Bingo.
I'd like to include Bossy/Trottier...but Trottier wasn't quite at Bossy's level.
Also I'd like to swap out Messier and insert Kurri. Thank you.
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NHL Stanley Cup 2017 Finals [OT]- To Catch a Predator
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I'd like to include Bossy/Trottier...but Trottier wasn't quite at Bossy's level.
Also I'd like to swap out Messier and insert Kurri. Thank you.
Reckless Abandon
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Came in to re-live last night through the eyes of hockeyGAF, was not disappointed. What a postseason. Great to see Flower hand the Cup off to Murray. That whole thing wouldn't have worked at all if either of them were selfish or whined. Consummate professionals. I'll miss Flower for sure.
I agree with your opinion on competitive parity between the two leagues, however the Miami Heat repeated in 2012/2013 and the Lakers a few years before that.
I agree. Would have liked to see Geno get the Conn but Crosby coming alive in the SC Finals and Geno's penalty minutes were probably the difference. Heard that Malkin was the 1st player since Gordie Howe to lead the playoffs in points and penalty minutes. He takes the occasional dumb penalty for sure, but I'll always dig his fire and passion. He lets it all hang out.
Ha, love me some Gonch. He helped make Malkin the Geno he is.
Yeah, broken ankle for Bones. Horny had broken fingers, Cole I think had a broken hand and ribs. Hagelin never seemed right, though he was flying yesterday (especially towards that empty net).
Cheers, PensGAF! It was a wild ride.
I agree with your opinion on competitive parity between the two leagues, however the Miami Heat repeated in 2012/2013 and the Lakers a few years before that.
I agree. Would have liked to see Geno get the Conn but Crosby coming alive in the SC Finals and Geno's penalty minutes were probably the difference. Heard that Malkin was the 1st player since Gordie Howe to lead the playoffs in points and penalty minutes. He takes the occasional dumb penalty for sure, but I'll always dig his fire and passion. He lets it all hang out.
Ha, love me some Gonch. He helped make Malkin the Geno he is.
Yeah, broken ankle for Bones. Horny had broken fingers, Cole I think had a broken hand and ribs. Hagelin never seemed right, though he was flying yesterday (especially towards that empty net).
Cheers, PensGAF! It was a wild ride.
My mistake. It's why you'd never consider Hull/Oates or Roenick/Amonte, for example. Or these guys...
Sedin/Sedin
Lindros/Leclair
But then you have winners like...
St. Louis/Lecavalier
Mikita/Hull
Sakic/Forsberg
Kurri/Gretzky
Datsyuk/Zetterberg
Hockey is so awesome.
Those two were top tier. I think people forget just how insanely productive they were.
excelsiorlef
Member
It's nuts.
6 out of 8 D that played in these playoffs for the Pens were acquired by Rutherford.
excelsiorlef
Member
Also speaking of pairs umm Yzerman/Federov
But you still need the depth.
Penguins Stanley cup winning heroes since 09 are: Maxime Talbot, Kris Letang and Patric Hornqvist.
In 3 cup winning games Malkin and Crosby have combined for 3 assists.
But you still need the depth.
Penguins Stanley cup winning heroes since 09 are: Maxime Talbot, Kris Letang and Patric Hornqvist.
In 3 cup winning games Malkin and Crosby have combined for 3 assists.
Kariya and Selanne never won together. And they both went to Colorado for that reason to find their mythical super mega team.
Nor did they even make the finals in Anaheim together.
Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau never won together.
Eric Lindors and John LeClair couldn't pull it off in Philly.
Even poor Ray Bourque and Cam Neely couldn't win it for Boston (ok now I'm going D and forward. I know.
But even with Gretzky. His LA Kings had Luc Robitaille at his utter peak and no luck.
I agree that great duos (and you forgot Toews and Kane) are nothing to scoff at. I'm just saying that it isn't a guarantee in the NHL.
You're moving the goal posts. How could you compare any of those duos to Crosby/Malkin or the others that I listed? I wasn't picking Cup champions. I was naming the highest tier and sure enough they've all won (multiple) Cups.
I don't think you realize how exceptional having a one-two like Crosby/Malkin is, not to mention that they've played alongside each other for 11 seasons.
And no I didn't forget Toews/Kane. I excluded them because:
- Cup winners ✔
- duo ✔
- comparable to Crosby/Malkin (x)
For sure. You picked the creme of the crop for their generation. Not that I was picking slouches.
Do we add Stevens and Niedermayer to that list? I would argue they (along the Brodeur, but we can talk about hall of fame goalies for other teams too) were the constants for the New Jersey cup teams.
Do we add Stevens and Niedermayer to that list? I would argue they (along the Brodeur, but we can talk about hall of fame goalies for other teams too) were the constants for the New Jersey cup teams.
So you understand my argument a bit better, I started with Crosby/Malkin and asked myself who is on the same level. There are precious few.
Consider where they land among P/GP leaders all time and how they're doing it in an era with less scoring (balanced out, admittedly, by the fact that they're still in their prime and their pace will drop off eventually).
Malkin 14th all-time in PPG but not listed in the top 100 players of all-time. LOL.
And look at all those good Canadian boys in the top six.
Yeah. I think when I was thinking of the NBA my thinking was "well in the NBA you cannot win today unless you decide to construct a mega team". Whereas in the NHL you can create teams that do not have literally the top 3 players in the entire league and have a real chance at winning it all.
On a random note, in the 2015-2016 season I just had a feeling the Pens would take it because Crosby had just turned 28. (Stay with me) I remember that five-year period in my late twenties and early thirties as being the sweet spot for mental sharpness and just overall awareness of what I was able to do, physically and mentally. Knowing that Crosby and Malkin were both in that sweet spot, I had a really good feeling about them leading the Pens to victory.
Hope they go for a threepeat and cement their legacy even more. Hell, go for five straight if they can.
Hope they go for a threepeat and cement their legacy even more. Hell, go for five straight if they can.
You can win a Cup on the backs of Mike Richards and Dustin Brown these days. Strange times.
Yeah. Like the Kings, though Quick was the best goalie around at times. Preds were arguably the better team overall in that series, despite not having elite players.
Matthews, Marner and Nylander are basically Crosby, Gretzky, Lemieux. 8 Cups in 10 years.
They didn't stop at the commissioner. They booed the entire team during the whole ceremony. Like Nashville fans stayed in the arena just so they could boo players while they were celebrating. Is it tradition or just a complete lack of sportmanship ?
Salt is salt. Comes in different ways. I wouldn't think too much about it really. There was no riot so all is well lol.
Hey now, we actually applauded a handful of Bruins players when they raised the cup... like Lucic for obvious reasons!
a lot of them were obviously booed and some just -shrug-
But yeah, i wouldn't think about it. Very engaged fanbase being upset their team didn't win the cup, news at 11.
Lee Chaolan
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Yay Penguins!
My first post helped
My first post helped
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Oh that reminds me:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238494252&postcount=683
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2010 - Philly scores first. Loses series
2011 - Vancouver scores first. Loses series
2012 - LA scores first. Wins series
2013 - (racist) Boston scores first. Loses series
2014 - Rangers score first. Lose series
2015 - Tampa scores first. Loses series
2016 - Pittsburgh scores first. Wins series
So in the last 7 series the team who scored first in the finals lost 5 of those series. "
2017 - Pittsburgh scores first. Wins series.
So in the last 8 SCF series the team that scored first (in game 1) won 3 of those now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238494252&postcount=683
"
2010 - Philly scores first. Loses series
2011 - Vancouver scores first. Loses series
2012 - LA scores first. Wins series
2013 - (racist) Boston scores first. Loses series
2014 - Rangers score first. Lose series
2015 - Tampa scores first. Loses series
2016 - Pittsburgh scores first. Wins series
So in the last 7 series the team who scored first in the finals lost 5 of those series. "
2017 - Pittsburgh scores first. Wins series.
So in the last 8 SCF series the team that scored first (in game 1) won 3 of those now.
excelsiorlef
Member
Someone threw something at Hornqvist when he was doing his skate with the cup
And Malkin whose face was cut up a bit apparently got hit with something.
The Nashville crowd were abnormally classless
Sef! Good to see you. Thanks, man. You're the OG NHL-GAF Preds fan.
If that's all true then yeah they were being extra douchey. I know they felt a sense of entitlement because of the way the Pens won but what can you do
Damn that's fucked up. I feel like the team should be hit with a fine or something (don't know how it works in the NHL).
https://mobile.twitter.com/penguins/status/874271864746586112
Malkin's nose is a little messed up here, but I'm sure he doesn't mind.
Malkin's nose is a little messed up here, but I'm sure he doesn't mind.
Fate_Shirou
Member
what you doing excelsiorlef lol
penguins just won the cup!!!!!
time to party!!!!!!!
im going to dinner with friends and family <3
penguins just won the cup!!!!!
time to party!!!!!!!
im going to dinner with friends and family <3
Did this post get caught in a timeloop for 20h?
Fate_Shirou
Member
going to party all off-season, its not everyday you see a team go back to back
come to ottawa, i will treat you to some burgers and poutine <3 <3
Dopeys powers are limitless
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
That's just a brain taken over by anime.
Good going Penguins. Back 2 Back is pretty amazing. Onto 3!
My only Pens gear is a Malkin Tshirt from 2007 or so. There's still silly string caked into the numbers on the back from when we won in '09. So I'm looking to get a cool Back 2 Back shirt but all the designs are kinda lame on the NHL webstore.
Can't wait to see some in-depth analysis on what will come with this offseason regarding UFA players, Golden Knights and Fleury potentially opening up nearly $6 million in cap space. Feels like it could be the same situation from the 91/92 Back 2 Back where the 3rd team could be the most talented, especially with Letang back.
My only Pens gear is a Malkin Tshirt from 2007 or so. There's still silly string caked into the numbers on the back from when we won in '09. So I'm looking to get a cool Back 2 Back shirt but all the designs are kinda lame on the NHL webstore.
Can't wait to see some in-depth analysis on what will come with this offseason regarding UFA players, Golden Knights and Fleury potentially opening up nearly $6 million in cap space. Feels like it could be the same situation from the 91/92 Back 2 Back where the 3rd team could be the most talented, especially with Letang back.
Hippopuncher12
Member
the Columbus dude lol
The Catfish and BJ guy are great lol!
Word is the city of Nashville is wanting to plan some kind of downtown parade for the Preds and a lot of the fans are vocally trying to talk them out of it. You don't get a parade for 2nd place. If anything I think they should have some kind of celebration at the start of the season to celebrate the first Western Conference championship, but no fucking parade unless they want to be the laughingstock of the NHL. This is an obvious ploy by the city to try and get masses of people downtown and squeeze the last nickel out of this thing before it goes away. I say let the guys go and don't try to hold them into next week for something like this. Many of them I'm sure want to get back to their home countries to be with family and friends and rest up for what's going to be the shortest off-season almost all of them have ever had.
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, that would be honestly be kind of embarrassing. City needs to know when to quit.
blazenumb1
Member
Going to the parade tomorrow, will try to post some pics, went last yr and it was awesome.
Always look for new great places to eat though, anyone front Pittsburg gaf have anywhere they would recommend. I always end up going to primantis or something along those lines so looking for places local to the burgh.
I live about 4 hours away so don't get there as often as I would like.
Always look for new great places to eat though, anyone front Pittsburg gaf have anywhere they would recommend. I always end up going to primantis or something along those lines so looking for places local to the burgh.
I live about 4 hours away so don't get there as often as I would like.
What parade is going on in Pittsburg, California tomorrow? Not familiar with that city.
But if you decide to visit Pittsburgh, PA. I can recommend a ton of places.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
depends on what you want
Wingharts has the best burgers Ive ever eaten in my life, so thats my quickest recommendation.
blazenumb1
Member
Lol yea, Pittsburgh, PA, typo on my part.
I can really eat anywhere, burgers sound go though lol.
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