Valkerionseven
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- Nintendont - | Yes, you CAN play GameCube games on your Wii U!
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Magnet_Man
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Why...why am I just finding out NOW that Bongos are working!?
I haven't played Jungle Beat in so long! Gonna be a good weekend.
I haven't played Jungle Beat in so long! Gonna be a good weekend.
FlammableD
Banned
Old post to bump, but has anyone else heard of this?
LouieGeetoo
Member
I've never used a WaveBird with Nintendont, but that behavior sounds like it could just be wireless interference. Have you tried a different channel on the WaveBird and receiver? I've also encountered behavior with the receiver where you need to unplug and replug it into the system a few times to get it to pick up the controller's signal.
Best Nintendo Fan Ever
Banned
So why exactly doesn't Nintendo do this through the eShop?
Emperor Bohe
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Widescreen forcing is even better now, perfect in Smash Bros Melee and Twilight Princess:
It's also fantastic in Timesplitters 2...but unfortunately brings random crashes along with it in that game due to the increased rendering space. ah well.
Is there a way to run a widescreen patch with a physical disc copy?
FlammableD
Banned
Cheers, I'll give it a shot.
On a Wii U? You can't play Cube games off the disc with Wii U.
Emperor Bohe
Member
lmao how did i forget about that
diddykong13
Member
I came in here to ask exactly that question "will cube disks work with this on Wii U"... I was pretty sure i knew the answer but wanted to make sure
Thanks!the tweaks might be too much for their engineers.
also, several games require analog shoulder buttons, making them not work properly with the default wii u controller.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
I got my Wii U like 2 weeks ago but only today I finally found time to set everything up. It all worked like a charm, but then started playing Sin & Punishment 2 on Wii mode and the screen would sometimes go dark and back to normal at random intervals.
I am praying so hard that this is a HDMI or a TV problem. I would die if I got a bad Wii U and the first thing I did with it was voiding the warranty.
EDIT: actually someone uploaded a video documenting my same problem, any advice GAF?
I am praying so hard that this is a HDMI or a TV problem. I would die if I got a bad Wii U and the first thing I did with it was voiding the warranty.
EDIT: actually someone uploaded a video documenting my same problem, any advice GAF?
Why don't you try it on another tv and using a different HDMI cable?I got my Wii U like 2 weeks ago but only today I finally found time to set everything up. It all worked like a charm, but then started playing Sin & Punishment 2 on Wii mode and the screen would sometimes go dark and back to normal at random intervals.
I am praying so hard that this is a HDMI or a TV problem. I would die if I got a bad Wii U and the first thing I did with it was voiding the warranty.
EDIT: actually someone uploaded a video documenting my same problem, any advice GAF?
I got my Wii U like 2 weeks ago but only today I finally found time to set everything up. It all worked like a charm, but then started playing Sin & Punishment 2 on Wii mode and the screen would sometimes go dark and back to normal at random intervals.
I am praying so hard that this is a HDMI or a TV problem. I would die if I got a bad Wii U and the first thing I did with it was voiding the warranty.
EDIT: actually someone uploaded a video documenting my same problem, any advice GAF?
That looks to me like the HDMI cord is too tightly wound up or routed at a sharp angle. It happens on all my devices where that is the case. Try readjusting your HDMI cable to whre it can stretch out more freely with no sharp turns.
32 or 64gb SD card. Works perfectly with no conflicts with the Wii U side unlike USB storage.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
I forgot to follow up on this. After much research, I came to the conclusion that the issue was the TV. One way to solve it is to switch the output to 1080i, it's not ideal but it works.
What kind of TV do you have? That doesn't sound like much of a solution... If your set is incapable of 1080p you should go 720p if possible.
Magnet_Man
Member
Doesn't do anything with Wii U side of the system. Everything involving the Wii U is completely irrelevant.
The Red Wizard
Member
I played it from start to finish a month or so ago with no problems. I have an i5 3570K at stock and ran it at 1080p with 2x the resolution.
Well I tried it and it ran fine but it crashed in the first cutscene, before you can save. Probably just my poor luck.
Sorta Maximus
Member
Is Nintendont still the best way to play Gamecube games on the Wii U? Are there any games that have issues or just don't work?
Yes.
Sorta Maximus
Member
It works amazingly well. Boogles my mind that Nintendo didn't do this themselves to make money. XBOX ONE had to program a miracle to gain BC, Nintendo has it all ready to go in hardware.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
If anyone else, like me, was wondering how to download saves and make them Nintendont-compatible, here's a really good guide.
the price Nintendo had to pay to have native BC wasn't worth it imo. the current gen games are held back because of this.
Magicman103
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finally got the Gamecube controller adapter ($16 used from gamestop. works like a charm). so happy.
is there any super secret website that has Nintendo official GC controllers on the cheap? need a couple more.
edit: these any good? all over eBay for dirt cheap (4pk/$25)
I haven't personally used those, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no. You get what you pay for.
I recommend the new smash bros official gamecube controllers.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9GW8VK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Lionel Richie
Member
I also bought a GC controller adapter, but I am using my old GC controller. It's still in very good shape, they are remarkably more durable than N64 ones.
It feels flat out AMAZING, I almost forgot how fucking incredible the GC controller is. It's videogame porn.
It feels flat out AMAZING, I almost forgot how fucking incredible the GC controller is. It's videogame porn.
Lupin the Third
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finally got the Gamecube controller adapter ($16 used from gamestop. works like a charm). so happy.
is there any super secret website that has Nintendo official GC controllers on the cheap? need a couple more.
edit: these any good? all over eBay for dirt cheap (4pk/$25)
We sell these at our shop. They usually work. They feel different and cheaper. Sticks don't roll around on the gate smoothly like on the stock. L/R buttons' digital click is usually really mushy and not distinct.
Nintendo brand is ideal. Grab a Smash controller or a WaveBird for the best.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Seriously. I'm using it as my main controller for PC games. Despite being somewhat annoying to get working with different games, it's just so good...
Definitely make sure you get new ones--I bought some used ones a while back, and thought they were good at the time... but compared to my new controllers, the worn-out joysticks don't feel as good.
I bought some smash brothers ones new on Amazon for ~$22 last week.
Lionel Richie
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I read that the MCEmu is not 100% stable and that maybe we should make backups of our saves regularly. But do we really need to? I'm kinda lazy to do that and I didn't find any registry of someone not using Multi (I'm using 1 MC per game) and having issues with the saves.
Did memory card corruption on Nintendont ever happened to anyone around here? Is this a thing?
Did memory card corruption on Nintendont ever happened to anyone around here? Is this a thing?
gingerbeardman
Member
Well Kururin Squash froze for me and I lost my 80% complete save game. Pretty gutted, until I remembered I had a backup at about 70%.
So my answer is, if you'd be distraught losing the save game then back it up.
I did it through Wii file manager that let me zip up my current save game. Next time I would delete the zip and zip the updated save game. Very easy.
finally got the Gamecube controller adapter ($16 used from gamestop. works like a charm). so happy.
is there any super secret website that has Nintendo official GC controllers on the cheap? need a couple more.
edit: these any good? all over eBay for dirt cheap (4pk/$25)
Those suck. I mean like... they REALLY suck. Go with first party for GCN stuff.
Lionel Richie
Member
Ouch, yeah, no I don't want that happening to me. I'll keep a back up, losing saves is quite possibly my biggest fear in gaming.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I know there's been a decent amount of discussion on SD cards over the last couple pages, so sorry for being redundant, but are there any specific factors I should be looking for in an SD card or all they all pretty much created equal? I already have an old 2GB non-SDHC card for specific functions relating to installing/reinstalling homebrew as needed. Right now I'm looking for something primarily for holding all of my Gamecube games at once (plus some other random Wii homebrew like Project M and NewerSMB).
What I'm looking for, from most important to least:
1) fast read speeds
2) high capacity
3) low failure rate
4) cost-effectiveness
Any product attributes or brands that I should be looking at? Or does it not really matter?
What I'm looking for, from most important to least:
1) fast read speeds
2) high capacity
3) low failure rate
4) cost-effectiveness
Any product attributes or brands that I should be looking at? Or does it not really matter?
just get one of these. Comes with an adapter.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J29FF4G/
That's the exact card I use. £17. Probably the same price in the US.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Doing some preliminary testing and it seems Nintendont has about 22ms of extra lag on Wii U compared to running games natively on the Gamecube. I need to go through the footage to get a more precise number, but it's definitely more than a frame.
Seems I can't box away the Cube for good after all.
Seems I can't box away the Cube for good after all.
What resolution are you running it on?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I tested both the Gamecube and the Wii U on the same display at the same resolution (480p component) with the same controller. The only enhancement I used on Nintendont was memory card emulation (all other extras = off), and I also had to plug the controller through the GCN USB adapter.
So the WiiU is also outputting via component? Guess that really rules out the display. I wonder if any adjustments can be made to Nintendon't to optimize the lag issue. For my uses, I don't mind lag unless I'm playing really time demanding games and I can't think of too many GC games I own that would fall in that category. Still it would be preferable to just not have the lag out of principal and for the people sensitive to it.
Edit: Just for science and giggles, have you timed WiiU via HDMI @ 480p? It would essentially be a straight digital pass through that way... Maybe DAC differences play a role? I can't imagine YUV2 was taken into account in the WiiU layout...
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I'll post details on the test once I finish up a few other things.
One thing worth noting; Nintendont has only 4ms lag on a Wii but about 21ms lag on a Wii U, using the same settings on both consoles (including the use of the Gamecube USB adapter on Wii instead of the actual Gamecube controller ports). That's a full frame difference between the two consoles. I'm not sure if that delay is something that's just inherent to vWii mode or if Nintendont functions differently between the two consoles.
Wow... I would've thought the GCN controller adapter caused more lag than 4ms. Impressive stuff.
How about just regular Wii mode on Wii U vs. an OG Wii? Is the same lag difference present?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The lag in the USB adapter is probably entirely dependent on the USB polling rate, and it probably even varies between Nintendont and other software. I remember reading tweets where, previously, Nintendont's polling rate on USB devices was 33ms (which means that the button press would lag anywhere between 0 to 33ms depending on which part of that interval you pressed the button, which would just be awful and feel incredibly inconsistent), but it was shortened to somewhere between 6ms to 10ms in a later update. My 4ms average reading for the adapter on Wii would peg the polling rate at about 8ms (4 is halfway between 0 and 8), so that checks out. Not perfect, but not something you'd notice, either.
(FYI: Dedicated controller ports, not USB, tend to have a sub-1ms polling rate.)
I'd like to check a regular Wii retail game on both Wii and Wii U (no homebrew) to see if there's an inherent difference in how the two consoles handle Wii games, but I'd have to hack up a classic controller to do it. Maybe later.