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[reksveks]

Will do a summary later as I get to a pc.

 

[reksveks]

Credit to SoonyXboneUh on ibf

 

[adamsapple]

Xbox Series has generated the highest hardware dollars of any platform year-to-date, followed by PlayStation 5 and Nintendo Switch.

So that implies more Series X's have been sold this year than Series S's, cause it wouldn't have been the top dollar generator with the $299 console.

edit: Yes I realize this doesn't necessarily mean *more* SX have been sold, but it implies a healthy number have been sold to have generated a high dollar amount.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Looks like I have to get that LEGO game, it's absolutely beasting the charts. First month and it's already #6 on the 12 month chart.

Elden Ring outselling Call of Duty is also wild.

Very good hold for Kirby, #4 despite not including digital.

Console sales seem to be very close this month, PS5 #1 in revenue but #3 in units kinda implies close to parity.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

Elden Ring has outsold Call of Duty??

 

[SlimySnake]

Elden Ring has outsold Call of Duty??

Dude Elden Rings sold like 15 million in the first month. CoD takes a full year to sell 20 million.

 

[Kacho]

Elden Ring is a monster. Goodness gracious.

 

[reksveks]

These console growth predictions from analyst's seem a bit off unless there is massive increases in stock.

Software rev and DLC isn't supporting that prediction.

 

[SlimySnake]

Can someone tell me where Horizon and GT7 charted last month.

Id also like to know where they ended up this month. Has he released the top 20 chart yet? MLB typically cleans up in April.

 

[reksveks]

Can someone tell me where Horizon and GT7 charted last month.

Id also like to know where they ended up this month. Has he released the top 20 chart yet? MLB typically cleans up in April.

 

[SlimySnake]

Those are good legs. Why is Sony not revealing the numbers?

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

Frankly it looks like GT7's bad publicity is hurting sales.

 

[reksveks]

Those are good legs. Why is Sony not revealing the numbers?

I would wait for the 25th before wondering that.

 

[SLB1904]

Frankly it looks like GT7's bad publicity is hurting sales.

In your dreams

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Those are good legs. Why is Sony not revealing the numbers?

Spiderman has good (actually, great) legs. Horizon and GT7 having good legs is yet to be seen. Legs are long term (6+ months).

 

[Imtjnotu]

So that implies more Series X's have been sold this year than Series S's, cause it wouldn't have been the top dollar generator with the $299 console.

You can walk into most stores and find a Series S. I gave yet to see a PS5 or series X on any shelf. That $299 console is leading the way

 

[rickybooby87]

So that implies more Series X's have been sold this year than Series S's, cause it wouldn't have been the top dollar generator with the $299 console.

Not necessarily, in theory they can produce twice as many XSS SOCs compared to XSX/PS5. So, maybe a combination of both?

 

[Kacho]

You can walk into most stores and find a Series S. I gave yet to see a PS5 or series X on any shelf. That $299 console is leading the way

Yeah. Seems like Series X and PS5 are mostly neck and neck with the Series S pushing Xbox ahead.

 

[arvfab]

The bundleeees

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Sony wasn't lying about that stock increase i see!

 

[Woopah]

For Switch to have passed PS4 it must be around 35 million or so.

Also The Show did not chart on Switch in its launch month, but did on its second month. I was not expecting that. It might be further evidence that Switch games sell differently to other platforms.

 

[SlimySnake]

Frankly it looks like GT7's bad publicity is hurting sales.

?? It's still in the top 10 in its second month. Thats not bad at all.
Forza Horizon 5 went from 4th to 15th in its second month.

December 2021 NPD: Halo Infinite has strong debut on the sales charts

The December 2021 NPD gaming report reveals a strong launch for Halo and an ongoing console shortage that is dragging down the industry.

venturebeat.com

I would wait for the 25th before wondering that.

What happens on the the 25th?

 

[Captain Toad]

Frankly it looks like GT7's bad publicity is hurting sales.

Or not. But, nice try.

 

[SlimySnake]

Can someone help me do that math here? Sony's quarterly reports said that they sold 14.5 million first game games in the first three months of the year.

That means GOW PC, Horizon, GT7 all sold a combined 14.5 million minus whatever Spiderman Miles, Ratchet, Demon Souls, Returnal and Uncharted 4 PS5 remaster sold which im assuming is not much.

We know from Steam numbers, GOW was around 2 million units. That brings us down to 12.5 million for everything else. Assuming Miles, Ratchet, DS, Returnal and Uncharted 4 remaster sold 2.5 million combined, we are looking at HFW and GT7 splitting the last 10 million. Thats really not that bad.

GT Sports was a slow seller. I believe it recently hit 14 million players despite selling relatively slowly out of the box. I just dont get why Sony is being secretive about these sales numbers.

 

[DForce]

Frankly it looks like GT7's bad publicity is hurting sales.

You tried saying that about HFW and failed. It's time to give it a rest, dude.

 

[arvfab]

Can someone help me do that math here? Sony's quarterly reports said that they sold 14.5 million first game games in the first three months of the year.

That means GOW PC, Horizon, GT7 all sold a combined 14.5 million minus whatever Spiderman Miles, Ratchet, Demon Souls, Returnal and Uncharted 4 PS5 remaster sold which im assuming is not much.

We know from Steam numbers, GOW was around 2 million units. That brings us down to 12.5 million for everything else. Assuming Miles, Ratchet, DS, Returnal and Uncharted 4 remaster sold 2.5 million combined, we are looking at HFW and GT7 splitting the last 10 million. Thats really not that bad.

GT Sports was a slow seller. I believe it recently hit 14 million players despite selling relatively slowly out of the box. I just dont get why Sony is being secretive about these sales numbers.

I guess The Show counts too.

 

[Three]

Console sales seem to be very close this month, PS5 #1 in revenue but #3 in units kinda implies close to parity.

What gives you the idea that it's #3 in units? Has that been confirmed somewhere?

Spiderman has good (actually, great) legs. Horizon and GT7 having good legs is yet to be seen. Legs are long term (6+ months).

Horizon and GT7 have great legs so far I'm not sure why you keep trying to suggest they don't and some other regulars trying yo say they have been completely forgotten. They are both top ten still on a single platform 3 months on. What games did that except Nintendos?

 

[johnjohn]

Good to see Xbox continuing to sell well in the US. Hopefully a strong showcase in June continues that momentum.

 

[SlimySnake]

I guess The Show counts too.

Oh wow. Google said MLB launched on April 5th. Had no idea it charted at 4 last month.

Well it typically sells around 1 million in the first month. Probably 1.5 million now that its on Xbox. Still, you are looking at 8 million split between GT7 and HFW.

Unless those other games i mentioned are selling better.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

So that implies more Series X's have been sold this year than Series S's, cause it wouldn't have been the top dollar generator with the $299 console.

Not necessarily; there were months Series just outright outsold PS5 in unit volumes, too, and Series S would've had a role to play in that. Though since Series X supply increased earlier this year, that would've contributed as well.

Good to see Xbox continuing to sell well in the US. Hopefully a strong showcase in June continues that momentum.

Well the delay news yesterday has kind of put a major dent in that, for me personally.

 

[jroc74]

Like someone said.....seems like MS is leaning heavily on the Series S if PS5 was 3rd in units but 1 in dollar sales.....

So that implies more Series X's have been sold this year than Series S's, cause it wouldn't have been the top dollar generator with the $299 console.

Well, for April its not the case at least.

What gives you the idea that it's #3 in units? Has that been confirmed somewhere?


Horizon and GT7 have great legs so far I'm not sure why you keep trying to suggest they don't and some other regulars trying yo say they have been completely forgotten. They are both top ten still on a single platform 3 months on. What games did that except Nintendos?

I am gonna assume its #3 in units until stated other wise.

But...I remember a similar argument last month and it was revealed that Xbos Series was #1 in units too, or higher than expected, cant remember now.

So, who knows. All I know is the PS5 console drought is damn near over. If MS couldn't take advantage of it to close the gap....I dont think it will ever close it.

 

[Zeroing]

Who won? I’m bad at math!
I don’t really care tho!

Congratulations to everyone! Let’s pop the champagne.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Frankly it looks like GT7's bad publicity is hurting sales.

The game is still top 10. The USA is also hardly its strongest market tbh. Europe is usually.

 

[El Pistolero]

Elden Ring is a monster. Goodness gracious.

Anywhere between 20 and 30 million copies sold when the dust settles, I think. No wonder Kadokawa has decided to use its own IPs to make videogames and cut publishers from the chain, though I am a bit worried about what that might imply for FS, going forward.

 

[kyliethicc]

Can someone help me do that math here? Sony's quarterly reports said that they sold 14.5 million first game games in the first three months of the year.

That means GOW PC, Horizon, GT7 all sold a combined 14.5 million minus whatever Spiderman Miles, Ratchet, Demon Souls, Returnal and Uncharted 4 PS5 remaster sold which im assuming is not much.

We know from Steam numbers, GOW was around 2 million units. That brings us down to 12.5 million for everything else. Assuming Miles, Ratchet, DS, Returnal and Uncharted 4 remaster sold 2.5 million combined, we are looking at HFW and GT7 splitting the last 10 million. Thats really not that bad.

GT Sports was a slow seller. I believe it recently hit 14 million players despite selling relatively slowly out of the box. I just dont get why Sony is being secretive about these sales numbers.

The 14.5 million for 1st party is for all games on PS4/5. Not just new/recent releases.

Its literally every game sold during Jan-Mar on PS4/5 published by SIE.

If someone bought a copy of Knack or The Order 1886 last quarter, it’s in that 14.5 mil figure.

PC ports are not included in this figure.

 

[skit_data]

Anywhere between 20 and 30 million copies sold when the dust settles, I think. No wonder Kadokawa has decided to use its own IPs to make videogames and cut publishers from the chain, though I am a bit worried about what that might imply for FS, going forward.

What do you mean? Bandai Namco is the publisher?

 

[reksveks]

?? It's still in the top 10 in its second month. Thats not bad at all.
Forza Horizon 5 went from 4th to 15th in its second month.

December 2021 NPD: Halo Infinite has strong debut on the sales charts

The December 2021 NPD gaming report reveals a strong launch for Halo and an ongoing console shortage that is dragging down the industry.

venturebeat.com

What happens on the the 25th?

Sony business segment updates, Jim Ryan is speaking around 9am jst about SIE.

 

[leo-j]

Expecting ps5 to erupt in the summer months. Europe and Japan sales are increasing throughout May.

 

[El Pistolero]

What do you mean? Bandai Namco is the publisher?

I believe so. They were for Sekiro. Perhaps someone else could confirm who the publisher is for Elden Ring?

 

[johnjohn]

Not necessarily; there were months Series just outright outsold PS5 in unit volumes, too, and Series S would've had a role to play in that. Though since Series X supply increased earlier this year, that would've contributed as well.



Well the delay news yesterday has kind of put a major dent in that, for me personally.

I'm sure a lot of people feel that way, but a good show can change that. Good gameplay showings for Starfield and Redfall will reignite the hype, and they obviously have a lot more than that to show that can create some good hype.

 

[skit_data]

I believe so. They were for Sakiro. Perhaps someone else could confirm who the publisher is for Elden Ring?

Activision published Sekiro, Bandai Namco published Dark Souls 1-3 and Elden Ring

 

[Thirty7ven]

Competition can thank Covid that's all imma say.

 

[johnjohn]

Like someone said.....seems like MS is leaning heavily on the Series S if PS5 was 3rd in units but 1 in dollar sales.....


Well, for April its not the case at least.

I am gonna assume its #3 in units until stated other wise.

But...I remember a similar argument last month and it was revealed that Xbos Series was #1 in units too, or higher than expected, cant remember now.

So, who knows. All I know is the PS5 console drought is damn near over. If MS couldn't take advantage of it to close the gap....I dont think it will ever close it.

Worldwide there was next to zero chance for Xbox to close the gap, in the US though they seem to be on their way to taking the lead again like they did with the 360.

 

[El Pistolero]

Activision published Sekiro, Bandai Namco published Dark Souls 1-3 and Elden Ring

Thanks for the info!

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I'm sure a lot of people feel that way, but a good show can change that. Good gameplay showings for Starfield and Redfall will reignite the hype, and they obviously have a lot more than that to show that can create some good hype.

Personally I just don't see the point in deep dive gameplay segments for either when the earliest they're coming is H1 2023. Especially in the case of Starfield, since they've already set a precedent of regular updates; if they do a deep dive this June, they'll have to regularly post more and more gameplay between then and launch, which could be as late as June 2023 (unless it slips into H2 2023).

They may end up with too much gameplay out there prior to release, dulling some of the hype (I feel like they did this accidentally with Forza Horizon 5, actually).

 

[Three]

So that implies more Series X's have been sold this year than Series S's, cause it wouldn't have been the top dollar generator with the $299 console.

How would you reach that conclusion though? not necessarily and I would say not likely either. It was leading in units and you have no unit values. They can be dollar sales YTD with units YTD.

 

[johnjohn]

Personally I just don't see the point in deep dive gameplay segments for either when the earliest they're coming is H1 2023. Especially in the case of Starfield, since they've already set a precedent of regular updates; if they do a deep dive this June, they'll have to regularly post more and more gameplay between then and launch, which could be as late as June 2023 (unless it slips into H2 2023).

They may end up with too much gameplay out there prior to release, dulling some of the hype (I feel like they did this accidentally with Forza Horizon 5, actually).

They don't need to do a deep dive here, people just want to see how the game is going to look and play. A short gameplay trailer or demo (it needs to be more than a teaser, but doesn't need to be a full blown walkthrough) that showcases some of the diverse locations and maybe even revealing manual space flight would be exciting. They just need to show people that the wait for the game will be worth it.

 

[lh032]

JIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Please spend less time on email and focusing on delivering PS5!!!

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

They don't need to do a deep dive here, people just want to see how the game is going to look and play. A short gameplay trailer or demo (it needs to be more than a teaser, but doesn't need to be a full blown walkthrough) that showcases some of the diverse locations and maybe even revealing manual space flight would be exciting. They just need to show people that the wait for the game will be worth it.

Yeah it needs to be something like a two-minute uninterrupted gameplay segment for both games. No intercuts with CG cutscenes, no distracting "trailer music", no MTV-style glitz and glamour editing. Just let the games speak for themselves for a few minutes, with epic gameplay segments.

And for goodness sake they better not be another Halo Infinite 2020 showing

 

[mansoor1980]

whats the console split for elden ring?