To be fair. In my experience even comparing WiFi performance Nintendo consoles have felt a step behindThere’s going to be lag just because most Switch users are on WiFi since the dock doesn’t have Ethernet (and I imagine few bother with the adapter) and a lot of people play portably anyway.
To be fair, 24 Xbox One and 24 Xbox 360 games per year is a lot better than 20 NES games.Well, $20 for a year is a lot better than $25 for 3 months.
Based on what I've seen, Nintendo's "big thing" is that you can play the old NES games (to be included with the monthly/yearly service I believe) online with other players. Not saying that justifies the cost, but they're definitely banking on that feature being sought-after enough.To be fair, 24 Xbox One and 24 Xbox 360 games per year is a lot better than 20 NES games.
Don't you have to use a smartphone app to do voice chat on the Switch too? Will that change when this paid subscription comes out? I'm surprised that Nintendo have the balls to charge for this to be honest. They want to get into the paid online game, but with a service that's not even up to scratch with the original Xbox.
To be fair. In my experience even comparing WiFi performance Nintendo consoles have felt a step behind
As much of a low budget copy that it was, at least PlayStation All stars was playable online for me.
yes but switch is a mobile console, which people can take it to places with crap internet, like Starbucks, or if they are on a road trip and take it to some hotel with free crappy wifi, it doesn't matter if you haven't experienced it doesn't mean theres not going to be any lag. If they want people to play online games like Dark souls remaster, or even overwatch, you shouldn't have a mobile console with WiFi.To be fair. In my experience even comparing WiFi performance Nintendo consoles have felt a step behind
As much of a low budget copy that it was, at least PlayStation All stars was playable online for me.
I'd take no money anyday than ''miniscule'' amount of money.
Does anyone else think the launch is going to be a failure? They still haven't announced a precise date, they must be struggling to get it working.
As others have stated, giving free ancient NES games is almost insulting. Whatever you think of the monthly games on PS Plus and Xbox Live, at least they're current generation titles.
Dark souls remaster also keeps getting pushed back on switch, cause they can't fix the lag
Yeah, you don't own those games, so to a lot of people, those "free" games are worthless. I just want to be able to play online, if I'm paying for online. $20 for a year is very manageable. The NES games will have online play added, and more games are getting online features like Mario Party. Nintendo charged $5 a year for PokeBank and all it did was store your Pokemon and let you transfer them between games, I think. I imagine they'll include that with this online service for Pokemon Switch.To be fair, 24 Xbox One and 24 Xbox 360 games per year is a lot better than 20 NES games.
Don't you have to use a smartphone app to do voice chat on the Switch too? Will that change when this paid subscription comes out? I'm surprised that Nintendo have the balls to charge for this to be honest. They want to get into the paid online game, but with a service that's not even up to scratch with the original Xbox.
You own the 360 games, but not the Xbox One games.Yeah, you don't own those games, so to a lot of people, those "free" games are worthless.
Boo fucking hoo, cry me a river. If you don't want paid multiplayer, then put your money where your mouth is and don't buy it. Sony and Nintendo fans could have prevented both of those companies from enacting paid multiplayer by, you know, not fucking buying it but apparently principles only take you so far.
You can stay mad all you want, but dark souls remastered on switch has been playable at every single gaming event. The only thing holding it back is online play. If Switch can't handle a game thats like been out since ps3 and xbox. Good luck for them trying to get games like overwatch, they need better online gaming.Right, I hope you have sources to back up this claim.
This is the third consecutive generation where Nintendo has not offered permanent, account-based ownership of their retro titles.
Not interested in their online offerings when they can't even get their digital storefront right.
I still love their games, mind you. I'm just hesitant to pay for any of Nintendo's digital offerings and that includes their online fee.
I could be wrong regarding Microsoft (I don't buy their online stuff) but I still have PSN titles from a decade ago, and I can still transfer PS1 games across Vita, PSP, and PS3. I'd still like even more open licensing, but Nintendo is too far behind the curve at this point. They need to leapfrog what Microsoft and Sony are doing if they want to have a competitive edge, in my opinion.I mean, outside of PC, does anyone?
At least accounts are normal accounts now and not bound to your system.
this is invariably a poor argument. I've never paid for Gold, Microsoft couldn't give a shit
It's a shame paid multiplayer is a thing on consoles, for Nintendo especially. I don't think there's ever a justification for it, but Nintendo especially don't have the games out there to justify it. Dipping in and out to some Nintendo online games was great, it's killed that for a lot of people
Well, $20 for a year is a lot better than $25 for 3 months.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Party, Pokemon (Switch), Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Street Fighter 30th Anniversary, NES games, etc... (Sonic Team Racing, Fortnite, Mario Tennis Aces, ARMS, etc...)Well it's $20 a year for
>no parties
>No voice chat
>no share play
>Almost no games worth playing the paywall
>Friend codes
>No free games from this millennium with the subscription
It's not like they COULD ask for more money.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Party, Pokemon (Switch), Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Street Fighter 30th Anniversary, NES games, etc... (Sonic Team Racing, Fortnite, Mario Tennis Aces, ARMS, etc...)
There are way more online games here (that I would play) than on Xbox/PlayStation, especially at the advent of their service. The only game I'd play online on Xbox is Halo:MCC. I stopped paying for it long ago on 360, because the price was ridiculous when all I wanted to play was one game, Halo 3.
Can you elaborate? Is there something wrong with their servers currently?How are you playing Fortnite, Splatoon as well as Mario Kart online right now?
The only thing holding it back is online play.
Can you elaborate? Is there something wrong with their servers currently?
PlayStation 3 was free. I wish Xbox Live was free. The servers do cost money to run. Some of my favorite games had their online servers shut down. Mario Kart Wii & DS, Metal Gear Online 2. Maybe they'll last longer with this fee. They also seem to focus more on online features/games because of this. People have wanted online-play in Mario Party for a long time.That's my point, you are playing them right now for free. What is going to be so different that you have to be paying $20 to play those exact same games that you are currently playing for free right now? Considering all those bullet points you quoted are not included with that fee, which would enhance those games and give more reason as to why you are all sudden charged for something you were just playing for free all these months.
PlayStation 3 was free. I wish Xbox Live was free. The servers do cost money to run. Some of my favorite games had their online servers shut down. Mario Kart Wii & DS, Metal Gear Online 2. Maybe they'll last longer with this fee. They also seem to focus more on online features/games because of this. People have wanted online-play in Mario Party for a long time.
oh look other angry xbox fan, I don't have to prove anything to anyone, least of all you. Welcome to ignore list. Theres no other reason why dark souls remastered is being delayed if its already playable.So no sources then, it's just you talking out of your ass again? Who would have thought.
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Yeah, I don't use any of those PS4 features. Not happy with them "masking" it. Remote-Play should be free if it's not. Everyone has Discord on their phone now, so Party Chat is unnecessary.They were free on the entire life span of the consoles they were on, then they improved significantly with resources such as party chat, Remote Play, SharePlay, etc., etc..
I would have the same criticisms if they decided to put up a wall during the generation they started off free, especially since the pay wall doesn't offer any significant upgrades over what you have right now.
Personally I still think online multiplayer should be for free and not behind a paywall no matter the console, but at least there is effort from the other 2 to mask it with some attractive features compared to Nintendo.
Hell, they're even Trojan horsing it with backup saves with no other free alternative.
That's my point, you are playing them right now for free. What is going to be so different that you have to be paying $20 to play those exact same games that you are currently playing for free right now? Considering all those bullet points you quoted are not included with that fee, which would enhance those games and give more reason as to why you are all sudden charged for.
But as it stands, it seems to just be a flick of a switch paywall without additional benefits to those games you are enjoying now for free.
Yeah, I don't use any of those PS4 features. Not happy with them "masking" it. Remote-Play should be free if it's not. Everyone has Discord on their phone now, so Party Chat is unnecessary.
but I just wanted to show how ignorant some people are on these forums.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/04/24/dark-souls-remastered-switch-network-test-delayed
oh look other angry xbox fan,
I've watched paladins also for Switch, it does have lag spikes sometimes, Nintendo should charge for network though, that way they can get a better network.IDK, I've tried Fortnite on Switch, and was not impressed with the performance. Certainly not as good as it was on XB1. Maybe $20 per year per subscriber is what they'll actually spend to shore up their servers.
hahahahahaI hope they add Snes, N64 and GC-titles to that service. A couple of half assed Nes-games won't do the trick.
yes but switch is a mobile console, which people can take it to places with crap internet, like Starbucks, or if they are on a road trip and take it to some hotel with free crappy wifi, it doesn't matter if you haven't experienced it doesn't mean theres not going to be any lag. If they want people to play online games like Dark souls remaster, or even overwatch, you shouldn't have a mobile console with WiFi.
Dark souls remaster also keeps getting pushed back on switch, cause they can't fix the lag.
Hyperbole alert! Online gaming is largely synonymous with multiplayer/matchmaking. With that in mind the xbox one has most of the games sony players have access to and more when you consider most online games are 3rd party. Battlefield, call of duty, destiny, rocket league, diablo, overwatch, grand theft auto, minecraft, fortnite, titanfall, the division, battlefront, doom, fifa sports games etc. I mean gee the xbox doesnt have anything. Oh wait the xbox has more exclusive multiplayer focused games than sony: Forza horizon, forza, halo, gears of war, splinter cell, killer instinct, sunset overdrive, cuphead, crackdown 3, sea of thieves. But do go on about which console has the least multiplayer games on it. Im humored.payed online for what ? there is barely any online games on the system, actually, there is barely any games on the system
what the hell are you smoking ?Hyperbole alert! Online gaming is largely synonymous with multiplayer/matchmaking. With that in mind the xbox one has most of the games sony players have access to and more when you consider most online games are 3rd party. Battlefield, call of duty, destiny, rocket league, diablo, overwatch, grand theft auto, minecraft, fortnite, titanfall, the division, battlefront, doom, fifa sports games etc. I mean gee the xbox doesnt have anything. Oh wait the xbox has more exclusive multiplayer focused games than sony: Forza horizon, forza, halo, gears of war, splinter cell, killer instinct, sunset overdrive, cuphead, crackdown 3, sea of thieves. But do go on about which console has the least multiplayer games on it. Im humored.
Do you pay Microsoft 10 dollars a month for your harrdive to work?Do you thank Microsoft every time you install a game to the hard drive in your console as well?
Do you pay Microsoft 10 dollars a month for your harrdive to work?
You can just use a Bluetooth headsetTo be fair, 24 Xbox One and 24 Xbox 360 games per year is a lot better than 20 NES games.
Don't you have to use a smartphone app to do voice chat on the Switch too? Will that change when this paid subscription comes out? I'm surprised that Nintendo have the balls to charge for this to be honest. They want to get into the paid online game, but with a service that's not even up to scratch with the original Xbox.