Dick Jones
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So what you're saying The Order 1866 and Knack sold a combined 14.5m copies in the last quarter
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NPD April 2022 - PS5 rev #1, Switch unit #1, Lego #1 this month and #2 ytd
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I'm sorry to say that, but it sounds like the "wait for E3" we have been hearing for over a decade. With the difference in the name this time, of course.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah, but how many of those games sell every quarter? Returnal, Ratchet and Demon Souls basically fell off the charts immediately after launch. Demon Souls limped to 1.2 million units in a year worldwide. Returnal 500k in its first 4 months. We got 1 million figure for Ratchet in July but nothing since. I highly doubt these games are selling by the millions. maybe 100k each in the three month period.
I didnt know GOW wasnt included. Thats even better news for HFW and GT7 because that means 2 million it sold on Steam is added back to 14.5 million of first party games sold. Both games have shown good legs in NPD and on UK charts. I thought the game flopped or sold less than the original's 2.7 million figure with the way people were talking about it here.
Didnt GT Sports have a player tracker for GT Sports? How comes no one made one for GT7?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
When I read dollar generated, my brain, like most people I would assume, thinks of the amount accumulated from retail sale. And a $499 console generates a lot more than a $299 console.
Series S is probably what keeps them ahead this year but it looks/feels like a very healthy amount of SX also sold thanks to the massive drop they had in March/April.
Jaybe
Member
Interesting to compare PlayStation top 10 vs Xbox top 10.
4 CODs on Xbox’s list. Nobody buying The Show, obviously Game Pass impacts that but still you’d think enough some would buy it to beat BOps 3. In fact, 4 key sports games in PS list vs just FIFA on Xbox. EA is only in the GPU tier of game pass.
4 CODs on Xbox’s list. Nobody buying The Show, obviously Game Pass impacts that but still you’d think enough some would buy it to beat BOps 3. In fact, 4 key sports games in PS list vs just FIFA on Xbox. EA is only in the GPU tier of game pass.
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Well we're less than a month away, so not much longer now! But yea, typically you need to wait to E3 to find out what the next year is going to look like, that's how it has always been. Sony is in the same position right now with no games dated.
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kyliethicc
Member
I just mean it’s basically impossible to determine exact sales for any 1 game from that reported number.
But yeah in general, the higher total it is each quarter means the new releases (that chart) each sold a decent chunk.
kyliethicc
Member
14,499,999 copies of Knack and 1 copy of The Order.So what you're saying The Order 1866 and Knack sold a combined 14.5m copies in the last quarter
Woopah
Member
Three. Switch came third in January after Nintendo was unable to restock fast enough post holidays.
Imru’ al-Qays
Member
Sony is not in the same position dude. Sony has been releasing major first party games reliably for years at this point.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
John Wick
Member
GT games always keep trucking along. Also aren't they much better sellers in Europe?
And yet here we are with no upcoming games dated.
John Wick
Member
It's a good thing Sony haven't been showing CGI trailers for games years away. They will have loads to show
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I understand, just trying to get some estimates. To me 14.5 million first party sales is a pretty amazing number even if HFW and GT7 didnt sell well. That shows their games have great legs.
Goalus
Member
It is also mighty impressive because there definitely ARE Series S consoles among the ones that generated these record-breaking dollar sales.
Xbox is on fire
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
And yet we know at least Forspoken is releasing this year alongside God of War Ragnarok (for now) and Stray.
Forspoken isn't done by PlayStation studios but it will only be available on PS5.
John Wick
Member
Exactly! Why date stuff that you can't 100% guarantee?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I feel like maybe my post wasn't worded properly.
Yes, most likely a higher number of SS have sold over the whole year, but the fact that it has the highest dollar generated means a very healthy amount of SX have been sold as well, likely all the stocks they could dump out, to have generated that dollar amount.
Yes, most likely a higher number of SS have sold over the whole year, but the fact that it has the highest dollar generated means a very healthy amount of SX have been sold as well, likely all the stocks they could dump out, to have generated that dollar amount.
I don't know if I'd be to hopeful about Forespoken, that game has managed to look worse every time they've shown it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Interesting to compare PlayStation top 10 vs Xbox top 10.
4 CODs on Xbox’s list. Nobody buying The Show, obviously Game Pass impacts that but still you’d think enough some would buy it to beat BOps 3. In fact, 4 key sports games in PS list vs just FIFA on Xbox. EA is only in the GPU tier of game pass.
Halo and Forza still charting in the top 10s despite being on game pass.
And folks keep wrongfully assuming those games don't sell at retail cause of that association.
Imru’ al-Qays
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Who cares? Sony doesn't need games dated. They've been releasing games! Microsoft hasn't.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
There's also Final Fantasy XVI. I mean...if somehow they manage to delay God of War, Final Fantasy XVI and Forspoken to 2023 then god helps us all, but specially my wallet.
MS actually won publisher of the year last year, they're having a drought now just like Sony did the second half of last year. Bottom line is both Xbox and PlayStation have to show what they having coming because so far the second half the the year is looking anemic from both of them.
kyliethicc
Member
Indeed.
In the quarter than TLOU2 came out in, it was like 18.5 million. Only other new release that quarter was Predator Hunting Grounds lol. Like Ghost wasn’t until the following quarter. MLB 20 was the previous quarter, etc.
And also with 3 first party titles released in 2022...
Xbox has Scorn dated for October, Stalker 2 dated for December, and some good looking indies dated for this year too. It's yet to be seen if those hit, but it's Xbox's and PlayStation's first parties that we're waiting for. I'm very interested to see some new IPs from PlayStation, because so far its been all sequels to games that didn't interest me (aside from GoW) in the PS4 gen.
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Goalus
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They pulled off a real feat last year with that publisher of the year award when in reality they didn't release any games at all
People just have very short memories. At the end of the year last year MS was on fire and PS fans were complaining about a lack of games and a lack of communication.They pulled off a real feat last year with that publisher of the year award when in reality they didn't release any games at all
skit_data
Member
Calm down, Sony usually do their info dumps once a year and just like MS they might have something dropping right out of the blue like Forza Horizon 5 did last year. Demon’s Souls and Miles Morales wasn’t revealed until June the same year they launched. If their shows go by and we don’t see anything about any games releasing in the 2nd half of the year that’s when I’d start to worry.
Same goes for Xbox btw, I think it’s entirely possible they announce something in June that will launch this year as well.
Imru’ al-Qays
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Nobody fucking won publisher of the year, that's not a real thing lol
One could argue that without Gamepass, those games would have been higher than 8th and 5th in the Xbox only chart and maybe even appear in the overall top 20, like for example Miles Morales, which regularly rejoins the list.
Sure thing lol, if that makes you feel better. The point is they released a bunch of critically acclaimed games last year.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Yea, that's what I've been saying. You're replying to the wrong person.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Also
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Thats the xbox only chart.
On the overall charts, Halo failed to chart in the top 20 last year. Forza came in right at the 20th mark.
Both entered the charts at number 2, but failed to sell enough copies overall. MLB the Show outsold both Forza and Halo and thats a baseball game where its digital sales on Xbox werent even included. They were outsold by Miles Morales in its SECOND year. They were outsold by Back4Blood a massive flop. And Mortal Kombat, a 3 year old game.
And yet Xbox announced 20 million users for both Forza and Halo. So clearly these games are being played by a record number of players, just not selling all that well.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I think Sony launches TLOU 2 Factions bundled with the TLOU remake while XBox goes with Forza 8. It was originally announced as a 2022 title I believe, but we havent seen anything since. The only thing that gives me pause is that it was announced as being in early pre-production. Can they go from that to full production and release in 2 years?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Why not both. We already know Forza had 1 million+ paying pre orders before the game even came out, MS isn't usually in the habit of releasing sales numbers for a very long well documented while now.
Even these NPD numbers aren't from MS officially.
But looking at the charts, we can at least very safely say that Xbox owners are buying them, along with playing them on Game Pass as well.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Xbox is 90% digital and The Show doesn't include Xbox digital sales on NPD.Interesting to compare PlayStation top 10 vs Xbox top 10.
4 CODs on Xbox’s list. Nobody buying The Show, obviously Game Pass impacts that but still you’d think enough some would buy it to beat BOps 3. In fact, 4 key sports games in PS list vs just FIFA on Xbox. EA is only in the GPU tier of game pass.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Hardware revenue is barely even relevant for MS/Sony since it doesn't represent profit. A weird stat for anyone following sales to care about.
(I think the obsession w/ sales in general is a bit odd, but it does increase a userbase which means more platform support so it makes at least SOME sense, revenue? who gives a shit, don't even think Sony/MS care outside of pumping a number up while not increasing profit margin)
(I think the obsession w/ sales in general is a bit odd, but it does increase a userbase which means more platform support so it makes at least SOME sense, revenue? who gives a shit, don't even think Sony/MS care outside of pumping a number up while not increasing profit margin)
assurdum
Banned
Are you serious?
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Those seem to be the facts. XSS is the reason why Xbox is ahead of PS5 YTD.
Kacho
Member
How else would Series be ahead of PS5 in terms of dollar sales year to date? Series X is hard to find just like PS5. Series S is the only one regularly available.
assurdum
Banned
So wait a second, the console which has more stock sell less than the other one supply constrained? And from what I have understood ps5 is ahead to both console in dollars units sales this month. Shouldnt Series S generate more hardware dollars units during this year? At least using the logic.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
It's long been established on NeoGAF that the only reason people buy XSS is because they don't want it. They're forced to buy it because they can't find PS5 or XSX. So it makes sense that it's selling more. Nobody wants it and/or they have stupid grandparents.
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assurdum
Banned
If I can say I expect the xbox not supply constrained places more units than the other one. At least in US. Call me crazy.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
Yeah, that's how it really works. Just not around here.
We got gameplay for Elden Ring 8 months to release. Got gameplay for GOW Ragnarok with what looks to be one year (at least) to release. Got a gameplay deep dive to Horizon Forbidden West May 27th 2021 for a game that released Feb 2022.
None of those had the hype dulled.
Starfield is planned as a massive open world RPG. Showing multiple gameplay snippets won’t be an issue at all.
This forum has been vocal in complaining about a lack of Starfield gameplay even when it was thought to be over a year out, so I find your post surprising.
You’ve been waiting for a decade to see Starfield gameplay?