terrisus
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Well, given the aggregate of 57K for Vita, that would mean
47K < Vita < 50K
(Think we have everything else figured closer than than +/- 10K on aggregates will give us, but at least is a check for our math)
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NPD July 2012 Sales Results [Up3: 3DS Hardware Correction - 124K+]
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Well, given the aggregate of 57K for Vita, that would mean
47K < Vita < 50K
(Think we have everything else figured closer than than +/- 10K on aggregates will give us, but at least is a check for our math)
The thing about the Virtual Boy was that the whole concept of it was destined to fail. The Vita on the other hand could've potentially have been very successful, and it really should've, but it's on course to be a catastrophic failure, and that really says more about Sony's utter incompetence than anything else.
Petrae
Member
Go figure, right? I had to look twice myself.
bigtroyjon
Member
I have a feeling that the importance of the DS benchmark will change as the 3DS starts to fall behind. My predicted scenario.
Now "It's selling better than the DS. Means it's doing great"
Same person 2 years from now "Doesn't matter that it's selling much worse than the DS. DS was an anomaly that we will never see again"
not if the psp go has anything to say about it
A Human Becoming
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With that, my (almost) final numbers are:
DS: 131k
360: 203k
PS3: 138.5k
Wii: 66.5k
3DS: 131k
Vita: 48.5k
JordanLMiller
Member
Vita means "life" in latin.
What's the Latin word for death?
pretty much. people act like it's a big accomplishment when the ds sold extremely poorly for its first several months. worse than the ps3 did when it came out.
Petrae
Member
That's about as good as you're likely to get unless Nintendo or Sony comes forward with more information (which isn't likely).
frankie_baby
Member
Without the XL announcement the 3ds could finally have got above ps3 oh well should trounce everything next month
terrisus
Member
And PSP at around 30K
Gaf hates graphics and wants the HD twins to go on forever.
metalslimer
Member
Yep 3DS is not selling well right now unless you think the market for dedicated handhelds has contracted severely. You could possibly make the argument that its actually selling badly.
JordanLMiller
Member
I never understood this. I mean yes, you get lots of sales if you have a blockbuster game release around christmas, but aren't kids out of school for the summer so they would have more time to play games?
i think that while the hw is absolutely stunning it was actually designed to fail...
when sony designed the hw they had gaf in mind, and that's the mistake as others have pointed out.
mors
Petrae
Member
That's a great question. Is there some sort of stigma to releasing quality games in June or July? Are publishers afraid that summer vacations remove gaming from the leisure equation?
I honestly don't know the answers to these questions.
Mortem.
i've sorta been of the mind that the vita would keep on trucking, that it'd have a rough year, but the ship could be righted with some decent software and maybe a price drop. nothing like the psp's worldwide number, but maybe 20-30 million? now it looks like it might be discontinued very shortly. i mean these are just terrible numbers. if ac3 and call of duty don't do anything, the system won't be with us beyond 2014.
Petrae
Member
That's not even close, unfortunately. WAY too high.
But hey: 1,000 PS2 units sold in July!
nhlducks35
Member
PS Vita
I can see no scenario where this thing is over 6m by the end of the year let alone 10m.
RurouniZel
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Nogames
Judging the future of a recently released product based on sales during a post launch summer drought is not a very smart thing to do.
Sony has still all the possible weapons to use (price cuts, big games, maketing, redesigns) to change the situation.
I don't know if they're gonna hit their target, but I think it's obvious that with good games, aggressive bundles and an actual marketing campaign things will get much better than right now.
People tend to overract or simply they are biased, PS3 was considered to be dead for two years after its launch, it was almost hated, and now it's a pretty successful product with a lot of great games still to come.
Megadragon15
Member
Good night. We hardly knew you.
I laughed
:lol
well right now it's at 1.6m between america and japan. if you factor in europe to be 3.4 million, then they're halfway there. and that's without the holiday season.
i'm guessing at month 19.
KillerTravis
Banned
Morte?
completely agree
actually that's the accusative
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A Human Becoming
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Further estimates:
YTD:
DS: 772.7k
360: 1.923m
PS3: 1.512m
Wii: 879.3k
3DS: 1.183m
Vita: 686.9k
LTD:
DS: 51.918m
360: 34.587m
PS3: 21.49m
Wii: 39.564m
3DS: 5.249m
Vita: 686.9k
YTD:
DS: 772.7k
360: 1.923m
PS3: 1.512m
Wii: 879.3k
3DS: 1.183m
Vita: 686.9k
LTD:
DS: 51.918m
360: 34.587m
PS3: 21.49m
Wii: 39.564m
3DS: 5.249m
Vita: 686.9k
Seeing the DS and 3DS so constantly close to each other month after month still makes me wonder how much of a boost the 3DS will see when Nintendo finally puts a bullet in the DS. Even at only 250k it would be competing for the top console spot each month at this rate... haha...
Bending_Unit_22
Member
Severe or not, just back to the size prior to the DS/PSP explosion. Or well, would be if both players hadn't decided $250+ was a great price to launch a handheld at. It was perfectly healthy in the past, can be in the future (at least with one handheld).
Well there is the one kind of biggish factor in favor of the 3DS, it hasn't had 2 holidays yet like the DS. That being said that will become an increasingly smaller factor as time goes on and yes inevitably the 3DS will fall behind the DS.
Of course on the flip side the DS was expected to get a worse curbstomping from the PSP than the GCN got from the PS2 in those early years. The Vita on the other hand, is something less of a challenge.
terrisus
Member
Ah. Well, guess I just kind of assumed it would hang around balacing out the upper bound of 80K PSP+Vita. Guess that upper bound itself was overly high, since obviously we have the Vita down to a 3K range.
But, hey, we got a PS2 number out of it, that's something.
Megadragon15
Member
Where did you get this number from?
Petrae
Member
Probably November with WiiU.
Nothing really points to an alternate answer. PS3 revision and price cut aren't guarantees to generate interest, and Wii is finished. I suppose 3DS could sneak up on 360 in August if consumers are receptive to NSMB2 and the XL revision, but am not sold on that scenario.
Maybe at 4 million by the end of October? If they're lucky? 1 million a month in November and December is doable but unlikely. Europe might get it there I guess. 10 million is definitely completely out of reach though. I'd be SHOCKED if it did 7.
wonder how the 3ds would be selling if it was $99.99 and the games were $29.99 or $34.99 at most.
the ds had some crazy months, but the gba was a beast. the gba basically did all its sales in the span of four years. if it had more time, it would have probably hit 60m in the states.
the ds had some crazy months, but the gba was a beast. the gba basically did all its sales in the span of four years. if it had more time, it would have probably hit 60m in the states.
Petrae
Member
The future is DIGITAL.
frankie_baby
Member
Read his tag
..... digital ?
i was joking. no way is europe twice the rest of the major markets, even if it has been sonyland for over a decade.