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NPD Sales Results for December 2007
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Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Snah said:
I didn't realise the masses had adopted a next-gen media format.
man, I honestly didn't think the GAF had these sorts of characters when I joined. :lol
Miniboss1232
Member
gkrykewy said:
I was hoping someone would point out the irony. Also, you'd think a gamer would want to spend less on the hardware and more on the games.
tjhooker said:
Point by point...
If lagging behind in the US is keeping pace with a name like "PLAYSTATION" on it is a good thing then the 360 outselling the PS3 is Megaton. And at best its 200 more.. at worse its 100 more or 40 dollars cheaper than the 360.
Halo3 sold more copies than ps3's, probably close to a billion dollars now and its TOTAL budget was 30 million (including marketing). Not including what people paid them to be attached to the Halo name.
HD-DVD on the 360 was never a factor in the "War" The fact that the PS3 is trying to sell itself as a blu-ray player brings me to the next point
AAA games on the 360 sells millions , AAA games on the PS3 sells 100,000's and blockbuster games struggle to sell more than 1 million. Check attach rate. Think people that buy it as a bluray player are buying games? Don't look like it to me.
The 360 outselling the PS3 in any month is "disastrous" for the PS name.
Let alone christmas.
For a few months you could say the PS3 was selling more than the 360 at launch but sony fans can't even use that crutch anymore. And 3rd party devs have to be thinking.. we made 40 mill (after stock/royalties) on 1 million sold but on the 360 a million seller on the PS3 would have been 5 million. How long can Sony keep exlusives when they can't pay enough to offset the loss in sales from the sofware, buy 2 cause I like the game, xbox fans?
Face it.. Sony sold its playerbase out to solidify its bluray format
Good for them
Bad for gamers.
AndersTheSwede
Member
skinnyrattler said:
psst. sarcasm.
BLaZiN PRopHeT
Member
test_account said:
Companies dont get the full 60 bucks for games.
PS3 software sales make me vomit. It wouldn't even be such a big deal that it was selling like liquid feces if the software sold to a hardcore base that owned the machine. It's increasingly obvious the hardcore are the only ones that own PS3s, and generally they own 360s, so why bother with PS3 software.
Thank god for 360 supporting western developers.
Thank god for 360 supporting western developers.
mysticstylez
Banned
beerbelly said:
Yet Activision is going to let Treyarch ruin the momentum by making COD5 a WW2 game. With sales this great Activision should have IW make COD5.
Mr.Potato Head
Banned
what i cant figure out is seeing the ps3 doing so badly... after their rock'n ps1 and ps2 platforms.. its hard to imagine whats going on with ps3 right now..
It baffles me how bad sony has dropped the ball this generation... it sucks too because ps1 and ps2 had so so many kick ass games on those systems. I dont care what anyone says about ..oh there still Resistence 2 and Metel Gear,etc,etc.. alot of developers will and are dropping the ps3 platform as a lucrative platform to develop for..its not gonna get any better here on out for ps3..which is sad, it really upsets me too because the ps3 has alot of potential in its hardware and its hardly being tapped but by a small handful of dev's now days
It baffles me how bad sony has dropped the ball this generation... it sucks too because ps1 and ps2 had so so many kick ass games on those systems. I dont care what anyone says about ..oh there still Resistence 2 and Metel Gear,etc,etc.. alot of developers will and are dropping the ps3 platform as a lucrative platform to develop for..its not gonna get any better here on out for ps3..which is sad, it really upsets me too because the ps3 has alot of potential in its hardware and its hardly being tapped but by a small handful of dev's now days
Corwood Rep
Member
What amazes me about the Wii, and little else strictly does with the questionable software sales (thank God Galaxy is selling well though, as it's basically the best fuckin' thing ever) that are the only valid excuse developers have for not giving it otherwise overdue attention, is that it sold 1.3 million despite sustained difficulties in simply getting the damn thing out the door. This thing sold 1.3 million blindfolded, basically, which makes me wonder what it could be doing if Nintendo fixed the production issues.
Nothing about the DS surprises me. Breaking records and total domination of the market are the fucking norm by now.
Everything else is kind of in line with what I expected except for Mario and Sonic. That took me by surprise.
Nothing about the DS surprises me. Breaking records and total domination of the market are the fucking norm by now.
Everything else is kind of in line with what I expected except for Mario and Sonic. That took me by surprise.
Miniboss1232 said:
For Sony, it's a feedback loop.
PS3 is important for getting Sony hardware into the homes of millions. They can do this with videogames and the playstation brand. So, it does have some worth indirectly, even if it takes a loss in that division. It allowed for them to win the next-gen media war that they otherwise would not have won. They will still continue to keep the Playstation brand going because of this in order to have a Sony presence as a a mainstay in homes.
And, honestly, it's the same for Microsoft as well. Do you think that they enjoy losing billions upon billions each year with their gaming division? So far, they've NEVER been in the green. That may change in 2008 for them, but it cannot justify their past expenses. They're in it for the same reason Sony is: getting a box sitting under the television so that they can put forward other profitable initiatives.
The *ONLY* hardware company that is in the videogames business to make profit directly from the videogames business is Nintendo. And it's not like they've had to make sacrifices in order to make that happen, at least from a consumer's standpoint. They've had to rely on hardware that isn't cutting edge, and software with budgets that are nowhere near what we're seeing for some PS3/360 titles.
I came to check the initial post, and after browsing even a half a page after I... Some of you guys are just fucking ridiculous. I've never seen a generation take sides this badly in 20 years of console usage. The 3DO vs Jag era was amusing, this now is just absolutely laughable and annoying.
test_account
XP-39C²
schuelma said:
Thanks for the notice
Not too bad numbers over there either, considering its suppose to be one of the more slower weeks, no?Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
Snah said:
Awesome. Totally awesome.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Mr.Potato Head said:
Indeed.
I'm amazed that people don't give Microsoft credit for the position they are currently in. The PS2 destroyed the original Xbox, both through hardware and software sales.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Bookey said:
Awesome post. Do you have a blog I could read?
IronicallyTwisted
Banned
Zzoram said:
Don't waste your time with this one.
AndersTheSwede
Member
FFChris said:
Apparently people live across the ocean, who knew? But they don't track vg sales so they don't matter.
ComputerNerd
Banned
itsgreen said:
How is 360 HW wow, and Wii HW meh?
Okay, I'm going to do what my mammy has told me to do...
I'm going to dispute the numbers, because they can't be true.
Then I'm going to insult a few of our members, because what do they have to offer?
Then I'm going to bask in my own glory. I have achieved total forum glory.
I think you people will never achieve total truth like I have.
I don't love you. I don't hate you. I have no regard for you at all. You people are boring.
I'm going to dispute the numbers, because they can't be true.
Then I'm going to insult a few of our members, because what do they have to offer?
Then I'm going to bask in my own glory. I have achieved total forum glory.
I think you people will never achieve total truth like I have.
I don't love you. I don't hate you. I have no regard for you at all. You people are boring.
mysticstylez
Banned
Mr.Potato Head said:
PS1 went up against a overpriced and underpowered Sega Saturn. Then the PS2 went up against a system that was on it's last legs (Dreamcast) when the PS2 launched.
They had no real competition when the PSone and PS2 were released.
Metalmurphy
Member
Bookey said:
Jesus! :lol
Tutomos
Member
Ok, so the landscape is changing. The franchises we'd seen doing very well for EA during the PS2 era are gone, games like NFS and Medal of Honor are replaced by other games in this gen. Activition is going to take their place pretty soon. I think EA is in a rebuilding period. They got some new IP that are great, like Skate and RockBand, but they haven't made much sales impact yet, but like I said EA is sort of rebuilding, so in the future those new games will become very viable. One thing they have to be careful about though, it's that they can't have more misses than hits. They already miss with Boogie, now Army of Two could be in danger of tanking.
So in relation with Sony, EA has been closely aligned with them, and during such a short time in this generation, we have seen not one but two giants being significantly weakened. I think they are both taking some chances and risks, and I think they will both bounce back
So in relation with Sony, EA has been closely aligned with them, and during such a short time in this generation, we have seen not one but two giants being significantly weakened. I think they are both taking some chances and risks, and I think they will both bounce back
test_account
XP-39C²
Zzoram said:
True, but it is a 1st party game so they make more than a 3rd part game i assume. But lets say $30 income for each game, then its 30 million dollars. I doubt it cost 30 million dollars to develope Uncharted. I would assume somewere around 15 million dollars + -.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Bookey said:
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I'm satisfied with all these numbers.
test_account
XP-39C²
IronicallyTwisted said:
What? All i said was that i think Uncharted will profit. So what time is there to waste? Maybe better to read what i say instead of thinking im some crazy fanboy trying to spin things.
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lockload said:
? COD4 PS3 numbers have already justified the investment, especially when you factor in WW sales. The game selling much more on the 360 just means more money for Activision. They like money and their big guns (COD4, GH3) sell well enough on PS3 to continue support.
mysticstylez
Banned
Zzoram said:
The DS isn't a console, and if you could read, he said "console".