GHz figures disclosed, as expected. This feels like a game of chess.

Who's going to spill the beans first? I think they'll both chicken out until E3 2020, when pre-orders will be ready to go.

At least we know it's a monolithic APU die (waiting for mm2 guesstimations), HW RT, 4 times more powerful vs Polaris GCN on X1X (sounds promising for RDNA efficiency improvements), 2GB/s SSD (40x faster vs current-gen).

Probably Sony at PSX.

 

[demigod]

I like how they were talking about loading times but didn’t show anything of it.

 

[SonGoku]

plus 2x CPU

Except the CPU alone is 5x lol

 

[TeamGhobad]

Well that is good news.
3rd parties shouldn’t be hindered by weak hardware.

ya this is what i was thinking. lockhart might just be a streaming box, or might have been an early concept they scrapped because they didn't want to have any hindrance like you said. I think its good news. selling one SKU is much better.

 

[SonGoku]

Halo game was running on scarlett.....did it look good? I didn't think it looked all that different from this gen..

Why would it if its crossgen, expect 60fps and PC type settings increase

 

[CyberPanda]

Next Xbox announcement

Fuck me for expecting anything else.

Yea it was like Sony’s wired article. We won’t know anything about each in specifics till probably next year.

 

[TeamGhobad]

i like the elevator mass effect diss

 

[bitbydeath]

Why would it if its crossgen, expect 60fps and PC type settings increase

Dare I say it.

Spoiler

8K

 

[LordOfChaos]

Halo game was running on scarlett.....did it look good? I didn't think it looked all that different from this gen..

Did they confirm that?

It did look very this gen, but it was also developed for this gen. They could have picked a scene that showed the next-gen advantage better if it was running on that. The engine demo was way more interesting than this.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Except the CPU alone is 5x lol

"from a pure processing perspective, this is 4 times more powerful than the xbox one x.."

 

[Negotiator]

Did the Lockhart idea get trashed?

This was a Scorpio-style event, but even more barebones (no 6TF/pixel quality memes).

Expect Lockhart unveiling (among other things) at E3 2020 with the $299 bomb/drop mic moment.

Halo game was running on scarlett.....did it look good? I didn't think it looked all that different from this gen..

Halo Infinite will also release on XB1, so that's the dev baseline.

They also touted 120 Hz quite a bit I must say, although I don't expect anything higher than 1080p at 120 fps (just for Competitive MP and that's it).

I like how they were talking about loading times but didn’t show anything of it.

They'll probably use a regular NVMe 1TB SSD with QLC NAND. 2GB/s sounds good.

 

[vpance]

Except the CPU alone is 5x lol

But minus 3x because of the OS

 

[bitbydeath]

This was a Scorpio-style event, but even more barebones (no 6TF/pixel quality memes).

Expect Lockhart unveiling (among other things) at E3 2020 with the $299 bomb/drop mic moment.

That sounds more like a shotgun to leg moment.

 

[TeamGhobad]

GDDR6 confirmed. Anyone disappointment its not HBM2/3/4?

 

[ethomaz]

A Dark Souls meme.

Praise the Sun

Since we're all true fans of one of the greatest game series of all time, @Kadayi has created a custom Praise the Sun reaction to add to our kit. To Kadayi! Have a great E3, everyone.

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I thought it was Destiny

 

[SonGoku]

GDDR6 confirmed. Anyone disappointment its not HBM2/3/4?

No.
GDDR6 means 24GB is likely
With HBM prices we'd be lucky to get 16GB

 

[TeamGhobad]

No.
GDDR6 means 24GB is likely
With HBM prices we'd be lucky to get 16GB

512bit bus?

 

[LordOfChaos]

nvm

 

[ethomaz]

Like I predicted MS played his turn of the chess game... shared what basically Sony shared plus a release date.

The fact they changed the claims to “the most powerful hardware we designed” tells about they not being confident to overpower Sony.

Plus all the rumos at E3 that PS5 is the strongest machine.



I’m becoming more and more confident with PS5 being again a good surprise to us.

 

[SonGoku]

512bit bus?

384

 

[Insane Metal]

Like I predicted MS played his turn of the chess game... shared what basically Sony shared plus a release date.

The fact they changed the claims to “the most powerful hardware we designed” tells about they not being confident to overpower Sony.

Plus all the rumos at E3 that PS5 is the strongest machine.



I’m becoming more and more confident with PS5 being again a good surprise to us.

Oh.

OHHHHH.

Well the SSD is more powerful for sure, since Scarlett is using a 2GB/s one and the PS5 will be using nextgen PCIe.

 

[bitbydeath]

Plus all the rumos at E3 that PS5 is the strongest machine.

I doubt it’d be by much if it is.
Both will be very close to one another and when we’re breaking into the 4K-8K range it will be a lot harder to spot the difference than 900-1080P

 

[LordOfChaos]

GDDR6 confirmed. Anyone disappointment its not HBM2/3/4?

Nah. Extra cost that could go elsewhere. GDDR6 has way more than enough bandwidth for chips in this class.

 

[TeamGhobad]

xbox has yet been able to create a console more powerful than sony, being released on the same date.

I doubt it’d be by much if it is.
Both will be very close to one another and when we’re breaking into the 4K-8K range it will be a lot harder to spot the difference than 900-1080P

4chan has been saying ps5 is 20-30% more powerful.

 

[ethomaz]

I doubt it’d be by much if it is.
Both will be very close to one another and when we’re breaking into the 4K-8K range it will be a lot harder to spot the difference than 900-1080P

Not much sure but maybe...

12.9TFs
vs
11.7TFs

 

[Achillias]

Like I predicted MS played his turn of the chess game... shared what basically Sony shared plus a release date.

The fact they changed the claims to “the most powerful hardware we designed” tells about they not being confident to overpower Sony.

Plus all the rumos at E3 that PS5 is the strongest machine.



I’m becoming more and more confident with PS5 being again a good surprise to us.

You sure have been fallen for the Sony propoganda.

 

[CyberPanda]

Like I predicted MS played his turn of the chess game... shared what basically Sony shared plus a release date.

The fact they changed the claims to “the most powerful hardware we designed” tells about they not being confident to overpower Sony.

Plus all the rumos at E3 that PS5 is the strongest machine.



I’m becoming more and more confident with PS5 being again a good surprise to us.

Ya, no. Both will be the damn same.

Like it matters, after the relentless shitty E3s from everyone over the last couple of years, I’m probably gonna quit gaming altogether. Nothing really interests me anymore.

 

[vpance]

From Matt

There is a reason MS didn’t share numbers.

 

[Insane Metal]

I'm not even interested in who's more powerful. It won't be a big difference.

From Matt

HOLY SHIT

THEY ALSO NEVER SAID MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER

DAMN

 

[ethomaz]

You sure have been fallen for the Sony propoganda.

Wut?

 

[FranXico]

From Matt

From who? If you don't mind me asking.

 

[ethomaz]

From Matt

Exactly.

MS actually is not in a good position... I believe they did/shard the best could without enter in a path you can’t back after.

 

[CyberPanda]

From Matt

Who’s Matt?