Massive_Edge
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would you guys say Snake Eyez is the GOAT western player of all time?
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Now that SF4 age is over, who was the best SF4 player?
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Primethius
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Daigo, Infil and then Xian.
In that order.
In that order.
The Main Event
Member
Daigo no doubt.
Luffy
miazakiplz
Member
Justin Wong would probably be up there too over the entire lifespan of the game.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Daigo. Many people wrote him off several times and yet he won a lot until the end.
he fathered all your favorite playersSakonoko was the greatest winner of them all. #Ibuki
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Daigo! 
Sakonoko was the greatest winner of them all. #Ibuki
Sad we dont see him anymore at tournaments, but a family man gotta family man
and Infiltration easily.
I wouldn't put Justin cuz he was good when there was "no competition" (Like Ricky). When more people started to attend EVO from overseas and people started to poop off in the states he's been pretty much washed up despite the fact he has managed to sneak in capcom cup.
Rice-Eater
Member
I'm not saying anything new, but again it's Daigo. He's been at or near the top for the entire duration of this series. Nobody else can make that claim or has been so dominant that they can overshadow his 6 years at the top.
Some will say Infiltration but he was only dominant for one year and didn't even win a stacked Premier event this year which Daigo accomplished twice. Guys like him or Xian belong up there with Daigo as well, but Daigo edges out them all considering his dominance and longevity.
Some will say Infiltration but he was only dominant for one year and didn't even win a stacked Premier event this year which Daigo accomplished twice. Guys like him or Xian belong up there with Daigo as well, but Daigo edges out them all considering his dominance and longevity.
NoctisVsStar
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Daigo
Xian
Infil
Xian
Infil
Boogalogist
Member
So many great players of this generation. It's amazing. Competition is super tight and there's hardly any dominance.
I'd say my top 3 in, no particular order, is Daigo, Infiltration and Xian.
I'd say my top 3 in, no particular order, is Daigo, Infiltration and Xian.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
0-2 at two consecutive Capcom Cups, hasn't been seen in an EVO top 8 for SF4 since its very first year on consoles, yet people still act like he's relevant.
Ragingnight
Member
if we are talking throughout SF4 lifespan then the answers are easy
1) Daigo
2) Tokido
from like 3-7 its momochi, fuudo, mago, bonchan and something like that
Infiltration is not on this list as he only came in the scene around 2012, while the rest have been easily top 8 in majority of tournament they attend since 2009.
For American players its Justin Wong easily. Nowadays everybody just remembers Wongs recent lack of wins. 2009-2012 Justin Wong was destroying in most American tournaments. Yeah Wolfrone had a year where he was untouchable but that was just one year.
Snakeyes rise came after 2012 (IIRC), and same with Smug.
For EU its easily Ryan Hart. Ryan Hart dominated SF4 european scene for so long since the game came out.
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I would also add dieminion and Pr Rog for American. I would argue Rog over Wong now that I think about it easily.
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If we're talking about current strength I would go
top 5 in no specific order
1) Daigo
2) Kaz
3) Momochi
4) Infiltration
5) Tokido
I want to add bonchan, but I think all the above names are more...consistent? Bonchan has had really bad luck when it comes to large international tournaments.
1) Daigo
2) Tokido
from like 3-7 its momochi, fuudo, mago, bonchan and something like that
Infiltration is not on this list as he only came in the scene around 2012, while the rest have been easily top 8 in majority of tournament they attend since 2009.
For American players its Justin Wong easily. Nowadays everybody just remembers Wongs recent lack of wins. 2009-2012 Justin Wong was destroying in most American tournaments. Yeah Wolfrone had a year where he was untouchable but that was just one year.
Snakeyes rise came after 2012 (IIRC), and same with Smug.
For EU its easily Ryan Hart. Ryan Hart dominated SF4 european scene for so long since the game came out.
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I would also add dieminion and Pr Rog for American. I would argue Rog over Wong now that I think about it easily.
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If we're talking about current strength I would go
top 5 in no specific order
1) Daigo
2) Kaz
3) Momochi
4) Infiltration
5) Tokido
I want to add bonchan, but I think all the above names are more...consistent? Bonchan has had really bad luck when it comes to large international tournaments.
aftercompletion
Banned
If EVO is the ultimate measuring stick, nobody comes close to Daigo, even Infiltration.
Daigo placed top-10 at 5 out of the 7 EVOs to feature SFIV.
Daigo placed top-10 at 5 out of the 7 EVOs to feature SFIV.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
sleazedroid
Banned
Daigo.
aftercompletion
Banned
Put it this way, Daigo has double the amount of championships that Infiltration has.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Ghandi
Was Daigo Umehara the most dominant player in e-sports history?
Infil didn't came out until 201 but he made top 3 at EVO 2010 and won many dreamhacks...
Ryan Hart could be 2nd, but since Rose came into SF, Luffy has been dominating the scene with him. Since 2013 (Yeah before Luffy's victory at EVO) that the french raised on top of everyone.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
From long-obsolete versions of the game that the players never truly mastered in the first place.
When judging the best of the game, I think you kind of have to take into account that the skill level at the tail end is considerably higher than it was at the start.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Damn, America can't win anything
miazakiplz
Member
Did you read the question I was replying to? Who's a better western player over the entire 7 years the game has been released? Luffy? That I can agree with. Who else? I can think of a few arguments but nobody really stands out as an obvious choice.
KidA Seven
Member
Daigo. I would have given it to Infiltration had he won this tournament. I felt like Daigo was arguably top 3 in every year of SF4. Maybe top 5 in 1 or two years. Nobody else had that.
Top 4 are Daigo, Infiltration, Xian and Momochi
Momochi has won an EVO and a Capcom Cup. So has Infiltration.
Xian has won EVO and has gotten top 3 at Capcom Cup 3 times.
Daigo has won EVO twice but no Capcom Cups. Got top 2 twice in it.
If someone help a gun to my head and asked me the best among these 4 I would probably choose Daigo for the entire span of SF4 across all versions.
Momochi has won an EVO and a Capcom Cup. So has Infiltration.
Xian has won EVO and has gotten top 3 at Capcom Cup 3 times.
Daigo has won EVO twice but no Capcom Cups. Got top 2 twice in it.
If someone help a gun to my head and asked me the best among these 4 I would probably choose Daigo for the entire span of SF4 across all versions.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
In America alone, I'd put Dieminion, PR Rog, and Snake Eyes over Justin. Maybe NuckleDu as well.
Don't really feel qualified to comment on Europe one way or another.
Gunslinger
Member
Daigo , momochi and infiltration. I hope sfv can be as hype and big as sfiv and bring in many new talents like sfiv did. And I hope we see some old faces return for one last go at SF like kuroda.
Sakonoko was the greatest winner of them all. #Ibuki
Sako gets to have Ibuki in SFV. HE WILL RETURN.
skLaFarebear
Member
Daigo
Infiltration
Xian
Momochi
in that order.
Infiltration
Xian
Momochi
in that order.
KZXcellent
Member
Emperor Bohe
Member
Yep, I think most of us can agree with this
Man this is hard, but I'm going to try to make a list.
1. Infiltration
2. Momochi
3. Daigo
4. Kazunoko
5. Xian
As much as I love Daigo, I've never seen a player be as purely dominant as Infiltration was when he was on his reign of terror. The guy was completely untouchable for a couple years, and is still very dangerous.
1. Infiltration
2. Momochi
3. Daigo
4. Kazunoko
5. Xian
As much as I love Daigo, I've never seen a player be as purely dominant as Infiltration was when he was on his reign of terror. The guy was completely untouchable for a couple years, and is still very dangerous.