timmyp53
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I honestly probably joined in as a phantom with you tonight. Tower Knight does appear to have a network disconnect bug/issue after he falls down. Not sure how to report it besides tweeting at Blupoint.
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I honestly probably joined in as a phantom with you tonight. Tower Knight does appear to have a network disconnect bug/issue after he falls down. Not sure how to report it besides tweeting at Blupoint.
bitbydeath
Member
Longer if you want to unlock everything. My kids have put 15hrs into it so far.
user1337
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No, the only way around it is to send your screenshots as a message to yourself (alt account or possibly a group that only you are in). I used to send it to an alt account and download it from the apps messaging section.
Garani
Member
A certain XBox Executive went public during an interview telling us that RT would not be earth shattering for game play. I guess he is the same one that approved the "Most powerful console" ad for the XSX.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
I have tested 7SIII and its really amazing. AF is out of world.
Second generation its ultra impressive too in terms of low light, tested many times but AF is.. there is no AF(figuratively)
Yeah AF is extremely critical for nature videography and photography, even for just 12.1MP it's serviceable as I need video 70% more than photos 30%.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yeah I can't see myself going outside Sony, unless I see something really meets my needs and outperforms Sony. Would rather wait for a Sony OLED if it's for HDMI 2.1.
Nickolaidas
Member
The original had this exact glitch. I remember teaming up with players to take him down, and the connection would end once he got beaten.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Very Nice recreation of the best moment in Spider-man movie history
Man, I was gonna buy/rent the movie but has no Arabic subtitles. I can watch it with no subtitles but would rather enjoy it with my wife.
Nowcry
Member
When do you think we can buy microleds "economically"?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
More like built in Share Factory Studio with probably assistance from other editing program on PC.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Maybe around 2025+? Chinese reached near microLED now, just 2 million dimming zones with 12-bit panel:
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oldergamer
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Dude your post is nonsense garbage. If you want to imply supporting multiple firmware is holding xbox back its not correct. You bring up a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with what i replied to.
Whataboutism doesnt change the fact the john from DF has also said tools are what is holding xbox back. Also likely related to how late we started seeing game footage. I think most are jumping the gun on this performance numbers.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
So you agree then, from your own words, that Microsoft likely already know before launch that Series X has worse multiplat performance than PS5. That they hid it for as long as they can by refusing to show multiplat gameplay, and that it wouldn't be fixed at launch.
Yes, sure. You are saying they can fix it. But then again, so did Sony with the PS3, But Sony took basically 3/4th of an entire gen to fix the issues with developing for PS3, so until we saw the results we can't be sure when the fix would actually arrive.
This leads to the only conclusion we can make; that Xbox Series X won't have first party exclusives for a long time, AND it wouldn't be the best place to play Multiplatform games pending future fixes, with no timetable?
So what is anyone buying Series X for?
Assuming that Microsoft had access to ps5 version of 3rd party games?
Assuming that Microsoft had control over publishers embargo's?
The first one is an extreme stretch.
Bittermich
Banned
So XSX got stomped again. PS5 is the best place to play the best exclusives and the best for of multiplats. XSX is the best place to play Gamepass, I guess.
oh no 117 fps vs 115 fps. biggest difference ever, hold the press. Totally stomped.
BTW: He was comparing an old XSX version vs a newer PS5 Version, not really a meaningful comparison. Should compare using both the same patches.
And how do you call Call of Duty Warzone, which is 120 FPS on XSX and only 60 FPS on PS5?
Or Rocket League, which will be soon 120 FPS on XSX and only 60 FPS on PS5?
Is PS5 stomped to death by XSX? Or how would you call that?
DeltaPolarBear
Member
At this point, "Soon" should be the official slogan of the Xbox Division.
I am happy for you, I really am. I am just not sure what is the point of paying for launch price, when you can just wait a while.
Darius87
Member
i think that is most likely CPU bottleneck because of smoke effects.This would be the biggest gap in the video from VGtechs:
Around 21.2% advantage for PS5. Those 2.23GHz clocks are paying off.
dotnotbot
Member
Old games? ResidentSleeper
Bittermich
Banned
Why soon? Call of Duty Warzone - the biggest call of duty multiplayer game - is already 120 FPS on XSX compared to 60 FPS on PS5. This is today. Nothing soon about that.
Bittermich
Banned
Old games? So this is the new goal now? It’s still 120 FPS on XSX vs 60 FPS on PS5. It’s a fact. Doesn’t matter how old or new a games is.
And that difference is much more noticeable than a 1-2 FPS difference.
Also, those games are way more played today and more important.
funking giblet
Member
So XSX got stomped again. PS5 is the best place to play the best exclusives and the best for of multiplats. XSX is the best place to play Gamepass, I guess.
The benchmark would need both sets of content to be identical. They aren't. Counting frames of two different videos.
Garani
Member
They are actually both credible.
- Microsoft can get access to PS5 version of 3rd party games and PS5's API and Dev Kits. Actually the moment that they publish something on PS5 (Obsidian and Mojang, I am looking at you) it means that Microsoft has access to Sony's IP.
- Microsoft is free to sign contracts with publishers to limit their embargo on competing platforms. It very much depends what all parties decide to deal with these things. After all a contract could even include limits to the performance of games on competing platform. I know, it's stupid and may be illegal, but you can try to govern it.
Garani
Member
You kidding, right?
xHunter
Member
Bitter much?
TJC
Member
Yes C9 supports 120 at 4K. It's the same as the CX in many ways.
chilichote
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They wouldn't have access to third party games unless the publishers pushed it to production servers that consumers could access and Sony definitely would be restricting devs from accessing other devs ip's. They probably would have access to the dev kits and the api's but only through Mojang. Obsidian isn't a Microsoft company yet.
The second one is possible but so is the theory that Sony or publisher placed those restrictions in place.
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Garani
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Obsidian has been a Microsoft company since 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_Entertainment#2018–present:_Microsoft_acquisition But that's beside the point: whoever is approved by Sony to write software for the PS5 has access to Sony's API documentation and Devkits. Microsoft has known of PS5's capabilities for a long long time.
About the restriction, of course if so it would be anti-consumer and all hell would break loose. But it is a possibility.
Aceofspades
Banned
To the green team: I think the sooner you realize that PS5/XSX differences are very marginal at best the better for you going forward.
Since day 1 devs were saying that differences were very small with small benefits here and there for each side. Hell even this the latest quote from Matt about tools and general specs difference:
Since day 1 devs were saying that differences were very small with small benefits here and there for each side. Hell even this the latest quote from Matt about tools and general specs difference:
Sorry, had a brainfart and forgot that Obsidian got bought in 2018, think i just put them in the Bethesda bucket sadly. I am not arguing that Microsoft didn't know about the dev kits or the API but they wouldn't not have know how third party games would perform on it, they might have been able to make a guess but it would be lacking context, there is a number of different ways to determine performance. If GDK is coming in hot, maybe they were over-confident on that toolkit and how quickly devs would get used to it.
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chilichote
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Maybe they should rename their console to Soony Series X ... or better yet, Soony Polystation
Are you being intentionally daft?
Warzone running at 120fps on XBOX and 60fps on PS5 has nothing to do with power. It's Sony's arguably bad BC philosophy. Warzone on PS5 is running in PS5 Pro mode.
So you're essentially comparing XSX to PS4 Pro, good job!
Now back to the new Call of Duty, which was built for XSX and PS5. It's really hard to swallow huh?
Garani
Member
Naaa, don't worry about date. We all get things messed up (I was sure it was 2019, but than again I had to stand corrected by Wikipedia).
I believe that MS, having strong deals with the likes of Ubisoft, plus having access to Sony's Devkits and API, were very aware of what was happening and how things were going to pl,ay out. Of course their hardware choices were already made by that time, and they can't do much other than get their firmware and drivers more performant. But other than that, you can't really do much.
Gudji
Member
PS5 is and it will continue to be the best place to play for a very long time. Third party games performance is going to end up being a wash or insignificant in the majority of titles. There's no reason to get XSX for 3rd party when the performance will be identical on PS5 and it offers a better experience overall, unless your friends play on that platform of course.
As I've been saying for a long time there's only one thing that really matters: GAMES.
As I've been saying for a long time there's only one thing that really matters: GAMES.
I will be interested to see what does these performance number look like in 3 months time but as a series S owner, not massively invested regarding performance on console (that's for my pc if my GPU ever gets here).
DeltaPolarBear
Member
But if you choose Series X because of the belief that it would run third party games the best... Well, good luck to you.
TLDR: Enjoy the games on your platform of choice.
I still remember the mutiple posters who tell me to my face that Series X has to run games better than PS5 as a fact. All the while Microsoft delayed showing the truth as long as possible.
I am not saying the console war is over. But right now PS5 has effectively neutralized Series X in every way possible. Sony doesn't need to defeat Xbox to win next gen; Sony just need to stop Xbox from progressing. And it looks like they are achieving that. And the inertia/momentum from being the biggest platform world wide would do the rest.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Is this real?
www.playstationing.com
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Assassin’s Creed Valhalla PS5 File Size Revealed
And it's not as big as you might expect from a next generation title. Clocking in at just 16.5GB for the US version of the title, Assassin's Creed Valhalla is one of the smallest games out there fo...
www.playstationing.com
Matthias
Neo Member
Stop your horses mate.
Everyone says that the SDK of the new Xboxes is underdeveloped and far from perfect. I even read that there is no RDNA 2 support yet - and the SDKs are underdeveloped, because Microsoft waited until the last minute to be able to fully implement them.
The differences are absolutely minimal right now, but you won't tell me the launch titles are some sort of oracle as they were all designed for PS4 / Xone?
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Stuart360
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There was a thread about it, but it got locked due to conflicting reports. I would of thought it would be out in the open if that was real though.Is this real?
.Assassin’s Creed Valhalla PS5 File Size Revealed
And it's not as big as you might expect from a next generation title. Clocking in at just 16.5GB for the US version of the title, Assassin's Creed Valhalla is one of the smallest games out there fo...
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yeah sounds crazy, maybe it's a partial download? As PS5 can download games partially?
Stuart360
Member
Dont know Bo, but surely somehting like this would of already been announced long ago. Its a pretty big deal if true, and would certainly help a lot with the puny SSD's.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Nope, look at this:Is this real?
.Assassin’s Creed Valhalla PS5 File Size Revealed
And it's not as big as you might expect from a next generation title. Clocking in at just 16.5GB for the US version of the title, Assassin's Creed Valhalla is one of the smallest games out there fo...
44.147 GB
Bo_Hazem
Banned
44GB still decent actually. I'm not gonna buy COD anyway with it's clearly unnecessary size. Also Spiderman MM is 38GB which is insane! (timestamped)
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Pedro Motta
Member
This is still impressive, almost half of what Odyssey was on the PS4 Pro, with a bigger game with bigger asset quality.
Nowcry
Member
the point is that MS has its slogan of the most powerful console in the world and is not even the marginal winner.
MS does not have exclusive games and has based all its marketing on power and is ultimately the loser even in that stretch.
I do not see the point of buying a console where the multis are slightly lower that does not have games and that could be $ 100 more expensive and all this without dual sense and is not well prepared for UE5 nanite where MS will see the next scare.
This in clear disadvantage, it is not necessary to paint it of another form. ms nerd hard world now with the games and with the gamepad. forget about your most powerful narrative and start with the games narrative.
however still too green for when you can do it we will be waiting for the midgen. so it seems totally unproductive to buy an Sx with a much lower use value compared to the competition. And so you hope to get 90M subscribers of the gamepass to make it profitable?
at this point the comparisons no longer matter, MS must get down to work and its fans demand it.
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