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NPD Sales Results for April 2014 [Up2: XB1/360 hardware, PS4 #1/XB1 #2 best selling]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Officerrob
Banned
Don't hold your breath
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Most consumers don't get inflation adjustments to their paychecks.
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah.
Aqua please give us Nintendo numbers in due time, at least in ratio form lol
Even if it's not up but relatively flat, that's better than the current trend as well.
Even if it's not up but relatively flat, that's better than the current trend as well.
Come on Nirolak, you know people on GAF love looking at the negative side of things over the positives!
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Yup. Most people in the industry are pretty excited!
~199k
Freeman
Banned
I can't disagree with you, too bad. Vita will be the first time Sony failed to properly support their hardware, unless things change. I'll will still keep a little bit of hope that they have some sort of strategy at least until E3 tho.
I still think cross gen hurts more than it helps especially this fall. All those games are going to be held back because of older hardware. They would have a lot better luck convincing the core gamers to upgrade with more next gen only games that actually look the part. Watchdogs might sell to those who have a PS4/Xbone but hardly going to sell any consoles. Watchdogs will get some sales but those will be mostly because of the software drought the PS4/Xbone have.
Your question makes no sense. You're comparing this generation where two core consoles released at the same time to last generation where one console released a year previously and proceeded to lead in sales in the US all generation. Obviously last 2007 would look different than 2014 since the Xbox 360 had already been out for an entire year and had a considerably larger install base than the Xbox One does now. You're comparing apples and oranges. I'm not saying your argument has no merit, but there's no valid comparison between your data sets.
I'm also not sure why it would be a bad thing if history repeated itself. Last generation say the most healthy game industry in history. Repeating that would be great for the industry. That probably won't happen since this generation doesn't have anywhere near the appeal to casuals as last generation, but I can't imagine why anyone would believe this generation is getting off to a poor start. It's really not.
Not exactly. Cost of living adjustments annually are a norm for salaried employees.
Hourly wage earners don't track with inflation though because...reasons.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I realized that afterward (despite being colorblind myself), so I made one easier to read:
BlowoverKing
Banned
Is anyone else even a little bit curious about Conception 2 and Demon Gaze sales?
Hades Hotgun
Banned
I don't think it is likely, because I think Sony is still happy with their sales and their current price. But if thing start to look as front loaded as some of the folks in this thread seem to think, then Sony is in a much better position to drop the price on the PS4 than they were when they did drop it on the PS3.
leatherhat
Member
I'd imagine they would be overwhelmingly digital.
Not sure if serious?
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
It all comes down to the games. If GTAV was PS4/XB1 exclusive it would have consoles flying out the door. But everything is still in that weird crossover period and studios still need more time to put together their next gen exclusives.
SwiftDeath
Member
I'm finally back!!!
So XB1 @ 115k, 360 @ 71k
I've seen rumors that PS4 is @ ~199k? Based off some calculations apparently?
That's disappointing
And with everything else below 115k, my predictions are screwed :'(
Ah well
Edit: Holy shit, people calculating 3.3k Vita sales?
So XB1 @ 115k, 360 @ 71k
I've seen rumors that PS4 is @ ~199k? Based off some calculations apparently?
That's disappointing
And with everything else below 115k, my predictions are screwed :'(
Ah well
Edit: Holy shit, people calculating 3.3k Vita sales?
Not true. That's about all they get unfortunately, but they do get that.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Pretty obvious that the Kinect Sports super bomba made the dropping Kinect decision that much easier. It was THE killer app for the device this year.
If anything I'd like to see the difference between 3DS and Vita for Conception.
Indeed. While they don't all appeal to me, the games coming in the September-December timeframe are big heavy hitters and some new ip's
Destiny
CoD
AC Unity
The Order
Evolve
Arkham Knight
Sunset Overdrive
Uncharted 4 (possibly)
X
Bayonetta 2
Smash for Wii U
And who knows what Q4 games will be announced at E3.
3DS is about 100k.
Cream said 3DS + Wii U was about equal to PS4, then later gave a figure that revealed the Wii U is about 49k, putting the 3DS at about 100k.
[edit] eh, OK, I guess he said Wii + Wii U + 3DS is LESS than PS4, so the 3DS didn't quite make 100k.
The 360 didn't win because of 2006 alone. Also the scenario is actually exactly the same when it comes to the timing next gen console releases, its just been flipped a little.
2005: Xbox 360 launch
2006: PS3/Wii Launch
2012: Wii-U launch
2013: PS4/Xbone launch
It makes more sense to me to compare this gen to last gen when all the competitors released something on the market than looking at which console had a time advantage and seeing how things chart then.
We never get much info on niche games so I think many of us are resigned to never knowing for sure. I just figure a few thousand, but enough for the games they were. Maybe. We'll see if any successors show up here.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Aquamarine
Member
I'm really glad, honestly.
Their optimism will lead to some fantastic new experiences this gen.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Huh? Wii + 3DS <= 150K, not 100K....
I'm really glad, honestly.
Their optimism will lead to some fantastic new experiences this gen.
At least it'll spur them to take chance on new things. Developers typically do that around the start of a new genration.
You're still comparing apples to oranges. You don't see the obvious logical fallacy with comparing the Wii U to the Xbox 360? Really? Come on...
Looking at game sales alone. How many Wii U games charted high this April? Compare that to how many 360 games charted high in 2007. Your argument instantly becomes ridiculous. No offense, but there's no logical comparison between 2007 and 2014. I'm not sure how you can't see that.
Besides, we're still in a worldwide recession. The fact that the game industry is up year over year should be enough to celebrate. Way too many pessimistic people here who are seeing doom where there isn't any...
Steve Youngblood
Member
This industry can go to hell. 17k for Mario Golf? Burn it down.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
That was only in 2 days though. Is it really that bad? I kind of doubt it's a super front-loaded title, although I could be wrong.
SwiftDeath
Member
Wow that Mario Golf opening is rough
Infamous seems to have done okay in its second month
TF XB1 is hard to judge as the bundle was probably the most attractive XB1 SKU and so much of the sales came from that
Would love to get Kinect SR numbers
Infamous seems to have done okay in its second month
TF XB1 is hard to judge as the bundle was probably the most attractive XB1 SKU and so much of the sales came from that
Would love to get Kinect SR numbers
Its just a guess pulled out of my ass, but simple logic will indicate than PS4 is selling at least 2:1 vs Xbone WW.
Dr.Bergenstein
Banned
E3 is less than a month from now, so lots of things are going to get announced soon. However, I still feel like A LOT of people are content with the last-gen systems. I know plenty of people who just got PS3s in the last 2 years, and are currently catching up on games they missed out on over the last 7-8 years, myself included (I've owned a PS3 a few times, but there is a ton of stuff I haven't gotten around to yet.) Sony and Microsoft both made the mistake of waiting far too long to get the price down on their previous consoles, and that really caused a lot of the mainstream gamers who makeup the majority of sales to hold off on buying those machines until they were more affordable. Well, that's what I think happened, at least.
Remember, as far as North America is concerned, there was a recession taking place during the prime years of the previous gen. People weren't spending money like they were before that.
Remember, as far as North America is concerned, there was a recession taking place during the prime years of the previous gen. People weren't spending money like they were before that.
Well, PS4 isn't DANGEROUSLY lower than the Xbox 360 at this same point in its life (which was heavily supply constrained) and the Xbox One IS ahead of the PS3 at this point in its life going by the April 2007 NPD I dug up so while the growth isn't huge and doesn't seem to be enough for some of the games the industry seemingly wants to make anymore, it isn't that hard to believe industry people are excited.
I can't help but wonder if we could enter a situation where console sales are fairly good but the software collapses because it just got too expensive, being a surreal scenario where we have a high number of people actively interested (more so than 20 years ago anyway) but what they want is too big for just them alone.
*3.3k.
Your number suggests the vita sold 3.3 million
I wonder how much the Nvidia Shield is selling.
That's why I didn't compare Wii-U numbers in 2013 with 360 numbers in 2006. I compared two points in time when all next gen stuff was out and what was charting software wise. We'll have to agree to disagree on whatever this argument is.
I mean, I personally said nothing about doom, don't know where you're getting that from. Something being different or not as good doesn't equal doom.
It has to be more than that. Just with japan and it's more than 2:1 last month easily
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Tax season?
I'm fascinated by the people that can observe a situation like this and determine that a crash is occurring. The two biggest console launches in history took place in the same month, and sales have been great otherwise, especially given the PR mistakes made by MS and Sony playing its cards very close to its chest. Now that the games have dried up and we're entering the summer drought, suddenly the sales drop you would expect is the harbinger of doom. Neither manufacturer has really given people much reason to jump ship this year, so at least wait until the fall buying season before making anymore predictions about long-term viability.
BlowoverKing
Banned
We got Dangan Ronpa numbers in February though, right? Was hoping since it seems like a slow month that we'd get numbers on these two as well.