Just look at tablets, which aren't carrier subsidized.
The Amazon Kindle Fire is $199 with a capacitive screen.
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Nintendo: WiiU screen isnt multitouch due to cost- DS screen was/is sufficient enough
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Just look at tablets, which aren't carrier subsidized.
The Amazon Kindle Fire is $199 with a capacitive screen.
Good Job Bob
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Still laughing at the people who claimed this was a genius gameplay design move by Nintendo and not a budgetary concern. Lol
andthebeatgoeson
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I asked that question to point that out. On amazon, most good phones are 300-500, unsubsidized.
What kind of GPU does it have?
Well it was obvious it was always a cost consideration, if you want to be at least somewhat competitive on price you can't expect to have the optimal component choices for everything. Of course the impact on gameplay is significant, but you have to make sacrifices somewhere unless you want to go with the risky subsidized console model, and it's not like making the sacrifices elsewhere wouldn't have an impact.
JoshuaJSlone
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Original model did, not sure about Lite, but by DSi it was gone. Only homebew... like Colors! for DS, used it.
plagiarize
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the fire isn't sold at much profit either right, if at a profit?
and Nintendo may be looking to sell everyone an extra one of these.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
And how is gaming on that device? Can it even play 3D games?
PdotMichael
Banned
what's the price difference between a multitouch screen and a resistive touchscreen?
I liked the Samsung Note solution, you have the advantages of a multitouch screen and of a Wacom tablet.
I liked the Samsung Note solution, you have the advantages of a multitouch screen and of a Wacom tablet.
Kindle Fire is also pretty much all profit for Amazon after the initial sale. Sending you bits over the Internet is way cheaper than being in the packaged goods business like Nintendo is with this unit.
Don't underestimate the Amazon Prime warchest either. They're essentially getting the same sorts of subsidizing from a different source.
That wasn't my point. All I'm saying is that even the cheapest tablets on the market have a capacitive screen.
Portugeezer
Member
DS was crap with fingers. 3DS is a bit better with your finger. I expect Wii U to work fine with fingers.
RockmanWhore
Member
It sucks but they have a good reason. The controller is already going to be pretty expensive as it is.
If it was worth it they would have put it in.
It isnt worth it.
If this was the case we would have already seen something on mobile gaming that would be impossible on regular controllers. We havent.
But I guess your next point will be that mobile developers cant think of unique game ideas that only superior, super professional console developers can think of.
Chuckpebble
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Web browsing with an analog stick is actually pretty nice. I can read GAF mobile on my 3DS by scrolling it at a smooth steady pace, like movie credits. I'm sure zooming could easily be handled with touch interface buttons or the D-pad. I don't see any need for multi touch. That tech was born out of necessity for making a portable device to fit in your pocket with as much screen as possible. I don't think the WiiU pad is meant to be stuck in your pocket.
And then they sells WiiU for $350 on day one, without blinking.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Keep hearing conflicting things, but that their controller specifications don't talk about them any different than the other buttons I'm pessimistic.
I don't think the UPad handles information the same as the 3ds though. The speed would have to be similar to what you would see on the screen (That's one of the big things they've been advertising).
It's not multi-touch but it will be quick and geared toward single touch. It's not a case of shoehorning in something that should be destined for multi-touch. It's adapted to the type of screen it is.
I was thinking there is just a button for zoom so pinching to expand/contract is moot.
EDIT: Internet browsing seems to be a concern and it may be legitimate as I don't like browsing on any screen that small. I've adapted with my phone but it's not ideal. I'll probably just have my phone handy for when I am browsing or use the TV.
Significant?!? How many Vita games are better than DS or 3DS games thanks to multitouch? On iPad I can think of Fruit Ninja, which I love. But there are far more examples of DS games that are great thanks to the extra precision brought by its screen. Angry Birds use of the zoom is appreciable, but the game would add pinpoint accuracy with a stylus.
Haha. Nintendo has never made a mistake designing hardware. Never.
Hmm since it isnt debatable you should be able to easily find a bunch of E3 impressions where people complained that the wiiu gamepad didnt control as well as their cellphone or ipad.
Boss Doggie
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Mind you you wouldn't really have to pinch zoom when your hands are on the buttons. That's why when I suggest zoom buttons on the screen, they should be placed near your fingers. That way you wouldn't really need to lift your hands off. I don't get the "rotating the screen" though.
The conference says they're analog triggers.
The conference says they're analog triggers.
Um... you know that the WiiU touchscreen isn't the DS touchscreen, right?
They've definitely made mistakes pricing things past demand.
No, because it would create a third world where the controller would cost an illegal amount of money.
Shining Sunshine
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Here we go again.
Nintendo is making tools for developers, or else they would have multitouch in it.
Nintendo is making tools for developers, or else they would have multitouch in it.
Ken Masters
Banned
Nintendo taking every cost cutting measure possible to maximize profit day 1
Water is wet
If Nintendo had its way they'd use the same tech as the Wii with just the new Wii U pad, we should be grateful they're using 7 year old old tech
Water is wet
If Nintendo had its way they'd use the same tech as the Wii with just the new Wii U pad, we should be grateful they're using 7 year old old tech
EatinOlives
Member
Yep.
Nintendo's basically taking the stance that everyone else should advance technology. They'll just sit back, use outdated hardware to save them a buck, then spin some wild tales about what's "good enough" for the fans to eat up.
RoadHazard
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Don't know if it has already been mentioned, but typing on a virtual keyboard (which it seems like you'll be doing quite a bit of on the Upad), using both your hands, is a vastly superior experience on a multi-touch screen. You can type much faster when you don't need to make sure you lift your finger from the screen before typing the next character. On the Upad you're not gonna be able to type with the "flow" you can on a capacitive smartphone/tablet screen.
Sure, took me all of two seconds.
http://techland.time.com/2012/06/05/nintendo-wii-u-hands-on-e3/#ixzz1x2k4E2SR
maquiladora
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I wonder how many other non-multitouch devices there will be around when this is still for sale in 2017.
The problem could be that as smartphones and ipads get even more and more popular, people will be so used to multitouch that they won't understand why the Wii U doesn't have it too.
But I guess it will depend on how games implement the use of touch.
The problem could be that as smartphones and ipads get even more and more popular, people will be so used to multitouch that they won't understand why the Wii U doesn't have it too.
But I guess it will depend on how games implement the use of touch.
Yes I am aware of that.
Just checked what a 10" multitouch overlay would cost, and its $5 a piece.
Well, guess nintendo cant afford it :-/
I don't own 3DS so I don't know how much touch is improved from DS but DS touch was crap, so if Wii U doesn't have much improved touch screen over DS than it will be disappointment. Most Resistive touch are worse than Capacitive (not all) these days and I highly doubt they will have Wacom digitizer precision in their touch screen.
Well we also know because it is the same touchscreen technology we all have experience with he's full of shit.
Or an in game map, or a billion of other welcomed uses.
I wish Nintendo would be a little less cheap.
naw man you can just use the d-pad to select letters. Works great on the NES! no reason to change.
Always-honest
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I think thought hard about the question: do we really need it? Is it worth the price?
The answer is obvious.
JoshuaJSlone
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What conference?
Ken Masters
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So tech wise, it's just a large DS screen, wow.
exactly, there was never a conference
The best decision would have been a multi touch resistive screen
You can buy a cheap USB drive for peanuts.
not sure if it was mentioned in this thread already, but the ds/l/i/xxl/3ds screens doo actually support multitouch if a developer uses it. It may be not official supported, but it does work. there are even games that uses it, like hotel dusk for example where you have to activate 2 different switches at once - even if nintendo officially states that something like that wound't work.