We're talking about holiday season 2013, right? If so, I'm not worried. If you're talking about this month, what are you on?
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Nintendo Direct 2012.12.5 - Dec. 5th, 6AM EST (JP), 12 PM EST (NA), 5PM GMT
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We're talking about holiday season 2013, right? If so, I'm not worried. If you're talking about this month, what are you on?
Twilight Princess
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Wind waker wasn't finished.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't think Nintendo has much value in artificially delaying something like Pikmin, not with Miyamoto producing the project. The guy is notorious for delaying shit because of whatever mood he's in. I fully believe the reason it's taking so long to come out is because if that man, and Nintendo's policy with game design. I'm pretty sure he's also overseeing Luigi's Mansion 2, and look how many times that's been delayed.
The Wonderful 101 similarly. Nintendo is probably giving Platinum a fair bit of rope, and if they don't feel it's ready, it won't be.
The big surprise to me isn't so much that stuff like Pikmin 3 and TW101 get delayed, it's that Nintendo didn't seem to plan out their first six months very well. Or deliberately kept the launch window fairly empty for whatever reason. I expected something a little more significant than "decent mini-game compilation" and "side scrolling Mario", but there you go.
If there's no blow out at E3 2013 then alarm bells will really sound loud. Nintendo's biggest issue with middling support from third parties is that they simply do not have the financial nor manpower resources to sufficiently support two separate platforms with a lot of software. Like I noted on my list there's a vast, vast majority of Nintendo's internal studios unaccounted for on both the 3DS and Wii U fronts. They're obviously working on something, but what that something is remains totally unknown. E3 2013 or whatever is the opportune and ideal moment for those studios to show what they're working on. If we don't get much out of E3 2013, I'll have no reason not to believe that Nintendo's internal studios are struggling with software and the pressure of supporting two separate hardware units.
My main point is goddamn I wanted The Wonderful 101 sooner rather than later
.Mihael Mello Keehl
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They are 2 different services though.
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's almost like I made room for those exceptions in my post repeatedly and then talked about that period of time.
20:24 Rayman Legends now. 2D platformer by Ubisoft, published by Nintendo in Japan, playable by newcomers who've played Mario or Donkey Kong.
20:26 ZombiU now. Get bitten by a zombie and come back as a different character. Multiplayer. GamePad player survivor fights against zombie players. 12/8, 6980 yen.
20:27 CODBLOPS2 now. Internet multiplayer, zombie mode. Square-Enix publishing. 12/20, 7980 yen.
20:28 DQX trailer now. DQX, not to be outdone, also apparently also has giant enemy crabs.
20:30 DQX, Spring 2013.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I am willing to give W101 all the time it needs, because that is a Kamiya game. Kamiya should work on it until he feels it is everything he wants it to be.I don't think Nintendo has much value in artificially delaying something like Pikmin, not with Miyamoto producing the project. The guy is notorious for delaying shit because of whatever mood he's in. I fully believe the reason it's taking so long to come out is because if that man, and Nintendo's policy with game design. I'm pretty sure he's also overseeing Luigi's Mansion 2, and look how many times that's been delayed.
The Wonderful 101 similarly. Nintendo is probably giving Platinum a fair bit of rope, and if they don't feel it's ready, it won't be.
The big surprise to me isn't so much that stuff like Pikmin 3 and TW101 get delayed, it's that Nintendo didn't seem to plan out their first six months very well. Or deliberately kept the launch window fairly empty for whatever reason. I expected something a little more significant than "decent mini-game compilation" and "side scrolling Mario", but there you go.
If there's no blow out at E3 2013 then alarm bells will really sound loud. Nintendo's biggest issue with middling support from third parties is that they simply do not have the financial nor manpower resources to sufficiently support two separate platforms with a lot of software. Like I noted on my list there's a vast, vast majority of Nintendo's internal studios unaccounted for on both the 3DS and Wii U fronts. They're obviously working on something, but what that something is remains totally unknown. E3 2013 or whatever is the opportune and ideal moment for those studios to show what they're working on. If we don't get much out of E3 2013, I'll have no reason to believe that Nintendo's internal studios are struggling with software and the pressure of supporting two separate hardware units.
My main point is goddamn I wanted The Wonderful 101 sooner rather than later
There are very few developers I feel deserve that kind of deference, but Kamiya is one of them.
Twilight Princess
Member
I know, but my feelings are still hurt from playing the 2nd half of that game. So much potential.
ratcliffja
Member
I think Wonderful 101 is going through some pretty significant development changes. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear anything about it until after E3.
Yes, holiday 2013. I meant next holiday season, not this one which we're already into.
This words make me think they'll try to advertise Rayman in a good way in Japan. It's going to be interesting.
My god, Wii Fit U is accessory hell with the Gamepad, Wiimote, Nunchuk, Balance Board, and Pedometer.
And Game and Wario looks fun for a $10-$20 eShop title.... so I'll save my outrage when the inevitable $40-$60 price tag is slapped on it.
Strangely intrigued by Tokyo Crash Mobs.
And Game and Wario looks fun for a $10-$20 eShop title.... so I'll save my outrage when the inevitable $40-$60 price tag is slapped on it.
Strangely intrigued by Tokyo Crash Mobs.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
That's what I mean, and I suspect Kamiya shares a similar mindset to a lot of senior Nintendo staff, wherein if they're given the flexibility a game will be delayed and changed as necessary to meet the standard of quality envisioned by head staff.
And that's great for the quality of the project. Not so great when you're waiting for something to play.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
We are talking about the American Direct. They didnt mention any of those games.
For me, the next few WiiU months don't look that bad.
I want to get another WiiU game by years end (maybe AC3 or ZombiU)
maybe Lego City, most likely in January
Rayman Legends in February
Monster Hunter in March
+other downloadables and scraps
Not too bad, but it could be a lot better. At least my wallet will be happy
I want to get another WiiU game by years end (maybe AC3 or ZombiU)
maybe Lego City, most likely in January
Rayman Legends in February
Monster Hunter in March
+other downloadables and scraps
Not too bad, but it could be a lot better. At least my wallet will be happy
Okay, so that was NCL Nintendo Direct. My apologies. I was referring to the NOA Nintendo Direct.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Is this something you've heard? If so, can you elaborate?
As a side, I'm recommending ZombiU over AC3, because I think it's pretty fantastic and it's good to support original titles.
Even still, Monster Hunter 3 is coming to North America in March as well. I dunno... just think they could've included that.
Hm, no need to be upset I think. There was a good share of 3rd party games right at launch and some more coming. Sure, many of them are ports, but they're still good games. BTW is Europe getting Ninja Gaiden? One part of the NOE video was blocked for German viewers and I didn't see any NG. That game interests me.
ratcliffja
Member
Oh no, it's just speculation on my part. It seemed fairly rough at E3 and hasn't really been heard from since then. Its similarities to Pikmin would make it a bad candidate to release around the same time, while the fact that we haven't heard anything about it means it's unlikely to release in the first quarter of next year. I would venture to say it's a candidate for late 2013 or even early 2014.
frankie_baby
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ninja gaiden is coming in january
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I thought TVii was a NOA initiative. Yet it is coming out in Japan in two days, with nothing in the US
What I do think is odd, is that Nintendo did a December Nintendo Direct. Usually, they'll do a big conference around the end of January or so that will detail all games coming out for the 1st half of the year up to E3. Considering there are QUITE a few games that we were not touched on at all that we know are coming, such as:
Monster Hunter
Bayonetta 2
Wonderful 101
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Injustice
Need For Speed
Rayman: Legends
Sniper 2
Two Brothers
Cloudberry Kingdom
etc etc
I have a feeling that we're either going to have another Nintendo Direct next month, or an actual press conference to outline 1st half of 2013 release schedule and strategy. That's just too many games that haven't been fully detailed yet.
Monster Hunter
Bayonetta 2
Wonderful 101
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Injustice
Need For Speed
Rayman: Legends
Sniper 2
Two Brothers
Cloudberry Kingdom
etc etc
I have a feeling that we're either going to have another Nintendo Direct next month, or an actual press conference to outline 1st half of 2013 release schedule and strategy. That's just too many games that haven't been fully detailed yet.
Absolutely agree. Same with Miyamoto and Pikmin 3, if it really needs the extra time to be perfect.
So it would be nice if there were some other games coming out between now and (post)E3 to fill the time...
that's where other consoles come into play, sadly :/ it's been like this for generations, nintendo home consoles are always guaranteed to have huge dry spells, I don't understand why nintendo doesn't address this...
If ever there was a time to have a fully fleshed out demo section on the eshop
So this ND ending up being what I expected. I don't understand why anyone really expected more. Nintendo has been keeping things so close to their chest for the last few years that it is even hard to tell if they are supporting their own hardware. Trying to figure out third party support or get a full list of upcoming games is fucking impossible.
It is easy for me to think that don't have anything first party wise. Maybe the transition from Wii to 3DS to Wii U was not smooth for development teams and they are way being in getting stuff out. That's not what I think is going on, but their silence makes me wonder. I'm not even going to guess what is going on for third party support. I mean even all the launch games were not announced right away and there was no real point in holding those back.
Lucky for me I have enough to enjoy with new Wii U/3DS software and a small backlog of other games.
It is easy for me to think that don't have anything first party wise. Maybe the transition from Wii to 3DS to Wii U was not smooth for development teams and they are way being in getting stuff out. That's not what I think is going on, but their silence makes me wonder. I'm not even going to guess what is going on for third party support. I mean even all the launch games were not announced right away and there was no real point in holding those back.
Lucky for me I have enough to enjoy with new Wii U/3DS software and a small backlog of other games.
This would make sense, if Nintendo hadn't just announced a bunch titles that are already slipping into Q2. If you're planning a big Q1-Q2 blow-out, why do the December one? Do they feel compelled to crap something out because Japan's doing a launch Nintendo Direct? If so, why?
It's fair to say I'm not to happy with NOA or NCL right now.
Hero of Legend
Member
I'm kinda sick of ND myself, so little new game announcements in them.
Let's just go back to having E3 and the Fall Conference for the big unload, at least we know when we would be getting lots of new stuff.
Let's just go back to having E3 and the Fall Conference for the big unload, at least we know when we would be getting lots of new stuff.
Lord_Byron28
Member
The problem is while they are being close to their chest, I don't think there have been any major software announcements since e3 2010. Their output on 3DS has been almost entirely from titles they announced in 2010. A lot of studios have been silent for a long time and we have no idea when to expect titles from EAD Tokyo, retro, Hal labs, etc. On the Wii u.
gamergirly
Member
1. e3 2011: here's this thing that's a new controller and a bunch of trailers for the new controller
2. e3 2012: here's that thing again and mario and pikmin and thirty minutes of nintendoland, and maybe two other launch titles
3. no, no- let's keep black ops ii a secret. it'll be a surprise
4. pikmin 3 has been delayed to q1 2013
5. pikmin 3 has been delayed to q2 2013
6. pikmin 3 has been crushed into a cube
7. you have thirty minutes to move your cube
Freezie KO
Banned
Game... cube?
MidnightScott
Banned
Yay I was just asking about HarmoKnight the other day. Thank you for listening Nintendo Gods
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Talked to some guys at IGN about this today. Their impression seemed to be that we never should have expected much out of this conference, as it was really geared towards the Japanese launch, and the NOA and NOE events were merely so that those regions didn't get left out. They seemed to think that we would get some more substantial announcements when Nintendo TVii launches, although there are no certainties in this area.
Yeah, that's the problem with how they are doing things now. I don't expect it to change though. We might not hear about anything else major till March. It is almost like they are doing the Wii U how the they did the 3DS only with less future announcements and Mario and the eshop added day 1.
If that is the case would have been better to leave the other regions out of it.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
GRAAHHAGGHHHGBBGGGHH!!!! WHERE IS NINTENDO TVii!!??
Seriously, Nintendo. Don't screw me over. This is the biggest reason I bought the Wii U.
Seriously, Nintendo. Don't screw me over. This is the biggest reason I bought the Wii U.
TheDrowningMan
Member
I hope they've been working on making third parties see it as a viable port box. I wouldn't expect them to announce stuff like that today, so we'll see how the coming months go. 360 (and PS3) was a wasteland for much of its first year, but the important thing is that once it got moving, it kept up the pace. That's something Nintendo have struggled with since the SNES, but we'll see.
If there are big announcements post-launch, they'll come at E3. Otherwise, courtesy of publisher press releases.
If there are big announcements post-launch, they'll come at E3. Otherwise, courtesy of publisher press releases.
Aquamarine
Member
Then you get backlash. At least they announced SOMETHING (Harmoknight US + EU release, Fire Emblem 3DS release date).
SolarPowered
Member
8. Throw Pikmin at the cube to break inside. Do you know what's inside the cube? *laughs*
LiveFromKyoto
Member
I don't know why playing as Kasumi makes me want to get NG3, but it does.
Pikimin looks great.
I'm also genuinely interested in Wii Fit U, I hope it delivers there's a lot more competition this time around from Nike, EA, Ubi, etc.
Pikimin looks great.
I'm also genuinely interested in Wii Fit U, I hope it delivers there's a lot more competition this time around from Nike, EA, Ubi, etc.
Hindsight is 20/20 here, but I definitely think not expanding during the Wii/DS boom will end up a huge mistake.
No doubt would have been a very costly undertaking, but they're sitting on a mountain of cash and an extremely favorable asset:liabilities ratio. Easily in a position to expand, but they seem to have chosen to save it for a rainy day...
It just seems to me that they've must've done a really poor job back then identifying risks facing their business.
actually, nintendo has been, and is expanding. notably, some studios in ead and monolithsoft. and retro as well, although that may just be for one game.
Then you get backlash? They have backlash now! I think after everyone saw that the NCL ND was about Japanese launch stuff, people would have understood that Europe and America wouldn't get one.
As it was, you had people saying, oh, NCL's just covering this stuff because the Wii U hasn't launched yet there - this one's not for us. Wait till they show NOA a special post-launch ND - that's where they'll be dropping the bombs!
Dacvak
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It really, really worries me that they didn't touch on Nintendo TVii at all. I mean, it straight-up states that it'll be available in December, and they've never said otherwise, right?
I think it'd be a terrible move for them to delay the service past December, especially after setting that date in the application, itself. And preferably, I'd like to see it before December 31st.
We'll see, I guess.
I think it'd be a terrible move for them to delay the service past December, especially after setting that date in the application, itself. And preferably, I'd like to see it before December 31st.
We'll see, I guess.
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Also when is my deluxe digital program starting?
I know, but I'm not sure the end result will be large enough to significantly boost output. Especially given the fact that the Wii U is a significant leap in tech and will require some expansion just to maintain the current level. If the expansion had been sufficiently large and happened during the boom years we could have already been seeing the results now.
In any case, I have to wait for e3 before truly saying stuff like this.