But you know what I love about consoles now that I'm not 15 and have all the time in the world to troubleshoot shit? Just popping that fucker in and playing it. No modifying .dll's, no driver updates, no nothing. I got stupid grown up shit to do, so I want to do my childish hobby as fast and easy as possible.
Hasn't this been the rumour all along though? Something like PS4 ~ 1.8 TFLOPS, 720 ~ 1.2 TFLOPS?
The slide is tilted and it's only a rough approximation anyway.
How would NVIDIA know the exact specs of the 720?
Huh? So I can just buy a titan and start playing games on it with out any additional effort?They do .. its call the geforce series.
Oh god, here we go again.
Let me pre-cap the thread:
- salty
- console optimization
- to the metal
- carmack
- overhead
- $3000 PCs
Did I miss anything?
Well they made a handheld, if that sells good than I expect them to make a console lol.
lol
Titan only had 6GB GDDR5. PS4 has more
It's like this guy never brought a graphics card before
What a dickhead
But you know what I love about consoles now that I'm not 15 and have all the time in the world to troubleshoot shit? Just popping that fucker in and playing it. No modifying .dll's, no driver updates, no nothing. I got stupid grown up shit to do, so I want to do my childish hobby as fast and easy as possible.
It's interesting that they give such an honest evaluation of the 360 and PS3 GPU's relative performance, given that they supplied the latter.360 was ahead of it's time.
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Oh god, here we go again.
Let me pre-cap the thread:
- salty
- console optimization
- to the metal
- carmack
- overhead
- $3000 PCs
Did I miss anything?
I don't get why Nvidia keeps feeling the need to flaunt these kind of numbers. We get it already.
The real question is that if they're already releasing GPUs that are 3 times as powerful as consoles and consoles are almost always the baseline for major releases, what hardware are they going to be releasing 2-3 years down the line? I really don't think there's going to be much of a market for the highest end hardware at that point, and that's just gonna lower as the generation goes on.
I don't get why Nvidia keeps feeling the need to flaunt these kind of numbers. We get it already.
The real question is that if they're already releasing GPUs that are 3 times as powerful as consoles and consoles are almost always the baseline for major releases, what hardware are they going to be releasing 2-3 years down the line? I really don't think there's going to be much of a market for the highest end hardware at that point, and that's just gonna lower as the generation goes on.
Oh god, here we go again.
Let me pre-cap the thread:
- salty
- console optimization
- to the metal
- carmack
- overhead
- $3000 PCs
Did I miss anything?
All that graph says to me is:
Console: bought/relax for 6 - 10 years
PC: Upgrade/upgrade/upgrade/upgrade/upgrade ...
Where is Wii u
6-10 years? Again?
I bloody hope not
All that graph says to me is:
Console: bought/relax for 6 - 10 years
PC: Upgrade/upgrade/upgrade/upgrade/upgrade ...
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6-10 years? Again?
I bloody hope not
8GB GDDR5
but carmack said
but carmack said
choice. choice. choice.
Yeah.. the bottom of the chartz.Off the chartz.
Just to make that clear, in my first post in the thread I don't mean to imply that Carmack is wrong. However:but carmack said
I have rent to pay. This $1000 GPU can go to hell.
I don't care about power. In fact, I would prefer if power was used solely for better AI, and the money that we've been using for gorgeous setpieces get put towards better soundtracks, stories, etc.
Anyways, I realize PC gaming has it's merits. I've got an okay gaming PC myself, although with next gen coming I need to upgrade my CPU and ditch the SLI 450s. However, there's some kind of... Atmosphere around playing console games. Especially older consoles that were just pop in the disc and go.
A $400 console being capable of 2/3 of what a $1000 GPU is capable of doing is amazing.Just to make that clear, in my first post in the thread I don't mean to imply that Carmack is wrong. However:
1) what he said has no bearing on what NV is doing here (comparing hardware capabilities)
2) even adding in the full "Carmack factor" (2x) -- which I think is rather high given the relative lack of architectural difference this time around -- a Titan is still more powerful.
But you know what I love about consoles now that I'm not 15 and have all the time in the world to troubleshoot shit? Just popping that fucker in and playing it. No modifying .dll's, no driver updates, no nothing. I got stupid grown up shit to do, so I want to do my childish hobby as fast and easy as possible.
All that graph says to me is:
Console: bought/relax for 6 - 10 years
All that graph says to me is:
Console: bought/relax for 6 - 10 years
PC: Upgrade/upgrade/upgrade/upgrade/upgrade ...
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Well they didn't include the RROD and dying PhatPS3s in it so one could come to that conclusion.