DriftingSpirit
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Meh, I wanted more shade like last year.
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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
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TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
What was it last year?
Oh I was just putting a descriptive footer onto the InfoScout data, I wasn't actually challenging what you said.
Have we heard anything on Battlefront performance yet? I'm still left on GameStop's underperformance metric and no word from EA/elsewhere to say the opposite. Or has this changed?
People that have price as top priority (the majority) bought Gears or Lego bundle, but some people that was looking for Fallout, Tomb Raider, Holiday or Kinect bundle probably waited BF.
Wow this is funny.
Wouldn't those shoppers wait for Black Friday regardless?
This seems like a very narrow slice of people that we know nothing about.
Heck, some of them probably thought the PS4 Star Wars Bundle is on sale if around a month ago they looked at it and saw it was originally gonna be $400.
Knockout punch. Ouch.
Never saw data that dismiss Infoscout report.
Last year they saw a huge lead for Xbox One and people questioned, then NPD came and the advantage was... huge.
I know that NPD is the full month and Infoscout is only BF, but still, considering how BF is big for november sounded that Infoscout was accurate.
XB1 sold great the entire month . The unity bundle was at 349 $ since November 2. There was a huge difference in value with the PS4 for all the month.
In case of PS4 they didn't had a reason to wait because Sony doesn't changed the price, so there's a clearly difference in this regard.
PS4 can have won BF, but for Xbox One sales are likely more concentrated in BF and more spread out between the models because all SKUs received price cut.
And so all the Bundle for PS4 have recived a price cut 50$ less for all bundle (the old one at 399 now at 349 except the Uncharted one that is at 299$ until Cyber Monday).
I just don't see what an across the board $50 price drop would of accomplished but match similarly priced PS4 bundles. I just don't think people are paying that much attention until the week of Black Friday.
mejin
Member
That's why this year we had PS4 selling better all month and probably took BF too = price within the same range as XB1.
I know, so probably sold more on black friday too and we know BF is a big part of november, but some people doubted of Infoscout.
We don't have any data for questioning Infoscout's reliability.
3rdamention
Member
Since their tracking comes from people taking images from receipts, I assume they aren't tracking online sales? Or can people screencap online purchases too?
Yep. I hope we'll get PR this week from Sony/MS and N.
Don't know if they tracks online sales, but they make surveys too.
Probably not, I think the last PR for Black Friday was in 2012 for all 3 hardware makers.
Probably wont hear anything until next week about the winner of BF.
anothertech
Member
[3DS] 550K
[PS4] 1990K
[WIU] 390K
[XB1] 990K
Based on latest reports
[PS4] 1990K
[WIU] 390K
[XB1] 990K
Based on latest reports
Usually I don't interfere in people's predictions, but if you want to do well probably is a good idea revise that. (Or maybe you know something that we don't)
Black Ops III isn't capable of beating previous records and I don't think Battlefront is doing so hot.
RespectThySole
Member
EA doesn't give out sales numbers and I highly doubt that the Battlefront numbers were as good as they were expecting.
30yearsofhurt
Member
I'm predicting star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars, star wars and then more star wars.
This reeks of desperation to me. Compared to his tweets last year, this feels pretty mild.
I think you guys are forgetting the deals MS ran throughout this month. The insane deal at the beginning with COD, at gamestop you got a free game of your choice and an extra controller other retailers were offering free game of choice + $50 giftcard, etc.
Then they also ran free game of your choice during Battlefront.
I'm not saying these make it win the month or anything, but they saw major spikes in system sales during these promotions.
Super_Cobra
Member
I can't stand him. He's one of the worse people working in the industry. Cocky as hell when it's going their way but quiet as hell when it's not. Oh the other guy I can't stand is major Nelson. Good god ms get rid of them and get some better people.
CosmicQueso
Member
So the last two years had about 2m combined PS4/Xone each year. I like the aggressive predictions of 2.5m or 3m+, but are they realistic?
In other news, I know it's unrelated for lots of reasons, but GTAV being on the top of the STEAM charts for the complete length of the sale so far at $35.99. I may have put GTAV too far down on my packaged predictions list.
In other news, I know it's unrelated for lots of reasons, but GTAV being on the top of the STEAM charts for the complete length of the sale so far at $35.99. I may have put GTAV too far down on my packaged predictions list.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Um, but they're PR goons. Isn't it their JOB to be cocky when sales are good and sparse they they aren't?
A spike bigger than PS4 with CoD and Battlefront bundles?
Yep there were good deals but you can't compare them with the Unity bundle at 349$ (when the other console was at 399 without games ,IIRC destiny bundle was at 449 and the GTA bundle was just for BF and went sold out pretty fast ).
The CoD week? Most likely based off what I experienced. The Star Wars week no it most likely didn't. I'm just pointing out that XB1 did sell in major spikes earlier this month too, it's not like they were dead all month or something.
Both are more cheap now. Maybe 3 million is to much, but 2.5m sounds possible
While true in the price difference, were talking about a $349 consoles w/ Gears + a free $60 game + a free $60 controller or $50 giftcard.
All I know is that weekend we sold most of our stock of XB1's. It moved units in crazy numbers.
That's news to me. I thought PS4 sold more in all november weeks until BF.
Of course there is a spike in sales in November. Every years there are big releases , price cut , deals , special bundle etc... ( and of course BF).
No one said XB1 was dead this month ( i think ).
But that's part of their job. They make PR statements for a living. Yes, they are cocky, but with a huge loyal fanbase to please, what else can they do? I agree that they should simmer down their ego, though. At the very least, they can be fun to watch.
Welfare
Member
I think the PS4+XB1 should do better this holiday than last. Both of them are at reasonable prices with big name franchises releasing, plus having some great deals during Black Friday, they should do more than the 2.06m done last year.
It's all anecdotal. I mean what data does anyone really have beyond Amazon?
We have no knowledge of this in the US as we don't get that data. My statement on that is just anecdotal as Y2Kev said, based off what I've seen sales wise in the district I work for.
No one said it, I was just pointing out because some people make it sound that way that XB1 sales were mainly all BF in November unlike PS4. In this entire month that I've been helping out sales have been very good for both for sure.
Funny he mentioned being #1 on the Amazon chart back then and now Sony has been #1 on Amazon since thanksgiving, and ahead of the XB1 all month long.
Are you gonna share retail info during December as well ?
As much as I can, but I'm only working a couple weeks in December. Real job is way too busy in December.
Kralamoonard
Member
Thanks for the insight "NDP-Mulcair". It's very much appreciated.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
[WIU] 445K
[XB1] 955K
[PS4] 1288K
I think people are forgetting that one of the reasons XBO sold so well last Nov/Dec was because it kinda more or less sold like shit for the rest of that year. MOM it's been doing quite better in 2015 so I think that'll knock out some of the impact they'd otherwise have in Nov/Dec.
[XB1] 955K
[PS4] 1288K
I think people are forgetting that one of the reasons XBO sold so well last Nov/Dec was because it kinda more or less sold like shit for the rest of that year. MOM it's been doing quite better in 2015 so I think that'll knock out some of the impact they'd otherwise have in Nov/Dec.